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[Hornet]

Big bad Trump saving $450 million ....good play Dumbo

Trump Froze Aid To Guatemala. Now Programs Are Shutting Down

In April, the president put $450 million on hold for Guatemala as well as Honduras and El Salvador over what he described as the failure of their governments to stem the flow of migrants to the U.S.

www.npr.org

Aid programs are meant to give job opportunities and reduce the need for criminal activity so the migrants don’t have to come to the US border looking for jobs and safety and then have to deal with the problem on America’s doorsteps.

 

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Aid programs are meant to give job opportunities and reduce the need for criminal activity so the migrants don’t have to come to the US border looking for jobs and safety and then have to deal with the problem on America’s doorsteps.

Right but Trump is motivated by contempt of those without money or power...make them suffer.

 

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Dumbo confirmed...

 

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Dumbo confirmed...

and more...

Atlantic City: 'Trump turned this place into a ghost town'

When Trump won the election, photographer Brian Rose made straight for the gambling town – to show the reality behind his billionaire boasts. The broken city he captured speaks volumes about today’s America

www.theguardian.com

 

[jimmyd]

Yes Obama built the cages but Trump put the kids in cages. This was discussed weeks ago in this very thread.

Here is Trump telling Russia and Saudi Arabia to cut oil supply to raise prices

Trump calls on Russia and Saudi Arabia to cut oil production

Data released by the federal Energy Information Administration this week showed gasoline demand in the U.S. plummeting and oil inventories surging.

www.politico.com

thanks for showing that US unemployment at 5.8% before the Great Recession caused by the lack of controls on the banking system but was 4.6% when he left. The Financial Crisis was no Obama’s fault, they even had to pause election debates as the bailouts were happening. Natural unemployment being 4-5% (lower can lead to inflation which hurts seniors)

What Is the Natural Unemployment Rate?

The natural unemployment rate is measured by the number of people unemployed due to the structure of the labor force, such as those who lack the skills to gain employment or those moving from job to job.

www.investopedia.com

Dodd-Frank had to be implemented to put more controls on banks to avoid another financial disaster and Trump tried to roll that back in 2018

It’s not my bias to give 6% growth to Biden. I’m merely pointing to some facts and using your biases against you. This has been discussed earlier when you used Biden’s inauguration as the cut-off for who owns Covid deaths. If you are being consistent you must give him credit for that 6%. I don’t think Biden deserves all the credit for 6% just like I think Deaths that happened a few weeks after Inauguration is on Trumo and the Financial crisis and 9% unemployment is on Bush. But you like to cherry pick and I thought I’d throw that in to highlight you biases.

It is bias to give credit to someone for projected growth but not give any credit to someone who actually had a great economy.

Obama was handed a 5.8% unemployment, which he turned into 9.6% 2 years in. It took 6 years to bring it down to 4.9%. Trump brought it down to 3.7% in 2 years.

If you want to believe the nonsense about the gas, go ahead. The timeline doesn’t lie. A few short months ago we were enjoying gas under a dollar.

So who are the kids in the cages in the pictures in 2014?

You’re a classic leftist. You blame the previous administration for the current bad situation but take credit for any current good thing or any projected good thing.

Presidents are largely responsible for what happens during their term. With few exceptions.


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Saudi Arabia and Russia end their oil-price war with output cut agreement
By JAVIER BLAS, SALMA EL WARDANY AND GRANT SMITH on 4/9/2020



LONDON (Bloomberg) - Saudi Arabia and Russia ended a devastating oil price war on Thursday, agreeing to slash output together with other members of the OPEC+ alliance in an effort to lift the market from a pandemic-driven collapse.

The tentative deal came after strong pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump and American lawmakers, who fear thousands of job losses in the U.S. shale patch, not to mention Wall Street chaos. The price crash has also threatened the stability of oil-dependent nations and forced companies from Exxon Mobil Corp. to small independents to rein in spending.

 

[Hornet]

It is bias to give credit to someone for projected growth but not give any credit to someone who actually had a great economy.

Obama was handed a 5.8% unemployment, which he turned into 9.6% 2 years in. It took 6 years to bring it down to 4.9%. Trump brought it down to 3.7% in 2 years.

If you want to believe the nonsense about the gas, go ahead. The timeline doesn’t lie. A few short months ago we were enjoying gas under a dollar.

