Tips to Adelitas

[aspirit]

As an escort agency owner, it is my responsibility to work for both sides. That is not to say I know everything that goes on, but with the information I have I try to be fair.

A few years ago, I had a lawyer, briefly mention to me, that he was going to loan one of my chicas $1000 and take it out in trade. I just told him that I cannot be responsible if she quits or dissapears. He decided not to loan her the money. If she needed $1000, she made that most every week anyway. This chica didn't last long with me. The client still visist in 2007.

 

[lightmn]

I'd like to know where your getting your statistics. We all know these sort of games are common with bar and MP girls, but I can only think of one case (Tita) where an escort played this sort of game. (And she got fired.)

I've done a lot of sessions over many years with bar girls, MP chias, and escorts. I've never had an escort play that sort of game with me. But I've had chicas in bars and MPs try to play it many, many times.

 

[Selliah]

Some people don't understand why a Lexus cost more than a Camry. Once again, I don't think there is a right or wrong way to monger. Just satisfied and unsatisfied mongers. (Some mongers require more than a SG to satisfy them--and I don't see why others should complain about how they spend their money.)

 

[Kairi]

When a gentleman eats at a taco cart it's OK for him to use his fingers. But I wouldn't call a man who eats with his fingers at the Grand Bistro a gentleman. In like manner a gentleman behaves differently with an escort than he does with a SG/BG.

Negotiating the price of a session is standard practice with SGs and BGs, but not with escorts. Escorts post their prices on their websites and that's what a gentleman pays. “Haggling” over price with escorts is a sign of “bad manners.” (Just like it's "bad manners" for an escort to try to upsell or rush a session--which are things BGs and SGs do all the time.)

Seeing escorts is all about having a "girlfriend experience." At the end of a session I always pay before being asked for payment; I've never even had an escort count the money in my presence. If mongers start "playing games" like paying in pesos instead of dollars many things will change and the "escort experience" will cease to be a "girlfriend experience."

 

[sknmysanity]

Regarding price, I've been paying no more than 50 for a long time, as in past 8 yrs or so, getting 40 was not uncommon. All of a sudden in the past year it seem, I get girls that want 60, and won't take 50. I'm saying WTF is with this all of a sudden??? I still stick to 50, and walk away if they don't take it. If this price keeps going up, I stop making the drive down from LA. Plenty of AMPs around. I also stopped asking them for the price, and instead tell them the price first. I set the start of any negotiations, not them. Suggest all do the same.

 

[baymast13]

When a lady is willing to rent her body, she can make her own price. It doesn't matter what a factory worker or a construction worker earns in her country. If she wanted to make factory wages, then I would guess she would choose to work in a factory.

When a lady decides to sell her favors it is to earn much more than what other professions pay. Certainly as a client you make your own decisions about price you are willing to pay vs perceived value. To look at what an average worker makes in her country and say she should not be able to charge more than one weeks salary in one hour....just is a very weak arguement.

 

[prince charming]

Am sorry to tell you but prices are going up all around you (outside TJ).
The girls are trying to hike prices up cause they know elsewhere (Cabos, Mazatlan, Los Mochis) prices are on the price range of 150-300 dlls.
Yes, I know the girls are not worth the price, I know they should be charging you nothing above 60 dlls, but at the same time that scares any new talent from going to TJ looking for work, so you get stuck with same old girls trying to raise the ante.
As a matter of fact that is one reason you won't be finding any Salma Hayek look alike around. For that you have to go to Cabos.

 

[Pompal 09.]

First of all a chica would have to be a Selma Heyak knock off in order for me to even consider paying more than sixty dollars, and second I know better than to spend all of my hard earned money on one chica.(I like to plant my seed when I am in town) I talk to several girls before I make my choice for the sole reason that I need to know the standard charge for the night. (Have you ever went with one chica, return to the bar and find out there was a prettier one than the one you took to the room and your broke and can't solicite her for service).
A group of guys I for got to mention down below are the desperados. They see a pretty chica and they pay every thing the chica wants without nogociating, only to find out later that they were over charged. Remember the chica are business women, They don't care what you look like, and who you are. If your bill fold is empty you are scum of the earth.
Remember guys we set the price not the chicas. If more guys refuse to pay 80.00, the chica will go down in price.

 

[Brown Eyes]

Burt wrote:

Most women play games, even if it's an escort who gets instructions how to conduct themselves with clients from agencies. After all they are working as an independent contractor usually for a few months at best. There are some well known cases on the internet where certain escorts extracted money, lots of money from agency clients claiming their mother or child desperately needs an operation and if they could only borrow at few thousand dollars, everything will be OK. Now if a guy wants to play the chump that's on him, I'm just pointing out scams like that go on all the time, and if it's going to happen it's more likely to happen with escorts who play the high end game. And I would bet my bottom dollar the escorts are taught how to extend sessions with clients by asking them and using gentle techniques to get them to say yes for an extra hour or two, as $450 is better than just $150 dollars.

Now I agree that mongers should always be gentleman but some of these providers have no problem accepting the exchange rate at 10 to 1 as it makes for a nice round number. Now personally I don't do it, unless it's with an SG, and besides I usually just use dollars, and I have spoken out against it before saying if the chica objects you should make the situation right.

