Massage Parlor Reports

[Miki Takei]

Rio always made me feel welcome and I never felt that they took my business for granted. The location was bad as I hang out in some of the bars in the neighborhood. I hope they resurface.

 

[lex_r0x]

I'm for that, oh, but is a double header not the same two pops? Hmmmm, my bad, but was hoping :{(grin)

Wet dreams,

PW

 

[Juan]

I have heard about the MP with the Latinas in the neighborhood near AU, but havn't been able to figure out where it is based on the posts. I'd PM someone for details, but frankly half the fun for me is figuring it out on my own. All the MPs I've been too have been exclusively filled with Asian girls (who for some reason are almost always exclusively Korean). Interestingly enough this phenomena isn't limited to just the DC metro area, but rather pervades almost every city I've visited in the US. But I'm sure you already know this.

I've had luck with the Backpage scene again so I'm filling my non-asian needs that way. Although one of these days I might end up PMing you for more details on these "non-Asian MPs". I was having a rough time a few weeks back with finding anyone who looked remotely like their ad pics. Recently, I've been having a lot more luck (even though I havn't been following the good advice that was posted on the BP thread).

As for the post from FunGuy3. I was just trying to figure out where they were coming from. The stuff that he / she posted on the BP thread didn't make any sense either.

 

[Brian J]

When a cop is shot, no one should care, since being shot at is part of his job.

When journalists get kidnapped and beheaded in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, no one should care, since they knew what risks they were taking.

When a woman walking down the street gets mugged, no one should care, since she knew what risks she's taking.

When a woman walking down the street gets raped, no one should care, since she knew what risks she's taking.

 

[Jorbie]

I'm not sure but I believe he's talking about house and tip

 

[Maria M]

As I was getting acquainted with May at Orange (see my review in previous posting), I found out that she's from NYC and works in DC when she needs the money. I asked her why she doesn't just work in NYC and she said that nobody there will hire her because "they have younger and more pretty girls."

Just goes to tell you: DC AMP may have very dim light of reappearing, but it's the has-been's and left-overs that NYC rejected.

Makes me want to make a trip to the Big Apple now.

Peace...

 

[shaycos]

and with no menu available can you tell me what I am suposed to pay for what service.

I know for the "normal" no big deal service I usually pay:

20 for a massage
40 for a hand shake
60 for a kiss
80 - 100 for the gusto

Does this sound correct? I do not feel a MP FS is worth more the a $, generally, but there are exceptions!

PS: I thank you for being patient with me as I learn these strange customs.

 

[shadow_nochbvolk]

I understand all sides of this debate. And, in all honesty, to a certain degree, I agree with them as well.

It's not like a wait person who is paid their tips based off a perceneforum.xxxe from a set and publicly published menu as in a restaurant. Publicly published...on a paper menu...like a restaurant...not an implied fee, a usual fee, or an 'understood' fee. They can usually serve up little more than is on the menu and they typically have little control over what you get.

It's more like the bartender at your favorite watering hole...who easily has the ability to deviate from how the 'typical' customer is treated and pour you a stiffer or better drink or more drinks based off your repeat business or how much they like you or how much you've tipped them in the past. While they work off a set fee also, they have much more control over the AMOUNT of service they provide. I have bartenders that know me and treat me very well when I walk into their establishments because I tip them well.

It's also like your barber, who cuts your hair EXACTLY like you like it, every time, without asking how you want it cut, because you tip them well and you are a repeat customer. My barber does exactly what I want, when I want, and will stay late for me whenever I need because I tip him well.

Now, here comes the quandary...

Notice that this is a service industry, and the 2 major things that make a significant difference is repeat business and increased tips.

You can give a better tip, but if the relationship is not a long term one, it's wasted money. I've given great tips to bartenders in the airport, but then the next time I'm in the same airport bar, I get a different bartender and they give me the same old service the transient customers typically get.

What's the use?

In order to form the relationships needed for increased service (and tips), the spa girls have to stay around longer so they can make the relationships needed to garner the increased tips and clientèle. In order to make this happen, the spa owners have to keep the same girls around for a longer period of time. Naturally that has problems of its own, but if the girls saw something in it for them, they might not want to move so quickly to better pastures.

I remember the old days. I was a very frequent customer of Ginza (you know...the next best spa in DC to Downtown back in the day), and I saw Candy almost exclusively (but not quite exclusively...I liked to check out the new talent). Since Candy was there long term, I saw her for at least a year or more. And the more I saw her, the better treatment I got..and I do mean better! As the treatment got better, I'd giver her an extra .2 at the very best times. Honestly, it made her get even better and do even more. She never knew when she would get it, so she didn't expect it, but she got it when the service hit a high. Consequently, the service got better and better because she never knew when it would come.

So I really understand the desire to tip better for better service. But, we have to get something long term out of it as well, because the increase in tipping has long term consequences. It has to be in conjunction with a longer term relationship and actual better service or it's wasted and drives up the base price because the spas and the girls will begin to expect the increased fee for the same level of mediocre service and unspectacular talent that we seem to be currently getting.

Temper all of this with the economical fact that spa prices have been at the same rate for the 20 years I've been in the DC area. There's been no basic price increase with inflation and no economic fluctuation of prices. This is not the case for any other personal service industry. Even the acceptable tip for wait persons at a restaurant has risen from 10% to 15% to 18% over the past 25 years...and they have MUCH less latitude over what you actually get from the establishment...only in how it is served up. It could be that the AMP talent is going to places that are more willing to account for the economical inflation factor than to those places that are not.