So who are the kids in the cages in the pictures in 2014?

You’re a classic leftist. You blame the previous administration for the current bad situation but take credit for any current good thing or any projected good thing.

Presidents are largely responsible for what happens during their term. With few exceptions.


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Some economists are projecting 8% growth this year (the year Biden is president). It’s not bias, it’s an eco mic forecast.

Obama didn’t turn the economy to shit. Go read the books The Big Short (or watch the movie) and Too Big to Fail and learn something. The collapse was pending under Bush’s watch. The clock was ticking and just needed the preferential mortgage rate windows to end and the interest increase couldn’t be met by homeowners and they had to default on their mortgages. Then you had all those bank derivative products based on that never happening that caused the collapse of many financial institutions. All this happened due to lax financial regulationsBut if you really believe Obama caused the collapse (and not worthy of an exception) you MUST also give Biden credit for a 6% increase in the economy. Now admit that,or prove to this community you are completely biased yourself (p.s. we already know you are but we want to see if you have any balls to admit it or not).

the Great Recession is also called the Recession of 2008. Obama didn’t take office until Jan 20th, 2009

and I’ve said it many times here, I’m not a leftist, I’m a moderate.

keep cherry picking on your gas argument but the link I provided shows the rate trends and the rates were higher under Trump then where they are now.

 

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I know you were holding up a MAGA flag at the time. Were you stupid then or are you stupid now?


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Just stop pretending you didn't know about this. The whole world knows that Drunk Trump said that the pandemic is a hoax, and said to ingest bleach and ultraviolet light to kill the virus. It's impossible not to know. Anyone and everyone was laughing about it.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Some economists are projecting 8% growth this year (the year Biden is president). It’s not bias, it’s an eco mic forecast.

Obama didn’t turn the economy to shit. Go read the books The Big Short (or watch the movie) and Too Big to Fail and learn something. The collapse was pending under Bush’s watch. The clock was ticking and just needed the preferential mortgage rate windows to end and the interest increase couldn’t be met by homeowners and they had to default on their mortgages. Then you had all those bank derivative products based on that never happening that caused the collapse of many financial institutions. All this happened due to lax financial regulationsBut if you really believe Obama caused the collapse (and not worthy of an exception) you MUST also give Biden credit for a 6% increase in the economy. Now admit that,or prove to this community you are completely biased yourself (p.s. we already know you are but we want to see if you have any balls to admit it or not).

and I’ve said it many times here, I’m not a leftist, I’m a moderate.

keep cherry picking on your gas argument but the link I provided shows the rate trends and the rates were higher under Trump then where they are now.

True, it was during the Bush presidency when the financial sector collapsed, that nearly cost the demise of Chrysler and GM.

But the collapse didn't have anything to do with interest rates. It had more to do with giving out loans and mortgages too easily to higher risk customers who couldn't pay them back.

 

[jimmyd]

So just that we’re clear. Everyone in here agrees that Trump never said anyone should drink bleach.


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[jimmyd]

Just stop pretending you didn't know about this. The whole world knows that Drunk Trump said that the pandemic is a hoax, and said to ingest bleach and ultraviolet light to kill the virus. It's impossible not to know. Anyone and everyone was laughing about it.

And yet, you can’t provide a quote or video of him saying either.

Were you stupid when you supported Trump or stupid now that you hate him?


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And yet, you can’t provide a quote or video of him saying either.

Were you stupid when you supported Trump or stupid now that you hate him?


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The quote is on video and absorbed by the public (literally)....only you are pretending it didn't happen...but pretending is your way of surviving just like the other Dumbo

 

[snoopdoggie]

It is bias to give credit to someone for projected growth but not give any credit to someone who actually had a great economy.

Obama was handed a 5.8% unemployment, which he turned into 9.6% 2 years in. It took 6 years to bring it down to 4.9%. Trump brought it down to 3.7% in 2 years.

If you want to believe the nonsense about the gas, go ahead. The timeline doesn’t lie. A few short months ago we were enjoying gas under a dollar.

So who are the kids in the cages in the pictures in 2014?

You’re a classic leftist. You blame the previous administration for the current bad situation but take credit for any current good thing or any projected good thing.

Presidents are largely responsible for what happens during their term. With few exceptions.