But Burt I have never heard you speak out again shorting BG, or SGs on the exchange rates when it's common practice on the boards to do all the time and report they do it. You never told anybody to be a gentlemen about it, till I mentioned trying to pay an over paid escort 1500 pesos instead of $150 dollars. $132 dollars is still equal to about two weeks pay in Mexico for somebody working 80 hours or more. Most working Mexicans would be outraged to hear some Mexican escort is upset about being paid only $132 dollars for one hour of work, when she expected the full $150 dollars.

BTW this is one of the reasons why I usually balk at paying any Mexican provider more than $100 a session. I say to myself who do they think they are to command such a high fee, when the average weekly paycheck in Mexico is so low?

 

[Buck]

If I had to answer the question, "What does a session cost" I would say: $60.00 for 30 minutes plus the room. Of course, sessions sometimes cost more and sometimes less.

Prices in bars depend somewhat of how much "game" a monger has. Also on how popular is the chica, the day of the week, the time of day, the bar, etc. Deals Friday and Saturady night are harder to find than during slower times. Hong Kong prices tend to be higher than in most bars. And so it goes.

 

[teebee]

Normally prices are quoted and paid in dollars. I doubt they'd take pesos at 10:1. Nor would I try it.

One of the great things about most escort agencies is they don't "play games". I encourage mongers to return the favor so things remain as they are--a "gentleman's sport."

 

[loadedtomcat]

Although paying in pesos is usually a good money saving option. Keep in mind as the prices go up in the $70, $80 and even $100 range some BGs will complain about getting the short end of the exchange rate and expect you to make up the difference or they will take it out of you in the session. Now if your doing an SG she usually ask for 200 pesos or $20 dollars and will think nothing of getting shorted $2 dollars. However, I read that the famous Guadalupe was a little upset at this cheap monger on these boards who shorted her in the exchange rate and told him so. But like I said most girls will accept 600 pesos when they asked you for $60 dollars, but you should get ready when they get a little upset at your attempt to short change them in the exchange rate exchange.

Most of the escort services ask for $150 dollars, it would be interesting to a a monger who visits escort to instead of paying $150 dollars they instead pull out 1500 pesos which is a little over $130 dollars. I wonder what the escort or the escort service operator would do?

I don't know if AB chicas are still asking for $50 dollars, maybe in the daytime? ( I try to stay away from this bar) But the prices have been going up lately, it's not uncommon for a chica even in filthy smaller bars to ask for $70, $80 or even $100 dollars. I had a few chicas in AB ask me for $70 and refuse to go down, one in LC also wanted $70, and a overweight big gal in Miami wouldn't budge for under $80 dollars, and when I walked she said it's my lost. If you counter with a lower price you can still get it at $50 or $60 at most bars, but I think the average price is going up, as nighttime Hong Kong just about all the girls ask for at least $80 dollars.

 

[anasttqq]

I always get the biggest cup I don't want to keep making trips to the fountain machine.

 

[NeareWawecott]

IMHO there is no right or wrong way to monger. Just satisfied and unsatisfied mongers. But here's make take:

I have no trouble with guys staying on budget. But I go for fun so I don't worry about pinching pennies while I'm in TJ. That doesn't mean I wan't to get ripped off--I don't. But it also means paying $72.00 instead of $80.00 instant a big deal to me. (BTW, an AB session should be $50.00 to $60.00 not $80.00.)

Regarding prices: There are a lot of other places to monger besides AB and CC. Some of which provide better sessions at better prices.

 

[~o0o~]

You also forgot: Pay in pesos.
That reduces the price in your perspective to the "Mexican price".
By paying in dollars you are giving them an extra 10%.
Say they charge 800 pesos, they will quote you as an American 80 dlls, which at the exchange rate means they get 882 pesos.

 

[ardi]

I have been going to Adelita off and on for about twenty years. I tell I dreaded the day when internet tech sat in. In the old days you were lucky if you seen one or two other Americans in Adelita in the 80's and mid 90's. the second they started showing up the price for a good time doubled. Here is some of my tips in hope that it will better your good time.

1. Dont do the Mcdonalds. What this means is remember going in Mcdonald you buy your meal and they always offer to go big, than you notice that the soda machine in in the dinning area with free refills. You paid 25 cents more for a larger cup? With this tip I mean if the price is to high leave and look fo another place. There are other place in Zona Norte where the prices are more reasonable. (Discount alley in the back of Adelitas).

2. Sit and observe before you commit to a price you will later regret. When arriving to Adelita get youself a beer and sit and scope the scene. Find out who the Yo yo"s are.(The girls that take multiple trips up to the room they are up and down so much, that they will not in no way nogociate the price with you) Be careful of the Hawks. (these are women that will bounce on you the moment you walk in a room in hopes you do not know any better and will pay an asorpant price) The best bet are the lonely Maidens (they are the one not going to the room often, they usually sit quietly to themselves and do not say anything. They are more willing to nogociate)

3.What ever it takes learn your spainish. I have found that there are two prices in Mexico. The Gringo price, and the Mexican price. If you speak spainish the girls are more likely not to try to take advaneforum.xxxe of you, because they will assume that you know better. When I go to Adelita I alway speak spainish regardless of if the woman speaks to me in English or not.

4. Speak to as many girls about the price as you can, this will give you an idea on the going price.(its kinda like buying the first car you see on a used car lot the first one looks Good but sooner or later you find out you did not get your moneys worth)

And last: Sundays and week days are the best. avoid Saturdays and Fridays. The girls pay a door fee to work in some of the best cantina in Tiajuana. If it is a slow night and the customers are rare they lose their door fee and they make less than half of the money they would of made on a Saturday and Friday night.