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New Id

Yeah...and before that they were checking in the clients wallet for $$$.Lol.
 
New Id

MatT, I don't recall Cosmo threatening anyone. And, if the "lol" at the top was any clue, he's joking around. Where's your sense of humour? :confused:

Oh, yeah... and must you always have the last word? :eek:
 
New Id

okay guys i not heard to start any verbal fights so i'll keep this short.what i did was for all the guys that got screwed by this place and the unfriendly staff there,sometimes in life you have to get even. i noticed that manabouttown comments are always defensive and a little against the board(like were always the bad guys).this website was create to share info and to enhance our hobby to a new level,by helping one other and get even with the places that rip you off.the girls working in this industry are smart and eager to take your money so they have to provide a fair service and respect their clients.if places like ideal not give a shit someone has to put them straight for the sake of the whole massage businesses in montreal if not this cancer will spread.i hope manabouttown understands my position.thanks
 
New Id

Me threathening?Come on!Look who's talking.I'm not the on who made allegations about horse head ,lead in the head etc....Get over it.
 
New Id

MATt,

Do you read these posts before you reply? Cosmo made the joke about looking in customer's wallets. Endless made the threat.

At least direct your comments at the right people.
 
New Id

Maybe any reference to Ideal Sante' should have in the title - very expensive. There is no question that the women are greedy and will get as much as they can.

I think there is also no question that the women there give an above average massage. Anytime, you end up haggling in price over something, I doubt any of the parties have a good experience when all is said in done.

If you go into the appointment knowing it will cost you above market rate but are willing to pay that, I think the women will be more responsive and give you the type of experience you are hoping for. Since I participate fairly infrequently, I don't have a problem paying extra for a clean, safe and enjoyable time. I am very satisfied with my mileage here.

I think this thread says it all. Anyone who reads this knows up front that it is expensive and the women are money hungry. If you go there expect to pay. If you disagree with the price structure, don't go there. However, knowing what you know, don't go there trying to name your own price. Maybe someone can start a Priceline for MP's.
 
New Id

EL the joke could be on you as this is an illegal practise.
I hope you destroyed the "evidence".
 
New Id

Recording your own conversation is not illegal in Canada. Believe me, I know for a fact. If it would be illegal, cops would have closed my business a long time ago!

As long as 1 party involved in the conversation is aware of the recording, it's legal. You can't plant a microphone in a room and leave since you won't be part of the conversation anymore but, if you're still in the room and are a party to the recorded conversation, you're perfectly legal to record it and you don't need to tell anybody.
If you want to leave the room and still record what's going on, you will have to ensure whoever is in the room or enter the room know they are recorded.
If you are carrying the recorder on your person or belonging and you're the one turning it on to record what's said between you and others, no question, you are 100% legal.

Same goes with phone recording. You can record YOUR phone conversation without telling anybody else.
If you have a device recording phone lines while somebody else than you is using those lines, you have to ensure they know they are being recorded. Once these peoples know they are recorded, they don't have to advise whoever they talk to either because 1 person (the one using your lines) is aware of being recorded so the other end doesn't legally need to be made aware.

In the states, the law vary from state to state. Some prohibits it as soon as 1 person might not be aware and some will allow it same as in Canada.

On the phone, some states will require a verbal announcement at the beginning of the call, some will require a discrete "beep" every 10 seconds or so, some will do as in Canada.

That's about it.
 
New Id

Hi,

Well I was running some errands earlier this week in this neighborhood and I came across this ''massotherapy'' sign with some Asians letters,on Atwater near St-Jacques.
The weather was freaking hot and humid,and I thought I might have found an oasis if they'd have Air conditionning.
So I walked in unannounced and as soon as I step foot in I was please to feel the comfortable cool air thanks to the AC.
Anyway,I was greeted by this lovely mid-20's asian wearing a sexy(for me at least) white uniform and smile.
She asked me if ti was my first time-to wich I replied yes.
Her name is Julia,very beautiful,cute little bod 5''5' about 115.
The place is spotless,on top of the handy AC,the showers are big,good pressure,doesn't take an hour for the hot water to run and there's plenty of quality soap.Comfy pro table with head rest.
She started the massage on my back,working her way down.At one point she climbed on top of me,boy I love the feeling of her soft skin on my thighs!:p
Her massage is excellent,she doesen't neglect any bodypart, spending a fair amount of time between the things ,accidently(?) brushing agaist the boys.
After the flip she started massaging my face and ears,working her way down to my arms and upper legs,once again spending some quality time in the zone w/o really touching the balls or pole other than by accident...
She then popped the question:you want massage there too?
Said yes.She replied how much?
I said standard;20$She said noooooo!It's more than that,you want give me more?
I said; sorry Julia but I respect established standards and 99% of mp's accept 20 for hj.I don't offer less,so I don't see why I should give more.
So we both stuck to our guns.No hj,no tip.
Too bad,other than that episode,the rest of the session was rather positive.
I can do w/o a release,I'm no post pubert pimple faced teenager who has to blow is lead everytime he sees a playboy magazine.I can hold myself back-guess I'm getting older.:cool:
I only found out about this thread when I came back home and started a search.Little did I know walking in that I did post a few comments about them and that their girls were greedier than the norm.Small world I guess.
Maybe I would have kept walking.
Will I return?
Nah.
 