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The price of gas has nothing to do with which president we have. It has everything to do with supply and demand. The pandemic caused the price of gas to go down. Then the bad weather in Texas caused the shutdown of refineries. Which in turn caused prices to go up. The president doesn't control the natural forces that causes the shifting of supply and demand.

 

[snoopdoggie]

So just that we’re clear. Everyone in here agrees that Trump never said anyone should drink bleach.


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Yes he did. And also stick ultraviolet light down your throat.

 

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The price of gas has nothing to do with which president we have. It has everything to do with supply and demand. The pandemic caused the price of gas to go down. Then the bad weather in Texas caused the shutdown of refineries. Which in turn caused prices to go up. The president doesn't control the natural forces that causes the shifting of supply and demand.

Trump wanted the Saudis and Russian to stop the oil war so prices would rise....of course he did... his big oil buddies wanted that...jimmyd is delusional and supremely ignorant

 

[jimmyd]

Some economists are projecting 8% growth this year (the year Biden is president). It’s not bias, it’s an eco mic forecast.

Obama didn’t turn the economy to shit. Go read the books The Big Short (or watch the movie) and Too Big to Fail and learn something. The collapse was pending under Bush’s watch. The clock was ticking and just needed the preferential mortgage rate windows to end and the interest increase couldn’t be met by homeowners and they had to default on their mortgages. Then you had all those bank derivative products based on that never happening that caused the collapse of many financial institutions. All this happened due to lax financial regulationsBut if you really believe Obama caused the collapse (and not worthy of an exception) you MUST also give Biden credit for a 6% increase in the economy. Now admit that,or prove to this community you are completely biased yourself (p.s. we already know you are but we want to see if you have any balls to admit it or not).

the Great Recession is also called the Recession of 2008. Obama didn’t take office until Jan 20th, 2009

and I’ve said it many times here, I’m not a leftist, I’m a moderate.

keep cherry picking on your gas argument but the link I provided shows the rate trends and the rates were higher under Trump then where they are now.

Who cares about trends? I was paying $0.95 months ago when Trump was president, and now paying $1.20 when Biden is president.

Even with the China virus, a once in a century pandemic, the unemployment never got as high in 2020, as Obama’s 9.6% in 2010. Keep trying, bro.

I noticed you didn’t address the 2014 kids in cages picture. I wonder why? Or the craziness at the border.

You can call yourself a moderate or whatever you want. Your thinking is leftist.

I don’t give anyone credit for projected growths. If Biden bring back the economy, he gets the credit. I highly doubt he will though, with policies like a $15/hr minimum wage. And we won’t know how Trump would’ve brought it back.

Oh, Biden also gets credit for 136k China virus deaths.


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[jimmyd]

Yes he did. And also stick ultraviolet light down your throat.

And you can’t provide proof.

Were you stupid then or stupid now?


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And you can’t provide proof.

Were you stupid then or stupid now?


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it's on the video...Dumbo says put light into the body

 

[jimmyd]

Some economists are projecting 8% growth this year (the year Biden is president). It’s not bias, it’s an eco mic forecast.

Obama didn’t turn the economy to shit. Go read the books The Big Short (or watch the movie) and Too Big to Fail and learn something. The collapse was pending under Bush’s watch. The clock was ticking and just needed the preferential mortgage rate windows to end and the interest increase couldn’t be met by homeowners and they had to default on their mortgages. Then you had all those bank derivative products based on that never happening that caused the collapse of many financial institutions. All this happened due to lax financial regulationsBut if you really believe Obama caused the collapse (and not worthy of an exception) you MUST also give Biden credit for a 6% increase in the economy. Now admit that,or prove to this community you are completely biased yourself (p.s. we already know you are but we want to see if you have any balls to admit it or not).

the Great Recession is also called the Recession of 2008. Obama didn’t take office until Jan 20th, 2009

and I’ve said it many times here, I’m not a leftist, I’m a moderate.

keep cherry picking on your gas argument but the link I provided shows the rate trends and the rates were higher under Trump then where they are now.

So just that we’re clear... we’re supposed to take the economists that project growth under Biden but projected a downturn for Trump and after Brexit seriously?

Trump should get extra credit for beating the economists’ projections.


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So just that we’re clear... we’re supposed to take the economists that project growth under Biden but projected a downturn for Trump and after Brexit seriously?

Trump should get extra credit for beating the economists’ projections.


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Trump hated Obama ....it killed him to live off the Obama economic success