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I have only paid for sex in spas but I do peruse sights like Leolist and Listcrawler for amusement. There are two signals that to me indicate a scam. The first is SWs who ask for a deposit. The second is those who advertise that they do Greek. For those more familiar with that world what are some other scam signals?
 
I have only paid for sex in spas but I do peruse sights like Leolist and Listcrawler for amusement. There are two signals that to me indicate a scam. The first is SWs who ask for a deposit. The second is those who advertise that they do Greek. For those more familiar with that world what are some other scam signals?
Personally I don’t try anyone from LL or LC that hasn’t been reviewed. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a “unicorn” but these days it’s way too risky. Bait and switch, pimp in the next room etc.

Also, how they text back can be an indication. Do they address you by the name you provided, how long do they take to respond, and just the overall vibe of the text exchange.
 
Here's my guide.

Reverse image search the pics.

Google search the number in the format 555-555-5555 - I find sometimes with brackets I get different results.

Look for how fast they text back.
Look for similar text responses. A lot of pimps and agencies pretend the girl is Indy but you see patterns after a while that emerge.

For sure go with reviewed girls.

Look for area codes that make sense. Quebec and ONT are most common. I get there are travelling sps but sometimes an area code from Atlantic sticks out.

Do they promise a lot for little money - 99.9% too good to be true.

Never pay a deposit.
Never send ID/References on LL. I understand there are reviewed providers that ask or those that ask for outcalls but generally I don't trust them.

Most scammers use reddit gonewild girls or famous ethots and some pornstars. Familiarize yourself with who is hot right now because their pics seems to get used a lot. It's counterintuitive for me because if im seeing sps or mps I feel like throwing clientele would spot this instantly but here we are. (Ie Hannahowo, Belle Delphine, Breckie Hill)

Look for posts in multiple areas. A lot of scammers spam LL with Durham and Burlington at the same time. Usually a huge tell. Only ones that make sense for duplicates are borders like Mississauga/Oakville seeing both. Or Oakville/Burlington.

Know the rough areas. I grew up in Rexdale so my "hood" sense is decent but learn where just not to be. My tip used to be if I saw a Coffee Time. No good area has a coffee time. Personally I haven't hobbied in the 427/Dundas area in a while for example.

I avoid "party friendly" SPs or ones with snowflakes in their ads. That's more just me but I've been burned with coke addict sps.

Don't see SP on LL that advertise as 18. Again that's a just me thing but a lot of the 18yo ads seem scamish to me.

Read the parking lot or the room. See a bunch of guys hanging out in the parking lot could be nothing or could be a set up. Look for lurkers in hotel lobbies.

Always always always go with your gut. You have nothing to lose by walking away.
 
Personally I don’t try anyone from LL or LC that hasn’t been reviewed. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a “unicorn” but these days it’s way too risky. Bait and switch, pimp in the next room etc.

Also, how they text back can be an indication. Do they address you by the name you provided, how long do they take to respond, and just the overall vibe of the text exchange.
Some of the Leolist ads scream scams: For example ads says 10,000% real photos. The stupid scammer does know in math or statistics 100% is the highest percentage you can get. How silly is to write 10,000%. The other scam sign: the ads keeps saying: daily new girls but the photos are used for past 6 months are the same or FS for 1 hour just $120. The other sign: ads for 1 or 2 girls but they posted photos of 10 different girls.
 
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Here's my guide.

Reverse image search the pics.

Google search the number in the format 555-555-5555 - I find sometimes with brackets I get different results.

Look for how fast they text back.
Look for similar text responses. A lot of pimps and agencies pretend the girl is Indy but you see patterns after a while that emerge.

For sure go with reviewed girls.

Look for area codes that make sense. Quebec and ONT are most common. I get there are travelling sps but sometimes an area code from Atlantic sticks out.

Do they promise a lot for little money - 99.9% too good to be true.