New Id

Way to hold your ground Cosmo. As you know, these are the same greedy f%$kers who own Paradise Sante on Laurentian in Pont Viau Laval. Only most of the times they accept $20 for the simple HJ. This 'Julia' took a gamble and lost. A few more customers like this and she'll gladly stroke the baloney for $20 in the future. I for one along with a close hobbyist friend of mine have boycotted these a##holes for well over 1 year now.
 
New Id

Thanks Fellini,

I think the fact that the last post about this place was 8-19-05 says a lot.
Not very popular towards most seasonned hobbyist.
A few years ago I would have bent the knees and give the greedy xxxx wathever she wants.
Not any more.
Unfortunately,I'm sure there are plenty of clients who bow and overtip them.
I join my voice to yours and of course will never return there.
cosmo
 
New Id

this seems irresistable.
also, i like "accidently(?) brushing" the balls a lot.

should I go? a tough one
 
New Id

No way!
Nah,even the climbing is not worth.
Instead,if your willing to venture a little south,for the exact,if not better treatment,go to clinc zen on Tashereau boulvard in Brossard.
Ask for Lilianne.
Same treatment,very clean,AC,showers,classy,sexy beatuful,easy to find and plenty of parking,just by champlain bridge.
AND SHE WILL WAG FOR 20$
THere's a thread about them.
Avoid the greedy ones,support the good ones.
 
New Id

Here's the phone num for zen concept in Brossard;(450)426-0001
Go read my review with Lilianne,one of the best mp I had so far in my 19 year carreer!!!;)
cosmorock
 
New Id

thanks, cosmo.
you are right, we all need to avoid those greedy ones.
for now, my only optios are downtown area. I will find an excuse to go to Brossard. thanks for the info on zen concept.
 
New Idéal $$$anté

Gents! Nice to make all of your acquaintances. I would like to offer my 2¢ worth even though I am new to eforum.xxx. :eek:

From what I have read on these boards the majority of us like good service and aren't afraid to pay for it. However, if you've been in this hobby (me for 14 yrs now) you can't help but tell the difference between someone reaching down to enhance your experience and those that are reaching for your wallet.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

As far as I'm concerned a tip is a tip. If they have a price structure, then this no longer constitutes a "tip".

The younger you are the more inexperienced you probably are, and thus the need for an explanation of proportions.

C'mon in a city of 1 million + there has to be enough demand to go around. So let the quality off service direct our patronage and generosity of tip. YMMV is always going to apply, let it be reflected in the size of our tips.

Personally, I like a massage with a happy ending. Plain and simple. Is it worth $50.00?? Not when you can go to many full service bars and get a bj for $50.00. Granted you don't get a massage, but chances are the massage isn't going to be all that good in the 1st place, and it isn't going to cost an extra $35-$50. :D

We need to quit whining and do something about the way things are getting out of hand (so to speak).
 
New Id

I've been to this place 3 times now, and each time I've went it got even worse! I believe the first time I went was with a woman named Candy. I tiny chinese woman, early 30's. This was my first massage experience ever so I did not know what to expect (this was about 5 months ago) I paid for an hour and was told it was $55 and gave $60...never got the $5 back but I thought whatever. The massage was pretty good and when it came to the turn she started talking about money. After reading reviews, I thought to myself that $30 would be a good tip just for a hj. But she kept on saying, "What? $30? More!" I ended up being suckered for I believe it was something like $50 extra, but I was able to feel her up. After the release, she continued to give me a massage.

The next experience was even worse. I came back because I was hoping to see Candy but ended up with some girl named KIM. She was a greedy money hungry ITCH and I was a stupid little horny bastard to go along with her. She did give a good massage but when the flip came, I started by saying $40 and again, they all say the same thing here. "$40?? C'mon!" so then I say $50, she says $80!" Me being so horny that day I actually agree (I know I know! I couldn't help but think with my dick!" Not only did I end up paying $80 extra, but she made me get up off the table to give her the money. She didn't even take her clothes off and finished me off quick! She said, extra if you want me to take it off. To top this all off, she ended the hour session 15 minutes early!

