wizdomescorts

[May flower]

Yeah I understand "Wisdom" is going to have a real orgy bash, strip show, and private rooms available for about $25 dollars to take a escort to!

Sounds like lots of fun, but I won't be there as I'm rarely in TJ on weekends, besides I'm pissed because the last time I called "Wisdom" they left me high and dry and didn't pick me up even after I confirmed with them I'd be my MC'D within a 1/2 hour.

Maybe if I stood around and waited an hour like Mepeter's they might have eventually showed up, and maybe if Wisdom had the only girls in town I would have waited, but they don't and pussy is all over the zona working in bars, and other escort services.

I don't wait, or even call asking what's the hold up, I just left and went to the zona after 20 minutes. It's bad enough I even waited that long.

 

[Sal B]

Please tell the story....A PLM STORY as a cautionary tale to everyone! PS is Perla ever coming back? As for Don, his sight is up but I don't know if he has paid back his debt yet or not. Personally I have called him but no one picks up the phone at their place...Sam is a nice guy, his stable is small but friendly looking line up.

I really don't know Don very well, but he just doesn't seem like a guy that would go through all the troubles of making up stories, unless business was really slow...

 

[MorRissa]

I don't believe the person writing about Dayanne is the same guy writing about Sam. I know who is writing about Dayanne and he tried to marry her. It is a real long story, and we told him it was not real and he dumped tons of money into trying to marry her. She played him for a fool and won big....and again we warned the guy, but he had blinders on.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Sampson wrote:

It could be lots of reasons? The number one reason would be Wizdom was hosting on a non adult host, and the host pulled the plug on the website.( but if going to be the same website, then that won't be a reason either)

I know Burt likes to say maybe they didn't pay their bill, and that's a reason too, but probably unlikely as websites don't cost too much.

Perhaps Don just took a break while he was re-stocking on talent?

Well lets just hope they get a good website going, but in the mean time their phones are working.

I don't know why I see so many posts saying " but I emailed the guy." I notice most "providers" on Craig's List don't even answer emails. People who email aren't always serious. IF you want to do business 'call on the phone."

 

[eyedea]

Burner what a your relationship with "Wizdom Escorts" Non paid promoter? You see a lot of that with escort agencies, but if you ask me pussy is pussy and there is no reason to get excited about a certain agency, now the girls are a different story.

Yes there are ethics involved in the prostitution business, and most businesses for that matter. I just think it's wrong to go behind an agencies back and work out a deal with the girl who the agency just sent you.

I know Sampson and have been on prostitution boards with him for years, so I just won't do that. However, if anybody is scamming the girls I'd try to screw the agency too, and I'm sure the agency girls would have no problems doing that if they are getting the short end of the stick?

I'm real interested is seeing how much the "Wizdom Escort " girls get and I'm sure I'll be finding out very soon?

 

[Pompal 09.]

Why is that so ridiculous? Wizdom's and Sam's pricing and model are almost exactly the same. Even their location is the same. The difference is Sam never left anyone standing at the border. You had to get yourself to his place in Las Playas de Tijuana. (I used the past tense because he no longer offers in-call at his location in Las Playas.) If Don were to restart Wizdom, would not Exotic Connections be his primary competitor?


"Sipped the 'Kool-aide'," indeed!? With all due disrespect, Fireballs, you are the one who has exhibited the most flagrant flights of fancy with respect to your countless speculations about others with regard to virtually all subject matters, from mongering to racism to murder to immigration. You say you have some dirt on Sam that may change our opinions about the situation but will not divulge said information. Well, bully for you! That does not help any of us one bit. On the surface, it sure looks as though Sam and his chicas are the victims of a "poison pen" campaign that seems to be hurting their business.

By the way, the stooge (as you so rudely refer to him) made a darned good argument, if you ask me. So what if the stooge were Sam? This is not likely since why would the stooge use S.A.M. (short for Secret Asian Man) as his handle since it so clearly resembles the handle Sam? The supreme "hide-in-plain-site" deception? I think not.