Never pay a deposit.
Never send ID/References on LL. I understand there are reviewed providers that ask or those that ask for outcalls but generally I don't trust them.

Most scammers use reddit gonewild girls or famous ethots and some pornstars. Familiarize yourself with who is hot right now because their pics seems to get used a lot. It's counterintuitive for me because if im seeing sps or mps I feel like throwing clientele would spot this instantly but here we are. (Ie Hannahowo, Belle Delphine, Breckie Hill)

Look for posts in multiple areas. A lot of scammers spam LL with Durham and Burlington at the same time. Usually a huge tell. Only ones that make sense for duplicates are borders like Mississauga/Oakville seeing both. Or Oakville/Burlington.

Know the rough areas. I grew up in Rexdale so my "hood" sense is decent but learn where just not to be. My tip used to be if I saw a Coffee Time. No good area has a coffee time. Personally I haven't hobbied in the 427/Dundas area in a while for example.

I avoid "party friendly" SPs or ones with snowflakes in their ads. That's more just me but I've been burned with coke addict sps.

Don't see SP on LL that advertise as 18. Again that's a just me thing but a lot of the 18yo ads seem scamish to me.

Read the parking lot or the room. See a bunch of guys hanging out in the parking lot could be nothing or could be a set up. Look for lurkers in hotel lobbies.

Always always always go with your gut. You have nothing to lose by walking away.
Really great points, thanks for sharing. And I agree, the Dundas/427 corridor is pretty sketch
 
Here's my guide.

Reverse image search the pics.

Google search the number in the format 555-555-5555 - I find sometimes with brackets I get different results.

Look for how fast they text back.
Look for similar text responses. A lot of pimps and agencies pretend the girl is Indy but you see patterns after a while that emerge.

For sure go with reviewed girls.

Look for area codes that make sense. Quebec and ONT are most common. I get there are travelling sps but sometimes an area code from Atlantic sticks out.

Do they promise a lot for little money - 99.9% too good to be true.

Never pay a deposit.
Never send ID/References on LL. I understand there are reviewed providers that ask or those that ask for outcalls but generally I don't trust them.

Most scammers use reddit gonewild girls or famous ethots and some pornstars. Familiarize yourself with who is hot right now because their pics seems to get used a lot. It's counterintuitive for me because if im seeing sps or mps I feel like throwing clientele would spot this instantly but here we are. (Ie Hannahowo, Belle Delphine, Breckie Hill)

Look for posts in multiple areas. A lot of scammers spam LL with Durham and Burlington at the same time. Usually a huge tell. Only ones that make sense for duplicates are borders like Mississauga/Oakville seeing both. Or Oakville/Burlington.

Know the rough areas. I grew up in Rexdale so my "hood" sense is decent but learn where just not to be. My tip used to be if I saw a Coffee Time. No good area has a coffee time. Personally I haven't hobbied in the 427/Dundas area in a while for example.

I avoid "party friendly" SPs or ones with snowflakes in their ads. That's more just me but I've been burned with coke addict sps.

Don't see SP on LL that advertise as 18. Again that's a just me thing but a lot of the 18yo ads seem scamish to me.

Read the parking lot or the room. See a bunch of guys hanging out in the parking lot could be nothing or could be a set up. Look for lurkers in hotel lobbies.

Always always always go with your gut. You have nothing to lose by walking away.

"Party friendly" is a big one, if I were to have a top 5 list, that would be in the top 5.
 
The 'party friendly' one is a good tell, I agree. Nothing really good comes out of a provider that wants to use crystal or snow.
Somewhat obvious are the girls that don't give any info on text or call. Like if you keep trying to ask for more information about her services and her (or the person at the other end) just keeps saying "come babe, i will give you a good time" with the amount of money she wants being the only clear piece of info, something is probably wrong too.
 
