Bareback Riding in TJ?

[Goligoski]

Little Man ! like you I go for the big "boners", they are more amenable. I am daredevil only with selective chicas, as they tell me, they dont usually do it, except with me But seriously its a risky proposition and admittledly I am exaggerating, and I think so are those who claim on the board.........

 

[Annorax]

ruthless man... straight ruthless....

 

[Ashley:)]

Amigomio wrote:

What I do Amigomio is not let anyone try to make me feel guilty over what I written. That goes on on sex fourms quite a lot if somebody talks about Bareback sex; where it is sometimes treated as a taboo subject and the writer is beaten up over what he wrote about, although today this topic is a lot more tolerated today and even celebrated on other sex forums.

I take it everyone here is at least 18 years of age,and can make up their own mind on the kind of sex they want to engage in, and I imagine they already have their minds made up with the end of sex they are interested in? So I take no responsibility if somebody reads my posts and then wants to engage in risky sex behavior....it's their choice and their life, besides they could also read all the other posts that tell them always practice safe sex. And another thing, it's not always easy to get BBFS especially in the full service bars, most girls will just tell you no.

The fact is barebacking does go on it's a reality of the zona and the world. I'm not going to sugar coat anything for anybody or pretend it doesn't exist....I"m going to talk about it. If your in this hobby for at least a few years, your going to be offered BBFS from some girl at least once or you may request it.....that's just the reality of the situation.

 

[LionLove]

I am BB specialist so now I am "flying" the Craig List circuit, costs a little time and patience, hopefully it will be safer as these Greek,Italian,Irish whatever American are clean and I am not their 100th customer And hopefully I wont fall in love ! Heck I need to get back to the zona for a no nonsense f+++k

 

[Gaaaaaaaaaaz]

King of 4's the taxi thing would work like this, you tell him to bring the girls to your hotel room and pick which one you want and negoiate the matter before hand. you and him negoiate the prices and rules in detail while in the cab and let him know not to pull any tricks. you tell him its your way. believe me to him it all about the $$$.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

My apologies as I had hoped that the admonition would not have been taken as preaching and moralizing especially as I made fun of myself as a preacher and moralizer.

Yes, the truth is that condoms are not perfect. But they are the best protection we have. And you are correct that transmission of HIV from female to male during intercourse is far less risky than male to female. But are you aware that Hepatitis B is far more easier to transmit from female to male and that it can be just as deadly as HIV/AIDS? (There's a vaccine for Hep B, though. All mongers and chicas would do well to get it.) Plus, as AmigoMio pointed out, there are others to think about.

Please, this is not meant to be a public flogging. Your honesty was very much appreciated and the knowledge served to help our community. We must all take responsibility for our past potentially dangerous activities and resolve to protect ourselves and others in the future.

Respectfully submitted,

Boy Scout Gmbrldx
Trupo Numero 1039 de La Zona Norte
Tijuana, Mexico

 

[pasanun s]

Fireballs, does your "reptilian brain primitive brain" generate enough brain activity for you to realize that that way of thinking puts OTHERS in danger?
And by OTHERS I mean us, the rest of the mongers?

This is not just about yourself only... this mongering stuff might be individual traveling to and screwing girls all over TJ and mongers up to a point just don't consider fellow people as important cause that root of mongering is egoistic by itself if you read what is posted here.

But when you increase the risk to other mongers, that means it involves us too.

So please stop thinking that it only pertains to you.

 

[Slapstick]

Like I said before... the girls do favor a certain sector of the customers.
They ID you as one of their inner circle Sampson.

It's like me.
The girls know me as a good regular customer. Some of them have tried to grab my attention by offering to do it BB.
They want to put me within their inner circle of cutomers and friends, but no thank you.

 

[ScreamEmoGirl!]

Bareback happens with damn near every provider in TJ....sometimes not on the first time, but I have a group of friends that never use condoms and they bang lots of chicas......I do bareback often, but I don't go ask a chica to go up....I get to know them and fuck them away from work. I don't fuck that many....I think I have had 8 in the last year....from all kinds of clubs(all puta clubs) but not all AB chicas...