Look, if I have offended anyone, I apologize. But the fact remains that there is at least one person who is using cruel techniques to besmirch a pretty good -- and pretty cheap -- mongering agency. We as a mongering community need to chip in and help in any way we can. Exotic Connections is a welcome addition to our escort choices in TJ. Flagging these posts does not seem to work. Why not? I wish I knew. As I said, I sent Craigslist a message but never heard anything back.

Personally, I would hate to see Exotic Connections disappear. I have not written a trip report about my single experience with Lolita of Exotic Connections but, all in all, it was a great session for just a little more than the typical full-service only session with a sexytijuana chica. I want to try Vanessa next. (On the other hand, my one experience with Wizdom was not a disaster -- the session was actually pretty good -- but I could tell at the time that this guy and his business practices were not going to survive for long. I never went back.) I have not gotten around to writing a trip report because I have been more involved with trying to stop these attacks.

It is my conviction that we mongers need to come together and do whatever we can to help. If this person succeeds in shutting down Exotic Connections, who will be next? LiveLatinAngels? AdultBaja? MexicoLindoBar? CumInTJ? HotTijuana? (Oh, no! Not my beloved Tania! He simply can't do this to my diva, La Famosa!) He has already attacked one of Sampson's chicas, by the way.

Maybe I should just give up and ignore the ignoramus on Craigslist. But if Exotic Connections does go under because of this guy, the TJ mongering community will have lost a good agency. Hopefully, Lolita and the other chicas will be able to get work at another agency. Hey, Sampson or NOB, you have any thought or comments on what is going on?

 

[buzymom72]

well as i said, i was there friday and it might be my last trip to don's. i wanted 1 of the new girls, but when he picked me up he said that she wasn't available, so he set me up with 1 i had been with. she was o.k. but when i spend my money i want what i want, and i wanted NEW. i hope things work out for him, it's his b-day today, so i hope the party is great. maybe it will get him some more customers, and then he can get some NEW girls.

cheers

 

[lostinsidemyself]

Apparently the worry was for nothing. Wizdom has put their site back up and are posting ads on CL. I will be there soon.

 

[Happened2me]

give me a break, it's WRONG to cut out a nice pimp but if he/she is taking more of the whores money than YOU think is fair then it's ok. so now it's ethics 101, amazing i learn something new every day. personality i'm a dick, if you're a whore and you want to give your hard earned money away that's YOUR bad, i'm not going to feel bad 4 u.

 

[iGo Hard!]

Yeah It's pretty ridiculous to believe that Don of "Wizdom escorts" fame is the one who is trolling Sam of E-Connections.

But there is this "stooge" promoting that theory to guys around the Internet and probably Gmbrldx among others has sipped the 'Kool-aide" of this theory being pushed.

Supposedly the grammar mistakes are unmistakable, and both Don and the troll use bad grammar, and run on sentences, according to who claims he grades students papers all the time. One thing I do agree with him about is the "comma" after a word a "comma" is often posted instead of a period, and a space is skipped like this , ( notice the skip?) There is no other evidence except the handwriting I believe.

However look at the Craigslist troll ad below. Notice how you get the "comma skip" and other similarities to Don's writing. Somebody would have to be crazy to believe Don wrote this ad below that also attacks him a few months ago.

The other similarities the "stooge" claims is evidence is very common with bad grammar writers including the "small case" writing. Believe it or not, but there are a few writers who have an aversion to periods and use commas instead. For example Riqqy and Otis did this a lot, but they didn't have the comma skip.

Another way out theory is the troll is trying to write like Don to make somebody believe it's Don?

One interesting thing I came up with is I have sent the troll a few emails, and I got him to answer me once! The shocker is he used a email from Tijuana according to the ISP that's very similar to another popular escort company in TJ and I almost fell for it. I checked with the real escort agency the troll was pretending to be , and verified it wasn't from them, and that escort agency was upset that somebody would try to pose as them and knock and bash other escort agencies.

I'll come back and write more about this and look at the connection of Sam of E-Connections and the "stooge." I think Sam actually did the investigation and the "stooge" pushed it on the internet.

If you know who Sam really is then you'd know him jumping to a conclusion without clear facts is something he is prone to do without hesitation.