I honestly believe we cannot continue to expect to get the same level of service over the years for the same price. That's just not economically sound. Now, I'm not giving more than the accepted DC norm. I show solidarity with my fellow mongers and will not routinely increase my base price without consensus. However I'm willing to consider some base increases in fees that are commensurate with substantial, long-term, and sustained increases in talent and service. And, with the nature of the business being what it is, I'd need to see these improvements before they would see my increases. I have no problem paying more for quality over quantity.

I will tell you, I've been to other cities in the US and we have the lowest prices of all. However, I believe our fees reflect our quality of talent.

Adding to the quandary is the fact that you can often keep the price the same and get better service if you are willing to sacrifice age and youth. I see a provider in Sac Town that does a straight up PSE...will freak you out! Fee is no more than DC. She's late 30's-early 40's and has been there long term...at least for the past 4-5 years. However, she is extremely enthusiastic and gives a performance you'll rarely see from DC spas!

I don't know quite how to solve this problem or I would have given you a solution. I suspect none of you know how to solve it either. I do know I want the quality, longevity, and service of the providers in DC to increase.

Of one thing I'm certain...the Chinese condos/spas are not the alternative. I went to one that very recently moved and relocated to an office building in Falls Church. Saw Cee Cee. 1.5. Certainly not worth more, if that. And the talent pales in comparison to the K-Girls. And the music made me think I was in a Chinese restaurant...jeez...not the best experience at all.

My interim solution is that I see a Thai girl regularly and only do the K-spa when I can't see her. No table shower (a big disappointment since I consider that to be half the experience), but I get the bulk of experience I'm looking for. Quality, longevity, and, the fee is 1.6...max.

I think the long term solution is for the spa owners to realize they need to provide their customers more of a long term relationship and increased service in order to get increased revenue. But we have to agree to make it worth their while to get more from them...and they have to make it worth our while to get the increased fee. However, this level of negotiation increases our vulnerability to LE.

Thus the quandary.

 

[dancergirl]

Hi all. As a first time poster let me just say I am loving this forum, learning all that needs to be known in the mp scene. I was just wondering which mp you were talking about as I would love to try out a Thai girl instead of the usual Koreans. Also if you don't mind could you let me know the stats of this girl? I would really appreciate it and I'll let you guys know how it goes!

 

[James B]

Is IHC still requiring the full tip upfront?

BigTigg

 

[Elle Z]

This is my first post so I am not entirely sure about the symantics (sorry didn't care to read the forum rules - if there are any).

Any ways, went to see Nikki at Sensual Massage http://yoursensualsessions.com/

This was my first experience of having a massage (sensual or otherwise). It was an amazing experience and made me regret why I hadn't ever considered this before.

Nikki is beautiful. She is more beautiful than her pictures on CL or on the website (how often can one say that)

Her place is very nice. Clean and proffesional. She has a very soft voice. She gives the best massage. Takes her time with every muscle. She talks enough to keep you in the mood but not too much so as to distract from enjoying the moment.

THE ENDING. As you can imagine was sueforum.xxx. She is NOT an escort so you shouldn't expect everything. But she is very accomodating as well. She was very eager to please. And was very patient (first time it took a while to get the little guy on seforum.xxxe

HIGHLY recomended.

 

[embracexthexpale]

I think somebody asked about Green. I drove by this morning just to check-it out and the door still has a sign that says "closed for renovation"...so 1333 still out of operation.

Also, my Olympic weights were'nt working so I called warranty. I was forwarded to what sounded like a cell phone voice mail. Interesting.

If anyone knows whether I can get direct in store service for my weights, would be great. Would be like spending a day in Rio getting a good workout.

 

[nu mummy]

They weren't very discreet posting on CL every day, Dupont as well.

 

[Sudhir S]

I was in the neighborhood having a few beers and saw that the doorbell light was out at RIO and the door was dead bolted.

 

[MissTee]

I wish 14k was still open. does any amps have the price and type of service 14k offered

 

[Pompal 09.]

The post you are referrring to used those terms to refer to H&H.

 

[the cool muslim]

I visited the Green spot last night. Without a hitch I might add.

I arrived around 9:30P and was shown to room #3. I was told I had to wait a few minutes because the shower was busy. No biggie. After a little while Kay came in and gave me a hug and ushered me to the shower. It's been a while but she remembered me. Amazing. Shower went fine, water was good and hot and the usual cleaning was had. Special attention was paid to a couple of areas but we all know it's good to be clean.

Bach to the room I stretched out and I started to relax. I got a very good massage with attention to every place that was tense. I had had an awful day and needed a little are&are, even if it was only for an hour or two. Kay was definitely on top of her game.

I was asked to flip and I complied. She started the boob (which are maybe a be-cup) massaging and started rubbing my chest. Then she moved down a bit and we were off to the races. A missionary showed up and we spoke for maybe 10 minutes, after that we walked the dog but that went rather quick.

After that, hot towel, for my face and another location. She asked if I wanted something to drink (Coke, Ginger Ale, etc) but I declined. After that I left. 70 minutes on the clock when I was done. Not too bad. I've been out the door in 45 min before so maybe Monday night is a good night. We shall see.

Attitude : 8
Service : 9
Time Management : 9
Looks/girl : 8 (she's a little big in the middle and she does have a kitty with some hair...)
Repeat Probability : 8

Cabbie!

PS There was some activity in one of the parks on my travels from the McPherson Square metro stop. Could have been nothing....just an FYI.

 

[Mommy to my Kailyn]

You have 4 posts, and 3 of them were this one repeatedly posted. You will have to discover the location on your own.

With all the activity in DC, Bmore, and NOVA, we are all a bit skeptical of new people. Sorry about that, but can't help you on this one.

 

[nirvana]

BBull,

I was joking man.

PC out

 

[Riley]

Thanks for the update, exclient.

PM sent.