 

[Posleen Killer]

Thanks LoneWolf11, and thanks to all you others who came up with some serious and useful replies! The taxi driver idea is a good one--except that I am not at all sure I should trust those dudes?! What do you think? I'm not sure that is such a wise idea in Mexico, where they could take you anywhere and possibly shake you down, no? (Hey, just because I don't worry about being struck by lightning, that doesn't mean that I don't have a strong sense of self preservation!

And, oh, yes of course I test frequently, and yes, of course I have had the HEP B vaccine (HEP A, too!) Anyone would be foolish to monger without those, bareback lor otherwise!

As for you guys that would like the pics of my Hong Kong girls--please PM me and we can trade intel! Those pics and my info are ONLY for those who are serious about seeking BBFS, however--so please don't PM me unless you have some specific names/locations that YOU are willing to share!

And yes, I do realize that the girls come and go, but I still think that it may be possible to find them if he time frame is recent!

As for the street girls--I have "interviewed" many of those on past trips (the young hot-looking ones, NOT the worn-out old dogs!) and I got very honest replies from most: most were not even willing to tongue-kiss, let alone fuck bareback! (I ALWAYS pre-negotiate!) And on the last trip to TJ, I did "interview" quite a few in Adelitas and in many of the smaller bars, but again, none were willing to fuck bareback. The three who I did find were all in Hong Kong. One was a fiery little bleached blonde, whose pussy I'd licked right on seforum.xxxe! I had to show her test papers during pre-negotiations, but she agreed to cum-in-pussy for 80. She turned out to be so good, I took her two nights in a row! The other was a nice, long dark-haired big natural-boobed MILF who quoted me 100 and was another fabulous bareback fuck, again CIP. So I had her recruit a friend (another fine big-boobed MILF) for a threesome the next night! (Two cunts to bareback are ALWAYS better than one, no?!) I fucked the both bareback, switching back and forth in and out of each, without clean-up! But I only came inside the first one again, as the second requested pullout because she was "fertile".

So, because I had been so successful at Hong Kong, but nowhere else, I figured that was because there is so much competition in there, compared to the other big two, and the smaller bars? I don't know. What are your thoughts on that, dudes? Have you guys also found the Hong Kiong girls to be a bit lower priced--as well as more "liberal"?

 

[schticklick]

Gmbrldx is of course welcome to his opinion, and if he wants to practice safe sex all the time, that's great for him, but I guess he is taking a great risk too, because there are a few STDS and even potentially life threatening diseases you could catch as condoms don't offer complete protection from, and condoms could bust, yet I bet he can't wait to fuck his next hooker?

I'm well aware of the risks of sin-condom sex. I never said I did it all the time, and in the case I outlined above, I believe is a lot less risky than say picking up a civilian coed in a bar in a major city in the US like San Diego, since this girl just started in the business and I'm pretty good at determining if she is bullshitting or not.

The only major STD that I truly fear is HIV/AIDS and it's highly unlikely I'm going to catch it from her, as her risks are a lot greater, including getting pregnant. I'm in Tijuana, if I even feel I made a mistake, I'll take a full course of DOXYCIN that would take care of most easy to treat STDs, and if I have any symptoms at all I'd go to the doctor too.

BTW this report was a ' that's how it is' trip report, and how I let my 'reptilian brain' and animal urges dictate by behavior that night, as I'm not usually that way, but I'm sure there will come a time in the future I find a little hot chica just off the bus, and want to do the same thing, as I sometimes can't control myself.

So Gmbrldx if you want to get up on your soap box and preach and moralize, go do it to someone else. I'm well aware of the dangers of sin-condom sex, but my reptilian brain primitive brain that wants sex as it's suppose to be practiced....won't be listening to you.....as nobody tells that part of me what to do.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I think a lot of mongers here would admit going bareback with a woman, whether a whore in TJ or a stranger at a night club or wherever, in their life time. I admit that I've done it in TJ a few times having caught in the heat of the moment. Surprisingly, I've met quite of few chicas in TJ who would willingly offer bareback, for a fee of course. Also, if you are a regular for the chica, there is a great chance that she will allow you to go bareback.

