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Just counted the all the postcode areas (approx 105 so say 100) and divided it into 11000, so there is 110 GRCCT registrants per area, really?
 
Not really, CNHC is the only CAM regulator sponsored/funded/endorsed by the government. I don't even think GRCCT is a legal entity, it looks like it's run by a mother and son team who run a school and also heavily influence their professional lead body.

CAM is going through huge changes, the likes of which we have never encountered before, so not only does CNHC have to try to encourage therapists to register, they all have to fight off detractors not only from outside, but also inside the industry. Those that don't want change seem to be the ones with most to lose.

The govt has established that voluntary regs are good for CAM and decided to continue it's funding, which is a good thing IMO.
 
8 in mine, 7 in the neigbouring one, 9 in the closest big city to me, 0 in the closest big town to me
 
Agree with most points however note (despite being excellent courses) the "levels" quoted by MC / BTEC were "self awarded and have little to do with the real world ie: outside ISRM and definately not the QCF




which reinforces my point about nationally standardised levels of education, external policing and industry regulation

Jx
 
I agree, at my school, I have a minimum of 4 visits per year on accreditation/EV visits, this year in January already have had two visits, last year we had additional ones, at our request, and had 8. IMO these visits make the student feel confident that its not just them under scrutiny, we are also.

The problem is, this isnt always happening in all schools.
 
'Unfortunately' there already is supposed to be
However
Nationally standardised levels of education
QCF / WBA / RITS currently do not appear to be enforcing their requirements and have allowed several sub standard / incorrectly mapped qualifications onto the framework (examples and reasons available on request) and the water is now proving extremely muddy for those who wish to follow the rules

External policing
Ofqual appears to have a very 'charitable' approach to the enforcement of QMS requirements.

Industry regulation
Voluntary regulation allows some (again, examples available upon request) to simply ignore it all anyway

Confused ???

"Well, whenever I'm confused, I just check my underwear. It holds the answer to all the important questions." - Abe Simpson


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is this a record for the number of abbreviations in one post?
 
Examples would be nice. If voluntary regulation isn't doing what its supposed to be doing then how do we stop these schools from flouting the rules? Is Voluntary Regulation just a 'toothless tiger'?
 
Dan,
policing schools is not the job of the regulator. As an example...you would expect for someone to get HPC registration as a physio that they would undergo a good level of ultrasound training, as that is well within the remit of a physio, and is used by most. Wrong....in one university that I know of they dont like it so they dont teach it. Are you saying that statutory regulators are also toothless tigers?

Policing schools is the role of the education sector....it just so happens that this isnt occurring properly so the lead bodies have had to get involved to protect the regulator, and in turn, (attempt to) protect the public. (If you have opinions on that, please use the CNHC threads so as not to take this too far off topic again)

You know yourself that the course you have been doing doesnt meet anyones standards apart from their own, so what do they do, they work outside of regulation, and then theres no-one at all to slap their wrists.

Whilst it is not the job of the regulator to get involved in a schools standards, should they be informed that 'so & so' school is not delivering to the required standards, then they would not accept an application for registration from one of their graduates.
 
I refer back to a thread in which I publicly stated that Awarding organisations must shoulder the blame, they award the certificates based on evidence supplied by training providers.
if that training provider is less than honest, or photo copies large volumes of evidence, or allows theory papers to be undertaken in "open book " format.

Then the AO should be spot checking, FE has a minimum of 2 observations for each tutor by external assessors, evidence is sampled at 25=50 % depending on the lenght of time the qualification has been running t the FE college, this is because in private training providers, they access public funds, the AOs unfortunately dont police this enough, they blamer the lack of resources ( staff), but then state to the PAs that they cannot go and check these training centres.

One AO has the qualifications development manager, the qualificartions manager and a leading external verifier running their own schools, all of which fail to meet the minimum educational standards.....who exactly are externally checking these schools?

These have been brought to the attention of the regulator, and wil be discussed at a meeting at the end of the month, I will present evidence which shows recently permitted verifying organisations are flouting their responsibilities, I hope to have the verifiying status revoked or at least suspended until it is investigated and all their registered members audited. Unfortunately the regulator has to wait until these meetings and seek the advice of the PSB members before it can act, as these are the specialist in each case.

There are teething problem,. but they are being addressed.

bg
 
I've just got around to reading the January issue of Sportex. In amongst the interesting, not so interesting and frankly rubbish articles were a couple of quotes I thought I'd share. I recommend anybody interested in regulations, CNHC etc. etc. to have a read of it.

BASRaT Communications Co-ordinator Michael Nicol;
"It has become clear that statutory regulation of our field has become increasingly unlikely and now largely unworkable due to the high number of poorly qualified professionals now practising in the area."

BASRat are interesting to me as I come from a conditioning background and have generally fitted into the slot between the physios and fitness coaches with the teams I have worked with. Did they try to get rehabilitation regulated?

Bob Bramah, Editor Sportex;
".....there is nothing wrong with being a 'complementary therapist' but if you want to be taken seriously by the medical profession, especially in sport, it is a name you should avoid."

A personal view but interesting given that the SMA is working with the CNHC and this magazine is distributed to their members. Demonstrates the split in our field quite well.

Obviously these are just parts of the articles, so please have a look if you can so I can't be accused of taking things out of context. (And no I don't work for them so don't take this as advertising either.)
 
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  33. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  34. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty student Vivian and young fun Tina open mind with 36DD, Cute GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, MONIKA, AMANDA, ANAYA, AAVI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  38. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, MIMI & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services. VIVI is a very cute and young lady
  39. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & LUCY AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  40. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at SUNRISE SPA: EMILY, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39
  41. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ HELEN: A YOUNG TALL AND SLIM VIETNAMESE GIRL WITH A VERY LUSCIOUS BODY, 5'7 WITH AN INCREDIBLE BEHIND ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  42. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, HANNA & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  43. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella &new girl Kitty. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Kitty is a very cute & young Petite Vietnamese lady with decent massage skills and very wild services.
  45. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!! KOREAN NYMPHO SUMMER & SHANGHAI SENSATION JENNIFER!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  46. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 13th , MONDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage * 2hr $120* (Appt. Only) , TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 5๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒนSENECA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & SENECA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  47. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!! VIET SERVICE QUEEN JENNY AND HK HOTTIE FOX!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธevery day 3 girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนCoco.Jessica.Cici very good service massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜table shower body scrub 5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALAY, MONIKA, KIRAN, MIMI, NISHA, ANAYA, YAYAL PEARL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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