wizdomescorts

[The Taoist]

One of their clients posted about talking to him about it. I do believe that he did not give a straight answer as he said two of the suspects have been arrested. I don't believe he would call the police to report this type of robbery.....like a dope house calling the police when they were robbed.

I sent you more info by pm, for you to make your own conclusion.

 

[Cal]

Now I only came once, and she said basically, the time is up.

If I remember right it was $60 so it wasn't such a special price.

And also I never give tips to girls in the pay for play game. My only tip is, that if they're very good I definitely see them again.

I just went to wisdom again last night, Monday night.

Don picked me up right on time, but the problem was with no pictures on his website, makes it difficult to pick a girl. So I asked him if he had any good-looking girls that do great GFE and he said that he had three there to choose from.

This one girl, was an absolute stunner, number nine or 10, as near as you can get to perfection in Tijuana, this girl is not a girl that you would see in the Zona. So I took her, but 15 minutes into the session, everything had been going great so far, then I asked her to give me a blow job, and all of a sudden she insisted on a condom for the blow job. I said no way, this is supposed to be GFE session, no condom required for a blow job. So I put back my shorts and shirt back on and she goes downstairs, and tells Don that she does not do bareback blow jobs. Apparently this is a very new girl, and she agreed during the interview to do bareback blow jobs, but apparently she's very choosy about who she gives a bareback blow job to.

I think most guys would have stayed with this girl anyways, because she's an absolute beauty. But I demand beauty plus service.

Anyways there was another girl downstairs, definitely not as great-looking as this other girl, but after relaxing the little bit after the fiasco with that absolutely beautiful stunner, I took this girl up, and everything was great.

No problems whatsoever, great service, and I got my full 60 minutes.

 

[Matty boi]

I, too, have been following the current chaos and commotion regarding Wizdom Escorts on this and other TJ mongering sites. It is very odd indeed. Why would a two-year member who had never posted before finally post a review? It doesn't make any sense. Why now? After having a decent or maybe even a good experience with one of the chicas there, could someone at Wizdom Escorts possibly have asked him to post a review, something he had never felt he needed to do before now? What else would motivate someone in this situation? If some shill were going to post a bogus review, why would they wait two years?

It is very suspicious. To be truthful, their prices are tempting. I've thought of trying them out. But there is something about this service that gives me the serious creeps.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Thank you guys the marisol i am looking for is in her late twenties.

 

[corinthians]

Now I won't come here and call somebody a outright fraud, so instead I'll bring in posts that I find elsewhere and say it that way I won't hurt any feelings here.

Here is a post I found at another site from a first time poster, however this guy was a member for two years before making his first post, and the first post is about "Wisdom Escorts." I don't even have to discuss if this is a fake post or not. The fact is this post means nothing to most mongers, because it's coming from a unknown source, and I'm not the only one to believe posts from unknown posters could be fake, especially given the history of escort postings from agencies and it's fan.

The question to you does this post make you feel like going out there now and booking a session with Wisdom Escorts? Do you think this poster is just trying to bring new information to the forum, or does he have ulterior motives?
You decide?

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A first time post from another site:


:After being a member for some time now I finally decided to take the plunge for the first time. I went yesterday and met with Cynthia. She is very pretty and was a lot of fun. They told me to wait a McDonalds and I ended up waiting for 35 minutes before a cab came to pick me up. The house is in the Plays de Tijuana area. It is about a block from the beach. It was a nice house and as soon as I arrived they offered me a drink(beer or soda) while I waited for the girl. I had a great time and I would visit them again. It seemed like a great value in that the taxi and hotel fare was free. Cynthia was great and by the way since she lived in San Diego when she was little she speaks near perfect english. The transportation back to the border was as close as you could get. All in all a great time.

 

[Valeria1203]

Fireballs,

You always can see both sides. I believe you have made a couple of mistakes here.

Tania did work at AB and when she started her page, she was not $150, but did move up to match other agencies in 2005 I believe.

In her case, she can make a strong argument for the different price compared to AB. Her private apartment and ability to pick up at the border. A clean place and a quiet atmosphere has a lot of value to many, and with her she does not charge on top of that.

Before moving to Tijuana, I would meet my girlfriend at Plaza Rio outside of the Burger King when I came to visit. On those times that I walked I would always think, "How nice it would be to have her waiting by this gate for me." In a way it would be like saying, "I love you"...hell you see family members crowded around that gate all day long....Hell I have even been that guy, when my friend Maria comes to visit....

It was my vision that when you crossed your chica would be waiting for you as if you were her man and coming back from foreign war. It sounded good and it never worked exactly like I wanted it to. It did however work and it has taken off from there.

We provide something very different from the Zona Norte. There is some cross over in clients, but we both have our niche. Some guys like to drink and socialize, and I myself come under that category.

Some guys walk into AB and just grab a chica and go up...many of these guys are happy to find a service where at the very least they know what services are available, and don't want to wait their turn. You can schedule and have your chica ready at the time you agreed to.

 

[Chaosx_vaio]

Gmbrldx wrote:

Well I would say your making a bad comparison between an escort and Bar girls, and just about comparing the difference between them as being similar to the difference between a Mercedes-Benz/Lexus and Kia/Hyundai.