I have only paid for sex in spas but I do peruse sights like Leolist and Listcrawler for amusement. There are two signals that to me indicate a scam. The first is SWs who ask for a deposit. The second is those who advertise that they do Greek. For those more familiar with that world what are some other scam signals?
I mean usually your gut is a pretty good indicator, if their text seems sketch your gut probably already has indicators going off
 
Besides ads asking 4 deposits, a few = very obv! 🔍 🕵️‍♂️

… ad just lists every service under the sun @ cheap rate. Gimme a break!

How about, ”Im not an escort, just looking 4 sex”? Who does that? I can’t imagine a woman wants 2 hook up w a guy looking 4 prostitutes! 💃 Like seriously, a woman wants 2 hook up, so many places she can place a free ad… wtf pays 2 put an ad in LL or LC 2 meet guys?

… u could meet pimps that way I guess! :lol
 
1st could be real… 🤔 2nd just screams scam b&s 2me… o_O

Looking @ 1st one… 🔍 🕵️‍♂️ that style, all caps, strange punctuation… nvr saw that in an ad b4… verified pics, thats not f/ insta… if it isnt her, then she paid someone. It happens but less common. Every pic = verified, not just some of ‘m, which’d make it more xxpensive if it aint her. I think she placed her own ad or @ least someone new did it, mebbe bf… translation ap used.

So, who nose, her service could b awful, but I think its not a scam… IMHO thats her… very tempting. 👀

2nd one… that style looks so familiar! Im shur they posted b4… its funny they talk about big tits :boobs but its just avg tits in the pic… 24 hrs? Thats an incall… no way one girl does 24 hrs solo… & they talk about duos, so likely theres a few girls there…. girl in the pic? Mebbe worked there in October but prolly long gone now since nvr updated the pic… I think u wont meet that girl, & u may not get those services. Cbj, cfs, Asian older gals.

if it were real, they post updated pics & ad‘d have more flair & personality. IMHO
 
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1st could be real… 🤔 2nd just screams scam b&s 2me… o_O

Looking @ 1st one… 🔍 🕵️‍♂️ that style, all caps, strange punctuation… nvr saw that in an ad b4… verified pics, thats not f/ insta… if it isnt her, then she paid someone. It happens but less common. Every pic = verified, not just some of ‘m, which’d make it more xxpensive if it aint her. I think she placed her own ad or @ least someone new did it, mebbe bf… translation ap used.

So, who nose, her service could b awful, but I think its not a scam… IMHO thats her… very tempting. 👀

2nd one… that style looks so familiar! Im shur they posted b4… its funny they talk about big tits :boobs but its just avg tits in the pic… 24 hrs? Thats an incall… no way one girl does 24 hrs solo… & they talk about duos, so likely theres a few girls there…. girl in the pic? Mebbe worked there in October but prolly long gone now since nvr updated the pic… I think u wont meet that girl, & u may not get those services. Cbj, cfs, Asian older gals.

if it were real, they post updated pics & ad‘d have more flair & personality. IMHO
Contrast 1st ad with the second one, and the second really looks fake.
 
apparently its pretty easy to get verified on LL so don't always believe that either
I think you look at the picture yourself then decide if it looks believable.

When I see the girl holding up a recent date with Leolist on it, and no ps signs, I believe it.
 
I think you look at the picture yourself then decide if it looks believable.

When I see the girl holding up a recent date with Leolist on it, and no ps signs, I believe it.
1st could be real… 🤔 2nd just screams scam b&s 2me… o_O

Looking @ 1st one… 🔍 🕵️‍♂️ that style, all caps, strange punctuation… nvr saw that in an ad b4… verified pics, thats not f/ insta… if it isnt her, then she paid someone. It happens but less common. Every pic = verified, not just some of ‘m, which’d make it more xxpensive if it aint her. I think she placed her own ad or @ least someone new did it, mebbe bf… translation ap used.

