No3 @ No1

[Emanuel E]

Good luck for the future Sam. This is a complicated way to start a relationship but others have got over it and succeeded. You have some difficult choices to face in a few months.

The romantic in me hopes you both sail into the sunset, raise kids and live happily ever after. The cynic in me hopes she is not seeking a husband/citizenship before her visa expires plus someone to sponser her parents/family into Canada and support them when they arrive.

Your posting indicated you are already aware and smart enough to figure out the truth. I hope it all ends happily. Let us know.

Btw, where was the first place on your list where all this took place?

 

[Blinkie]

Wow, what a story.
Please send us the occasional update on how things are going, and best of luck to you.

 

[Jennifer Babyyy]

How do you introduce her to your friends when the obvious question of how you met comes up?

The reason I ask, is similar opportunities have come about for me, but I always shut the girl down when my brain starts thinking of all the problems that might come out of it.

I think back to a few sometimes, when a girl just melts when I look in her eyes and embraces me and says please take me to show me your home, etc. I feel kind of bad for being prejudiced against the idea of a relationship with a working girl, which is kind of hypocritical being that I am a customer.

Good luck with your situation though, you are treading on a path that many of us think about but have avoided for many reasons (maybe unnecessary paranoia).

 

[Pompal 09.]

Thank you one and all. I honestly did not expect any real postitive feedback. In fact, I have learned that Canadians are more polite than I had been led to believe.

Just to respond to some of what was written today. First, the imigration situation. If you had looked carefully at my user name and location you might have guessed that I am not even Canadian. You might even be able to guess where I am from. So, it is not possible to help her in this way from where I will be over the next five months, and she understands this.

Regarding friends, I have no real friends here, just the people I assiciate with where I am working. I guess you might say she is the only real frined I will know here for the next 5 months. I cannot imagine needing much more than I have found.

Some more things I have learned about No.3. Her mother is Chinese, but her father is Japanese, and her father required that her mother learn many Japanese customs, and in turn pass them along to her daughter. As a young girl she had to bathe her father and older brother and she never cared for this. But now, she wants to do all that for me everyday and I have to let her know that it is not necessary to do it. But, she has said that for the first time in her life she enjoys doing it since it is with someone she cares about. It is a wonderful experience, especially the first time. I have a hard time making her understand that our relationship is 50/50 and she does not always have to do everything for me.

Now, do not get the idea that all is perfect in our friendship. First, she has a difficult time grasping the concept of maid service. Where we stay we have daily service but she insists on doing it all for us. It looks like I will not win this battle over the next five months.

Then regarding shopping. She really has very little clothes so yesterday we went shopping. She tried on many things and they all looked great on her, but then she looked at the price and put them back. After about an hour of this with nothing bought yet I became frustated with her and said I was going to choose her cloths for her. I purposely chose the worst things I could find and very soon she started to catch on to what I was doing, so she agreed that she would choose the clothes herself. So, I won this little battle, and for sure, she looks so much better in what she was selecting than what I was going for. When she left the mall she had her arms full and was like a little girl who had just finished shopping for new school clothes with her rich aunt. She was still bothered by the amount of money I spent on her but I let her know that she was still worth much more than this small amount to me. And, besides, I let her know that it was very important to me that she look good when we are together.

 

[overthemoon]

Are you sure you want to do that ... http://www.eforum.xxx.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34626

All kidding aside, best of luck to you and I hope things work out.

 

[Alison-x0]

ABC/ABK is indeed American Born Chinese and American Born Korean. I did spend 30 years in the states, but I learned those phrases HERE from the parents of severeal ABC brats. I defer to my native associates on the use of CBC/CBK...

As for the way this thread has turned... wow. I must admit it smells a bit like storytelling to me, but I grant chance to the author and wish him luck. Having been deep into that fold for many, many years I can assure you it will be a wild ride for you, but if you have an open mind and little to lose you should enjoy it.

Now if you have alot to lose, maybe we should chat over a beer. There are caveats, for sure.

 

[Richard]

Best of luck to you SamMalone, it seems you have good intentions. That is what I like to hear. So many guys go for these Asian girls like vultures on wounded prey, extracting what they can out of them. A lot of pooners try to get these girls onto drugs, or empty offers of a better life, or make them laboratories for their twisted kinks, or just to see for how cheap they are willing to go at expense of their self-worth. Many are here under tough situations and they need to be treated with the respect and the dignity that should be accorded to them. I hope you deserve her.

 

[SlsB]

Yup, "Carpe Diem" would be the appropiate way to describe what I have been experiencing.