Many times and I see it happening more and more, is that you are getting the exact same thing, as many of these "bargirls" moonlight as "escorts" durign their down time.

The Marisol that we are talking about here in the thread could very well work in both "Tropical" and "Adult Baja."

Tanya who was one of the first escorts for years worked in "AB" charging $50 dollars for a half hour, and also escorts charging $150 dollars for a full hour. I bet the service was the same thing?( I don't know for sure, because I only had her as an escort once, not in the bar)

I think a better comparisons would be gasoline or cigarette where you are just about getting the same thing no matter what brand you smoke or where you fill up your tank. It's just all "marketing," making you believe you are getting a better product, because pussy is just pussy, and what's really important is the personality of the girl, not what agency she works for.

Although Sampson, NOB, and a few other tell the girls what services they must provide does seem to increase the overall satisfaction of the customers, it doesn't always work like that, and there is no such thing as a sure thing. She might hit all the numbers and do things that will make her employers and most customers happy, but she still might not satisfy "you' the customer because her mind and demeanor were some place else.

It's just too easy to slap a sticker on a girl, and then call her an "escort' and charge a lot of money. You could also slap a sticker on a piece of shit, and dress it up nice, and call it an "escort" but if it's a piece of shit, it's a piece of shit.....you can't change that.

It's all about marketing, and my hats off to the escort agency owners that can command those high prices.

Maybe my next post I'll talk about price structure and what I think about it.

 

[Davelle]

i don't know paco, so i can't comment on that, but just because someone places a review you don't agree with they are fake. Sorry i'll leave it to the pro's, if you want i'll remove the thread. burt, you seems like you are way to wrapped up in this shit, i had fun so i posted because i thought that's what this was for. sorry i guess i'm just not in the clique. i just take offence to you or anyone else implying that i'm fake or that my post is some clever advertisements, even samson didn't imply that, and i think he work for an escort service.

 

[Steve N]

Sampson wrote:

When did he acknowledge it? I haven't figured out his handle yet on these sites, although I have a couple of guesses?

I was there after the robbery was suppose to have taken place, and didn't even bother to ask him about it, as I doubt I would have received a honest answer?

If it was me I wouldn't say anything as many mongers are scaredy cats, and other escort agencies would use it against him.

 

[mebepat]

I saw that happen at MPs when MPs started offering packages.

My guess is the chicas at Wizdom aren't happy with their wages (and/or lack of tips) and consequently--like the MP chicas--they're cutting the session short.

It's also possible the chica was told to "speed up" the session. Wizdom has problems with double bookings and at times the line-up is "short." In such cases I can see management telling chicas to cut sessions short.

It's also something I've seen MPs do. Wizdom is really a brothel and in many ways it functions more like an MP than an escort agency. (A true escort agency doesn't have chicas on premises. MPs, like Wizdom, also offer out call services--although you don't read about it too much on the boards. All of this is why I say Wizdom is really a brothel, not that it matters much.)

 

[Pompal 09.]

fuck paco that deusch bag

 

[watercurves]

yea, I can tell the ones that are asking for tips from a mile away. these comments were in distinctly different contexts, one about wanting more of my business and the other about my view of her agency. And neither the chicas nor agencies seemed greedy. But somebody is not telling the truth.

 

[sunflower16]

Mepeter wrote:


Yes write a report or at least give us more details. That sounds strange the escort would cut the session short. Did you already cum once or twice or they she simple say 'times up?"

Could you have already popped a few times , and were just insisting on her being with you for the full hour because that's what you paid for?

Could also be you got the 'special' price and she thought she would get a tip like some of the other guys give, and figured out that with you that a tip might not be coming.

I'm not saying that's right, but I'm trying to figure out why she would cut the session short.

 

[irockj0rsockz]

Let's say it's suspect. Very suspect.

Fireballs is right. The only positive reviews I've encountered come from guys without a track record on any of the boards. Guys none of the vets have seen in the ZN, met at a fiesta, etc.

The vets I know have had nothing but problems with this agency. The word is they don't deliver GFE sessions as promised, they have tons of no-shows, they steal pictures, etc.

BTW, I'm a well known "escort monger." Anybody with experience on the major (free) TJ boards is likely to recognize my handle and confirm I'm "in the loop" regarding TJ escorts. I "try out" new agencies all the time (under a different handle). When I booked a session with Wisdom Escorts they never showed up. IMHO they're a rip-off agency.

 

[ann!belle]

I'm sorry to hear this. But I'm not surprised.


I do the same. It doesn't matter if the chica is an escort, bar girl, or street girl this is a prudent practice.

 

[BITE ME]

I've run into the problem of the greedy escort before. Sometimes these chicas have a mind of their own and cut not only their throats but that of the agency as well.

Example one: Sampsonrico takes nearly all of the money....now the idea is hoping the client gives a big tip. In reality I lost a client for 3 years that never did a date for less than $500....he is back now, but on his first date back he quizzed the chica(different chica) hard on the agency cut....and made her ask the driver how much she was suppose to pay.