I know there are many mongers who are thrill seekers and having the thrill of going BB outweighs the dangers of getting nasty stuff for them. But remember what they say. When you are having sex with a woman, you are having sex with all of her previous partners - women, men, maybe a horse ??

Well, one thing is that, at least the chicas in TJ are required to carry medical card and get checkups periodically by law even though I am not sure how well that medical screening stuff really works.

 

[tessahcamille]

Wasn't this written by MasterMonger on the site? I know I'm not going to be popular for taking a moral stance but it is clear from your writing that you understand that this behavior is downright dangerous. You know it is unsafe and if you don't care about the well-being of your own body, please at least give some consideration to the chicas. Also, the "pre-cum" as you called it still contains 50,000 to 100,000 sperm so you may be a father again for all we know.

Respectfully submitted,

Father Gmbrldx
Monsignor, Abbey de la Zona
Tijuana, Mexico

 

[Catwomen]

I wouldn't want to join a club that would have me as a member!

If she'll let you BB, she's let 100's of other bareback. Even if you don't get aids, tell me you'd like to have Herpes for the rest of your life.

 

[NeedASurgery]

Oh man I love it when those types of oportunities come around. I did a stripper in the VIP at Extasy in san Diego a few years back the same say. we went the the VIP, and t was really dark so I just dropped my pants, then the girl's doing her lap dances and, "Hey what the fuck is this?" Long story shorts, I got a BBBJ from her and blew the knut all over her tonsils. It was so good I came back the next week and took her to the VIP, and this time I was going to have her. We quickly moved to the BBBJ, but I was holding back. I gave her a little DATY and got her off so quickly she was going to do my bidding. After she came we got into a game of just the head, where she was telling me, "You can't stick that in me", to which I replied, "Don't worry it will fit" as I shoved it in her. then she tells me "OK but don't cum in me", heh heh too late baby! After which told me I was a bad boy (And yes this is what women want and nice guys always finish last) I'll be making my pilgramige to TJ in a few weeks, and plan on doing some damage to the local putas!

 

[Lynnmarie]

Many ho's in Mexico feel safe doing BBs with American and/or other foreign mongers cause they foolishly think that they are cleaner than their Mexican counterpart customers.
Boy can they be wrong.
Of course once the girls realize that these same mongers are all over the map BBing other girls in different parts of the world... that really makes them change their mind.

The other side of the coin.
All of you guys come to Mexico for you one day adventures in Mexico, screw a couple of girls, enjoy a couple of pops
Good for you.
You guys that BB girls ever use your brain neurons in thinking that you are the only ones this girls do it without condom?
Have you ever looked around the places you go to, the people the girls talk to, mess with, screw around with?

The girls you do, get screw by the following: boyfriends, waiters, barkers, security guards, managers and owners.
And believe me, they don't use condoms.
Let me tell you that one of my most horrible moments at one of the local clubs I go to was when I saw that one of the best girls of the place was grilfriend to the poor sap that sells flowers, gum and peanuts around the club area.

You guys have to face the truth that the girls are trash and they mess with trash.

And they think that mongers are clean.

What a mess.

Believe me I have not done a ho without a condom since the late 80's

 

[Costin]

The sad truth is that many of the chicas can be persuaded to go bare back -- for the right price. I have never tried to negotiate bare back downstairs so I don't know how successful or unsuccessful you will be trying that strategy. But on a few occasions, during the session, I used my horrible Spanish to try to communicate that I wanted to finish "Italian" (between the buns, sin condom). At least three different chicas (2 BGs, 1 SG) misinterpreted me and were willing -- for an upsell -- to allow bare back. The typical response was something like, "Me clean, you clean, si? $40 mas, si?" (Once I finally got them to understand what I wanted, they were okay with it and didn't charge extra except for one chica who thought it was dangerous. I unsuccessfully tried to get her to understand that it was actually safer than relying on the condom so, oh, well!, it was terminar interior con condom for her.)