When I came to Vancouver almost 3 weeks ago, I had only one plan; go and experience an AMP and remember, "no expections, no disappointments". So far it has played out in a way I could never imagined, but it has been a great ride.

No3 does miss hanging out with the girls in that dreary room where they wait for customers, but does not miss any other part of the business. I am not sure if any of the other girls feel the same way she does. Perhaps they are more money-hungry than she.

Since she misses them so much I suggested that she invite them all over to our place some night after work. Pizza and wine would be a good format, and we have ample room if they need to crash afterwards. Fortunately for her, they will all have to return to the work the next morning, but she will remain with me. Each of these ladies deserves to find a guy who will treat them well. I honestly believe that none of them would choose to remain in this line of work if an opportunately arose for them.

 

[Pompal 09.]

OK enough of the soap opera already!!! This is a review section not a bedtime story telling forum.

 

[Joan]

SM you seem to be doing ok and no doubt when your new found friend returns home after her Canadian visa expires she will immediately apply for a visa to visit the US. After all she has a good friend from there it seems.

You still have not told us the name of the place where you met her. If this is intentional (as I suspect) just say so and we will give up asking. At the $120 rate one place SL ips into mind but who knows?

Anyways good luck with your relationship. Like Big John, I do not have your freedom but I too have had a couple of 'good friends' before and in fact I still do have one. Like yours, she hated the business and quit after a few days. However she set up her own import business and does not need any financial support from me.

 

[Jamal of Babylon]

I really had planned to have at least half a dozen AMP outings under my belt by now, but still have only the first one. No reason to go again, yet.

My crash course in Chinese culture continues daily and I have gotten very good at using chopsticks. There was a time when I would have starved if I had to use them.

No.3 has been rapidly improving in the use of English. Only problem is she has started to pick up my accent, but this is not good. We were watching a re-run of Cheers and she says I talk just like Cliff. That really hurt, but I guess she does not understand the real Cliff.

We finally had the other girls from her place over for pizza and wine. That was a real culture shock for me. Let me say that I have come to like all these girls because they are her friends, but I must still keep in mind what they do for a living.

As the night progressed and the bottles started to get empty, I noticed the playfulness of the little ones, and for the first time I saw No.3 getting a little jealous. The more wine they drank, the more their modesty went out the window. I found my self in the middle of the group and all of them except No.3 had, let's just say, they had slipped into something a little bit more comfortable since they would be sleeping over with us and going to work from there the next morning.

Having more time to reflect on that evening I guess when they are so accustomed to getting undressed in front of guys (yes, some of you, I am sure) the three of them had no problem with me seeing them in various stages of un-dress. But, it got a little too wild for No.3 so she tamed them down. She is the only one of them who had just a few sips of wine. The rest really seemed to want to let their hair down. But, do not get me wrong, we all had a pretty good time. They are already talking to her about a repeat. Little does she know that too much temptation for me is not such a good idea. But, I shall not stand in the way of their good times. I will sacrifice myself in the interest of their fun.

When it came time for sleep, she and I gave up the bed to them and we shared one of the couches. I must admit I had this morbid curiousity to slip into the bedroom and sneak a quick look, but I knew I have a wonderful thing with her and I will not give that up.

I am not sure how they hamdled themselves the next day because they had put away a lot of wine, but maybe they were not busy and got to catch up on their sleep between customers.

Okay, guys, let me just say this. These are all lovely young girls and they deserve to be treated with respect. I know a little goes a long way and I am now talking about any girls in any of the many AMPs in Vancouver, not just these girls in particular. Most of them probably have had a pretty hard life, and, given the choice, they would not choose to do this kind of work. I know one for sure who was given a choice and she jumperd on that chioce without hesitation. She has yet to voice a single complaint to me since she left there, and my time in Vancouver has become so much better than I had ever expected.

 

[margo]

The old saying; The difference between a hooker and a date, is you know the price of the hooker up front. Caveat emptor and good luck, as I suspect you will need it.

 

[Adora]

If you disapprove of that in them, why didn't you disapprove of it in your GF when she was doing it, and also disapprove of it in yourself, since you were complicit?
Or am I reading this incorrectly?

 

[cringe dragon]

Nice of you to share your experience, hope all goes well for the lot. Amazing how far a little respect really goes. Have fun. No buns intended, enjoy your girl or whatever else comes up. I know a lot of guys would die to be in your shoes.

 

[PFC Ramirez]

So ... forget about who No. 3 is ... but how about telling us where & what name this AMP is?