Example two: I had a chica make 3k in one week and told a client she needs more work...result the guy is asking for discounts because he thinks our business is slow. Now the chica is asking why he does not want to pay the same price as before and where did he go?

Tania is doing well and is definitely not desperate.

 

[Panic25]

I don't know about that. I just took a girl from wisdom escorts last night, and at 45 minutes she says that's all .

The only reason why I know it was only 45 minutes, is that I'm not an escort guy, I'm a street girl guy. And whenever I go with a street girl, I always check my watch to see what time it is, and let her see me checking my watch, so I get my 20 minutes in and alot of times I get more time. I guess the one thing that I neglected to do at this escort agency is make sure that she saw me checking my watch. I hate arguing about time. But unfortunately too many guys don't make a fuss about this, so the girls can get away with this .

But if I'm paying for one hour, I want one hour.

It's late and I'm tired and I just came back from Tijuana, I'll write a detailed report on another day

 

[shedaisyluv]

i hope that you are not implying that my post is fake. i only have a few post because i'm new. i used his service and i wrote a review i thought that is what a forum is for. but as far as customer service i can say it could be much better. i tried calling all day sundy and no answer, and you might be waiting at mickey d's for awhile, but 4 the price i still think that it's a deal. and fireball i'm a delta fat drunk and stupid is how we roll.

 

[Babak Kratosbbm]

I agree at least to the extent that, if Tania drops her prices even to $100 an hour, she'd get some of my money.

And gmbrix, good buddy, customers have a god given right to complain about prices. Like a taxpayer's right to complain about taxes, it's all we can do to keep them from getting greedy or taking all our money. At the end of the day, we have no (real) choice.

I don't complain about the 911S porsche's latest price eforum.xxx of 96K because it is out of reach.

But I've spent many hours thinking about whether I can afford escort pussy at $150/hr. Indeed, I've paid it a few times.

And to be honest, Isela of CITJ was the only escort worth $150 (+ all the bullshit of Tijuana), a figure that as you know is almost 50% over a top tier bar girl.

On the other hand, I've paid for a dozen or so escorts in the last six months at the ~100 range. Tania (and her escorts) could have had 50% of that, if not more.

And I too am not convince that the escorts are as busy as one would think by the fact that agencies haven't dropped their prices. For one thing, they have in the form "specials" and "introductory" rates.

Secondly, I've been with a few so-called top tier escorts who also sounded desperate. Recently, when I told one that I had run out of leche, she became quite animated insisting that she would have gladly taken all the bar girl impulse business I had, if I had only called, "morning, noon, and night!"

And another one said she was only doing one client a week. And asked if she should switch agencies. I told that from my perspective, her agent was a pleasure to do business with but, of course, I'd rather pay less. So at that time, I was on the fence.

So my guess is that some of the agencies are propping up their prices for reasons I don't understand and don't agree with market forces.

The question is Are the pockets of the high priced agencies deep enough to ride it out?

 

[Gudgebobuniob]

I always take every opportunity to promote Tania's agency, as well as the other top-tier escort agencies in TJ. However, my apologies if I misconstrued AdamWolf's question. The thread, originally started about WizdomEscorts, had taken a tack toward hottijuana.net and mexicolindobar.com and I assumed AdamWolf was referring to the Marisol at hottijuana.net. Reading it over again, I can see that AdamWolf might have just been throwing out the question on this thread without any reference to the previous few posts.


I have never known Tania to be desperate. On the contrary, she has always come across to me as quite composed. It marvels me how she has stayed in this business for so long and has never become jaded or hardened. She is a remarkable woman. However, that is just my opinion. Please feel free to pay it no mind.



As far as I am concerned, there can never be too much competition. Viva la competition! May it produce a thousand escorts, all earning enough to satisfy their needs and desires while creating a large spectrum of prices, one just right for each of us mongers.

Personally, I abhor (and try to keep my mouth shut about) the constant drumbeat of many mongers who can not do anything other than complain long and loud about the higher-priced, top-tier agencies. It is both comical and painful to listen to and, at its heart, the very essence of the argument between free-market capitalists and socialist/communist centralized-market proponents.

Do these same mongers run down to their local Mercedes-Benz or Lexus dealerships and say, "Look how much Kia and Hyundai are charging for their cars! When are you going to drop your prices?! You can't keep charging what you are currently charging! You have to drop your prices!" Yet that is what they are essentially doing. If the top-tier agencies can not compete at the prices they are charging, they will be the ones to decide to drop their prices. This is what makes a marketplace. The more choices, the better for everyone.


I agree with you here. The main caveat is whether or not we are discussing the same Marisol. Plus many mongers, for whatever reasons, simply do not want to patronize the bars. And again, my apologies if I misconstrued AdamWolf's question. However, personally, I have not had much success in Bar Tropical. From what I have read, you need to get in good with the so-called "BT Mafia" to get good service. And even though I have checked many times, I have never, ever seen Jocelyn (from MexicoLindoBar) in there, despite all the reports from mongers.


The crux of mongering in La Zona! As always, good luck and happy hunting, my fellow mongers!