So, who nose, her service could b awful, but I think its not a scam… IMHO thats her… very tempting. 👀

2nd one… that style looks so familiar! Im shur they posted b4… its funny they talk about big tits :boobs but its just avg tits in the pic… 24 hrs? Thats an incall… no way one girl does 24 hrs solo… & they talk about duos, so likely theres a few girls there…. girl in the pic? Mebbe worked there in October but prolly long gone now since nvr updated the pic… I think u wont meet that girl, & u may not get those services. Cbj, cfs, Asian older gals.

if it were real, they post updated pics & ad‘d have more flair & personality. IMHO
true . i went to one , not the ones linked above , and the ladies were decades above advertised on leolist. waste of time lol oh well . hard for new person looking for a quick easy bang to tell whats legit or not but yeah if look too good to be true then must be
 
Take a look at the picture's background - do they have European or Asian style electric wall plugs or non-North American style furnishings? Bathrooms too - do they look North American? Pretty much a sure sign that the pictures are lifted from somewhere.

Timbit
 
Best advice is if it's your first time or you're generally new and looking at where you land on the hobby list, stick to spas or agencies, LL is a needle in a haystack, if it's not a scam it's bait and switch a lot of the times, spas I assume would be "safer" alternative from being scammed because you see the person and there's no deposit bs
 
Best advice is if it's your first time or you're generally new and looking at where you land on the hobby list, stick to spas or agencies, LL is a needle in a haystack, if it's not a scam it's bait and switch a lot of the times, spas I assume would be "safer" alternative from being scammed because you see the person and there's no deposit bs
Call me paranoid, I just do not trust anything outside a spa.
 
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  29. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan
  30. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  31. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys 🤪🤪🤪Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹Tiffany sexy body big boobs 😘😘😘very good body slide 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹and Angela very good table shower😘😘😘😘😘 deep massage 👍👍👍👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  32. Red Rose Spa:
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  33. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  34. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at 💭DREAM INN WELLNESS SPA💭: ELSA, NINA & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 647-829-2983 ☎️ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty, about 5’2” and 100 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. NINA is a Chinese Born Vietnamese lady, 168Cms, 110Lbs with long black hair
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young open minded Yoyo 36DD and young cute Sophia, pretty GFE Ella and sweet Fun Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. GoldenFlower:
    SATURDAY at 💛⭐🌟🌻 GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌻 🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Mika(to 7pm), Mimi, Molly(to 7pm) & Sherry. After 7pm: Monica & Sonia Mika(to 7pm) is a sexy petite Vietnamese lady who can take good care of all your needs. Mimi is young honey who can rock your world. Molly(to 7pm) is a petite young Asian sweetheart
  37. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Lucy & Maggie. Lucy is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Lisa, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Lisa is a young beautiful Viet spinner with 36DD’s, great massage and bbbj, very open minded.
  40. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 NEW GIRL MOON: A VERY YOUNG VIETNAMESE STUDENT WITH A VERY SEXY BODY, SLIM AND VERY OPEN MINDED 🌸 JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    THE FOX!!!! @Sparkling Spa👌MENTION ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MIN☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  42. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  43. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝔸ℙℝ𝕀𝕃 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 APRIL 27th , SATURDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 5️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹 🆕 NAT 🌹SUNNY 🌹 🆕 OLIVIA 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹 SUNNY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 DAISY & 🆕 TINA & OLIVIA & 🆕 NAT & SUNNY ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young CBC Rachel tonight 8pm-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  45. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reynaella wellness @ 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham ☎️:905-470-8082
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    Let us relax you @Sparkling Spa👌MENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MIN☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  47. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys 🤪🤪🤪Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹Mia sexy body big boobs 😘😘😘very good body slide 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹and Cici 😘very good table shower😘😘😘😘😘 Helen deep tissue massage 👍👍👍👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 7 hot brown girls today 🌸 COCO, ASHA, SANA, MONIKA, DELILAH, AMANDA, MIMI, KIRAN, MAY 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  50. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Anna😘- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
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