Oh the Craigslist troll on the no faces actually is a pretty good writer grammar wise and uses proper punctuation. So I definitely don't believe it's Don too who is doing that.

 

[d_r_siva]

I saw a report that says that Wizdom was open last night and that their site is being re-worked. Wonder why they had to take it down to do that?

 

[Pompal 09.]

This is pure speculation:

1) His wife was expecting....so he could have chose to take some down time as this job is tiring with long hours...and probably more so for him having to manage that house as well.

2) If they got raided again, maybe they lost their electronics again, since there has been no recent ads on craigslist.

3) Could be that he needs to re-load with chicas as there seems to be a retention problem over there

 

[Amerikan Pirat]

i was there on friday, don said that the web site was down because he was making some changes, what ever it's up now. i've never received an online response from don, it's best use the phone. when i'm 30 min from the border i call and tell him i'm at mc.d's, i still end up waiting on average 10 min. but for 50, oh yea excuse me, now it's 60, what do you expect.

cheers

 

[ASAD]

yea pete, i would have to agree with you, at least they are inside. i've also NEVER paid first at don's, but in all fairness that is standard operating procedure when dealing with whores. as far transportation goes i've never paid, cab or otherwise. maybe it's because i'm black, wow an advaneforum.xxxe for being black, there's something new.LOL.

cheers

 

[TSK]

PO
Why would he start a rumor he was murdered in front of his wife and child? That doesn't make sense. I hope it isn't true. I have been wondering if WE was ever going go reopen. They have had the same partially complete website up for months. I would not be surprised if this represents the end of Wisdom instead way or the other.

 

[Kathy C]

if they want to make a date with me outside of work for LESS money sure, but why would any sane monger want to pay MORE? i guess old FB still thinks i work 4 wizdom, whatever. as far as i'm concerned i want the most bang 4 my buck, if i can get that off the books, so be it. honestly my preference is off the books, but all girls aren't go getters, they need someone to handle things 4 them, thats were the pimp/agency comes in. if whoring is the worlds oldest profession, pimping came second.

 

[Stirfry0]

So noted. I didn't use the web site. I just sent an e-mail to the e-mail address on the home page. Never got a response.



We shall see. The next time I try to hook up it will be via the phone. As you note, that will be for a more spontaneous session. It is obvious that trying to plan in advance with Don is not fruitful.

 

[Shep]

Burner wrote: a

If you believe that then "Wizdom" escort girls should be working behind their agencies back and making deals with the customers for more money.

I see some supposedly deal from "Wizdom escorts" in the $50 dollar range, and if the agency is talking half, and you know they are, that means the girls aren't getting paid shit. These girls are getting paid less than SGs and are suppose to be promising GFE service. I call that BULLSHIT!

It's wrong to go behind a agencies back when there is a win win situation, where the agency, escort and customer are all getting good deals. But if a girl is getting fucked, and I'm talking about more ways then one. Then I see no reason why you shouldn't go behind the agencies back.

 

[Sly]

Good advice, Fireballs. And, thanks for the valuable input, Sampsonrico.

 

[NewsReader]

Burt, agencies are there for customers that do not know how things work and prefer to get their girls from one single source, just to make it easy for them.

Many of them just don't want to strut the streets looking for SW or BGs, they want the girls tending them, not the other way around, wasting time walking or buying drinks at a club.
They don't have the time, they want the girl delivered to the hotel room door, they can't be seen on the streets, they don't want to be hasseled by police...
And they think that an agency will give them the best but as we all know, many girls double as BGs an element some customers think they are getting away from.

There are many elements, many factors involved here, more than those I have mentioned.

Good for those guys, and am sure they'll keep on going for agencies as long as they are happy with the service.

But then again, there are those of us that seldom will use the service of an agency cause we know our way around and we know how to try and beat the system that said agencies use.

We are not the kind of customers that the agencies look for, cause we cut around the corners.

We will not be missed by the agencies, and I don't think that 5 guys posting here will hurt their business, cause they have more than enough loyal customers to fullfill their agendas.