You seem to wear the "slamming & flaming" badge of honor proudly so any pleas for a saner course of action will probably only make you more set of your current strategy. But at the very least, please get yourself tested at least every couple of months when you are actively bare backing. That way, when you get an STD, at least you can take whatever measures are available to remedy or mitigate the situation. Have you gotten the Hep B vaccine? Hep B can be just as deadly as HIV and is easier to catch as a guy than HIV.

In any event, we should at least thank you for reminding us that there are mongers out there who are infecting the chicas (and vice versa) with reckless actions. It should keep the rest of us resolved to get that stupid piece of latex on and keep it on -- no matter how many drinks we've had and how damned good it feels.

Here is a useful web site for you:
http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

 

[hamster]

After I am done with a session, the first thing that I do is put back on my S/S Submariner. It is not only an expensive watch, but one that is also very sentimental to me. I am sure that these girls are a little offended by my behavior(after all, who takes a shower with their watch on?), but I really don't give a sh_t what they think.

All I give a sh_t about is my watch.

 

[Debunkatron]

I know I won't slammed and flame King of 4s for wanting to engage in the deadly act, or rather the unhealthy act of BBBF as quite a few guys are after or willing to engage in such debauchery and I myself had a moment or two of weakness and engaged in said behavior, although I try to make it a point and goal to remain covered up.

Sadly there is rumored to be a list started my others of providers who engage in bare back sex, but it was under the guise of providing that list to in order to stay away from those chicas -RIGHT?

But even if such list exist or that I have a copy of it.....it wouldn't really do any good as chica quit working, move to other locations, change names, or will have the day off when you come looking or will be with something else.

I would even say that some bars are better than others to get BBFS from, and it also depends on the time of day or night, but really everything is relative it depends on how nasty the girl is.....is she drug or money motivated? And it depends on the guy, how badly does he want it in the raw, how experienced he is, and what does he have to offer to get it?

Personally I just don't name names of such behavior nor cite bars because even if I did you might not get that same service and the same goes if you recommend someone to me,as a lot of it demands on how she feels towards you, with her asking the question, " is he clean?" as if someone they can just look at you and figure it out.

Questions of this nature are usually best handled via PM by guys you know.

 

[Olivia]

Since we are on the subject of barebacking I thought I'd share a trip report that I wrote on another forum a little over a year ago where my identity wasn't known at the time. It's a true story basically, yeah I had to throw it that part of my having that rock hard thick dick, but that's just to make the story sound better, and I changed my name to Fireballs in this report. At the time many people called bullshit on the story, or thought I was absolutely nuts. While I'm a little nuts, and really the story wasn't about it true to not, but rather the 'technique' I used to get what I wanted. I didn't want to give the bars names because some bars are more loose than others, and really I practice safe sex most of the time, but man I got to tell you, if I see a fresh young 18 years old just off the bus I'll go crazy sometimes, and these young things waving around a condom are no match for older experienced mongers who know what they want. Sometimes I'm really ashamed of my behavior, but what can I do I'm a monger?

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I was visiting 'Bareback Bar' when I spotted her sitting on the bench with other young putas waiting for someone to pick her or maybe not pick her? She was very CUTE, looked about 18 years old with long flowing hair with big eyes looking down towards the ground. I tried to get her ATTENTION but she just looked away, and only once gave me a shy smile. I quickly called my favorite Masero over and asked him about the young beauty. He said Fireballs, she is new only been working two days 'your type' Fireballs, I think you will be her first? [ the fucker always lies to me] you want me to bring her over? Yes call her over. She walks over, Oh MAN is she Gorgeous she is about 5'2 and 100 pounds with nice small perky tits, you could see you nipples showing through her thin tops showing off her tits, she also had a tight skirt showing her small ASS, and long lean legs.