I haven't gone there in a while until last night where I met REBECCA (BY FAAAAAAAR THE WORST!!!!!!!) I don't know why I keep going there but I do hoping for a better experience I guess. I have been to a few other MP's now so I have a little more experience than the last time. I take a shower and here comes rebecca with her little innocent smile. She convinced me to take an hour massage rather than a 45minute for $5 more. I agreed and she gave a me my massage. The massage was a decent, but not the greatest. I was pretty happy at this point because we were conversing fairly well until the flip came. She asks if I wanted "everything" to be massaged. I say yes and she says "HOW MUCH!?" So I say $30. She then says the same thing all the girls have said, "$30?!!!??!!" with a disgusted look on her face as if I was cheating her!? I looked at her with a confused look on her face because the way she said it was very rude. I said ok, fine and said $50, she goes "$50?!?!?! I will take it all off and make you happy for $100" I said, "$100!!!!??!?!?!? I NEVER PAY THAT MUCH!?!?!?!?!? You know what, forget it, I don't need a to finish!" At this point I should have got up and left, BUT I was thinking with my dick again and she convinced me to stay for $60. (I KNOW I KNOW, STUPID ME!) When we finally agreed, she told me to get up and give her the money, I said no, when I'm done. So she started massage my cock, and I asked her, "What about your clothes?" She says, "Don't worry" 5 minutes later just unbuttons her top and once my hands start feeling her all over, she starts going faster. I say slow down, and she goes faster and starts to moan to rush things. The good part is that I haven't cummed for about 5 days and because she didn't slow down, I ended up shooting it on her hair, face, and clothes!!!! Once it got on her face she stopped jacking me (even though I was still in the process of cumming" And she says, "WHAT THE HELL!!?!?!" I said, " I TOLD YOU TO SLOW DOWN" she looked so upset with cum all over her, and I was lying down with a happy look on my face, glad that I came on her face and hair (AHHAHAHAHA) :laughing: I gave her the $60 I promised, then she says, "PLUS THE $5 for the full hour!" (What a little money hungry B:banghead:) As I was getting ready to leave, her attitude changes back into that innocent chinese girl and tells me next time I will get a surprise and it will be better. I said, "Yeah whatever!" and left.

Last night was officially the last time I will ever go there. SAVE YOUR MONEY AND AVOID THIS PLACE AT ALL COST!!
 
New Id

I went there last summer.
My post his still there I think.
I didn't bulge,kept my cool and gave the greedy **** ZERO $.
And don't tell me they're better than the norm,cause they are not.
So I don't see why I should give/tip more.
A word of advice,don't bring more than what you,re willing to pay for.
example massage 55 + hj 20=75.
Leave the rest of your fortune at home.
Avoid the greedy ones and support the reasonnable ones,cause there are some.
In other words DONT GO THERE!
 
New Id

Dude...how could you pay $60 for a hand job.....that's retarded....Atleast you busted a nut in her hair....
 
New Id

Still remain firm on my stance. Avoid this place gentlemen..they are greedy f%$#ers!:D
 
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    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who
  33. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese girl Amanda, Candy, Sasha, Ocean, Grace, Yuki and Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan ☎️:905-851-4888
  34. See You Health Center:
    Judy 💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2”tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons 🥑 Cici💕 Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎ 416-988-2950
  35. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami💕 Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5’ 2” tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style🥑 Linda💕 She is Vietnamese Very Spicy Sexy Girl Beautiful Face 🥑With Exotic Eyebrow Shape Suki 💕 From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎ 647-446-0886
  36. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  38. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa: EVA (12pm-9pm), Student, half Korean/Half Chinese, baby face 24, C Cups, curvy body, juicy ass, bbbj cim dfk cof, cutie with great service. Come and enjoy! KITTY (2pm to 9pm ): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  39. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Rita🥰A brand new girl from Northeast China of Russian descent has just arrived, a young sexy beauty with smooth white skin, natural 32C breasts with big juicy nipples and fantastic tight little bum bum waiting to be kissed and spanke
  40. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: JULIA & LUISA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. LUISA is a young,pretty, and slim Spanish senorita with slight curves and a hot hot hot attittude. SUNRISE SPA
  41. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY, NAYLA & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall
  42. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4” tall with nice responsive 34C’s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra..
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CICI is a young, slim & beautiful Chinese gem, petite 5’2” & 100 Lbs with firm but soft C Cups & the absolute best of services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  45. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 college student lily and Asian girl Jenny Amy in Tuesday &&Persian girl Jasmine in Wednesday
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click On Username and FOLLOW US✅ Today 🌸Yoyo🌸Luna🌸Fran🌸Brandy🌸Susan ☎905 - 265 - 2158☎️
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5’1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 LUCY, ASHA, SANA, ANGEL, MEERA, JIYA, PAYAL PEARL, NISHA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25’s and Young fun Ivy with big buttocks open mind 30’s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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