I asked her name and she said Eve{ not her real name} she said she was from Chihuahua Mexico, and was 18 with no kids. We engaged in small talk over the next 4 drinks as I wanted her a little drunk for what I had PLANNED. I would also test her a little bit to get a feel of things to COME, like playing with her tits and sticking my hand under her dress and even inside her panties FEELING her pussy. She didn't STOP me , which was a good sign; but she was a little uncomfortable - in fact she seemed a little uncomfortable over the whole EXPERIENCE. It didn't matter I made up my mind she was going to be MIND and I was going to FUCK HER SIN-CONDOM, but I could not help to think maybe I made a MISTAKE, that she was maybe too GREEN? I told her lets go UPSTAIRS, she ASKED how much I was going to pay her? I asked how much does she want, to check her experience in these things; she said she wanted $80? I said how about $60 and she said OK.

Upstairs she quickly takes a piss on the toilet with the door open, always a TURN-ON for me. She lays the condom on the BED and asked if I want the lights on or off, and I say ON. She starts to kiss me on the lips so sensitively while looking into my EYES, WOW I said to myself, she is going to be GOOD! We quickly undressed and kiss some more, this time I stick my TONGUE down her throat and she wraps her tongue around mind. We engage in just DFK kissing for 5 to 10 minutes with me playing and also sucking her tits, and her stroking my now ROCK HARD COCK. I asked her if she could SUCK ME in Spanish, but she said only if she puts on the condom on me? I said I don't like condoms, but she said I would have to put it on. I said how about if I KISS you down there pointing to her pussy? She didn't say anything so I just pulled her legs apart and pushed her down on the bed and moved slowly towards her cunt. She didn't have any odor at all, she was so FRESH so I engaged her in DATY for the next 10 minutes I also put my fingers in her pussy while she MOANED and started moving her pussy so my tongue finds the right position on her clit. I didn't stop because I wanted her to CUM. Finally her moans get LOUDER and I could feel the contractions of her PUSSY as she starts to cum. I quickly stopped DATY and jumped on top of her and just stuck my THICK HARD COCK in her PUSSY while she lays seemly paralyzed while I FUCK AWAY for the next minute or two. OH it felt so good without a condom. Suddenly she says Oh NO! Condom! Condom! I tell her again I don't like condoms. She says AGAIN No Condom!! I say OK, while still pumping away. I say how about if I give you 'mas dinero' while I'm still FUCKING HER, and you can tell she is enjoying it, and really doesn't want to stop me. She asked how much? Alright - that's music to my ears asking me 'how much?' I say $20 dollars! Then she asked if I'm clean and if I'm not SICK in Spanish?[ they always ask that?] I say OH Si, I'm clean and I don't do this much. She said ok, then, but you have to promise to cum outside of me because I'm not on anything OK? I said OK, I'll come on your stomach thinking I'm going to try to cum on her FACE.

OH FUCK it felt so GOOD FUCKING Eve's tight wet PUSSY, and I know my pre-cum was just streaming out of me, because I'm sure my body adapted to this kind of FUCKING of not cuming inside these young providers. I turned Eve around and FUCKED her doggie, and once again promised I'd cum outside of her. OH SHIT, it felt even better fucking her doggie sin-condom. I could not take it for very long. I told her to turn around because I was about the cum. I grabbed her and told her I wanted to cum on her body, but when I came I AIMED for her face and when I EXPLODED I came a little on her chin, but she quickly moved her face away so I got to shoot her tits.

We then quickly fell to the bed exhausted and just laid their holding each other before the FUCKING Knock came on the door. We got up and took a shower together. We then got dressed and I kissed her goodbye and told her I want to see her again.

Usually after FUCKING a provider like this I feel guilty and a little scared. I'll even go so far and go to the pharmacy and get antibiotics just in case, but this time I didn't even do that. You just know it was her first time Bareback in Tijuana, and she was so BEAUTIFUL. { her name will remain anonymous for her protection, and to make mongers do their own work. I normally don't give sin-condom REPORTS, but what the HELL]
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