Lower back pain - help!!!!!

[S3AN]

I found that yoga and/or pilates helped me tremendously with my back pain - course, I imagine it depends on just what the exact cause of your back pain is, but the yoga strengthened my back so much it can take a lot of bending and twisting now with hardly any discomfort. Hope you find relief - back pain is awful

 

[SIMON G]

Hi smashed Dragon i hope things are now much better for you!
please do give us an update.

hope this helps

Do continue to get deep massage to unlock lumber and help allow lenghthening process to begin and surpress holding pattern(muscle memory)

Do stretch and Lengthen lumber muscles to reduce excesive curve.
Do stretch and Lengthen hip flexors to reduce anterior pelvic tilt.
Do Get your core stability muscles assessed and strenghened by an expert.

Frequency and duration of stretches.= Muscle length will only increase if the stretch often enough for long enough, so build up slowly to 2 sessions per day of increasing duration making morning for gentle stretching and evening the longest session.(never stretch into pain).3 times a week stretching will not encourage muscle tissue to lenghten enough.

Do not do any strenghening for your back muscles they are already strong and tight and possibly adversly inhibiting your core stability.

Its very unfortunate but your favourite hobby is highly likely to make matters worse avoid heavy lifting whenever possible.
try the above before assuming anything dreadful is happening.

Stretch and survive steve

 

[Dersilbhild]

Hi.

This is a very long thread. But the correct one for my post.

Just to be specific here, I would like to know your views about the disk injection for sciatica.

I know about it. And have read a little.

My doctor was not helping my back, nor was he very interested in my feelings.

I am moving house and will be getting a hopefully better doctor who has more interest in his/her patients.

My fluctuating sciatica has never been in my legs for about over a year now. nor my bum either.

just at the side of my hips some, but has now started effecting my groin and sometimes my testical!

ouch!.

it can move sides tho. both hip and or testicle!

Im quite confident I have no testicular dis-ease as the pain always matches my back pain.

Im healthy & use all kinds of herbs and health supplements, usualy from raw plant for, not pills or extracts.

So. does anyone have any experience with the disc injection?

appologies I dont have time to read the whole thread right now.

Thanks.
Gemini soul.

 

[Six T 9 lover]

Thanks.

When I said "hip" I actully meant "nearer the hip part of my bottocks" as opposed to nearer the back part.

And yes. it is sciatica.

I had it bad in the leg.

But it dissapeared for a long time.

But as I sit driving all day... Thats when it seems to hurt... when sitting.

I did have a fall that I do belive was a contributuion to the cause, besides lifting and driving.

Ive had treatment.
But I dont feel right with my doctors previous, and its important for me to have good communication and understanding, which I hope I will get from my next doctor.

Anyways.. I will do a search under sciatica.

I have a few detailed books about it and dont come here uninformed.

I just wanted an opinion about the injection that clears way some of the inside of the disk? around the nerves and allows them more space.

Not shure your brief report matches up with those in my books and other stuff ive read...

But I will re-research it all.

Thanks again.

If I continue this I will do so in a sciatica thread more appropriately.

Regards
Gemini

 

[hjlyebke]

Short of drawing pictures, I think we're going to struggle on this.

Strictly speaking sciatica is pain deep in the back of the thigh. Anatomically speaking the 'leg' is between the knee & the ankle.

With the little information given all I can do is make a 'best guess' & advise as best I can. That said it is the sort of thing that osteopaths spend treating most of every working day. I'm guessing that the books you've checked out are biased toward conventional medicine, in which the diagnosis may be the same, but how to address will most likely be different.

In actual fact it is in current national GP guidelines to refer to a manipulative therapist, such as an osteopath for just this sort of problem, in the absence of nerve compromise. Pain doesn't count, so it would need to be weakness of a muscle group or loss of reflex, etc.

A brief version of the guidelines are here - http://www.rcgp.org.uk/clinspec/guidelines/backpain/backpain19.asp

With regard to the proposed procedure your considering, do you have any web references on the subject. I will happily take a look for you & if it's something new, then I aught to know about it anyway.

The closest that I can think of at the mo is the one where they insert a hot wire into the middle of the disk to cook it, which shrinks the disk.

Given a bit more history & detail it is sounding more like a disk injury.

What treatment did you have & have they done an MRI scan?

Please remember that the Internet is also known as the greatest source of misinformation, so be careful where you look. []

Andrew.

 

[The Dark Knight.]

Thanks.

My doctor never sent me to see anyone.

And the only time I was referred to anyone, i was on a 6 month waiting list.

So I went private. Had a few sessions with a woman who cracked? or manipulated my back in a certain "hold" position to both sides. This happened about 3 sessions, and it hurt more slightly after... but a few weeks later all seemed well.

Then it fluctuated, and then dissapeared.

only comming now slightly fluctuately.

My doctor said the natural shape of my back is curvy, so I am prone to this apparently? and will have to accept it.

Which is not very helpfull when Im paying my taxes for britsh healthcare and there is no real caring.

To be as specific as memory allows me, and only as accurate as I can generaly...

The diagrams In my book, and writing mentions something similar to what you described with a rod? but it is an injection that deteriorates a small radius around the nerves, which allows more room, but does not weaken the back structure.

If my pain is fluctuate and only now effecting certain areas, im confident that in the right area, (if it could be located) this would be a good move.

Unfortunately my doctor informed me that it is impossible to locate any sciatica problem areas. And a cat scan, or other type of scan would be pointless.

I had an X-ray and obviously that was clean.

So... If there is a way to heal this floating dis-ease in my body I want to find it.

There is something in the bottom of my back that is not right and needs correcting. And my doctor has been very unhelpfull.

My body is a biological machine and I feel that even if my back "is" curvy or whatever... There should be some slight alteration that can be designed to remove the dis-ease, just as any machine can be fine-tuned or adjusted.

Thanks
Gemini.

 

[smiley]

If there was no loss of hieght in the disk, shown on x-ray by having a good space between the bodies of the vertebrae, then that makes it less likely to be a disk injury.

This procedure, although I'm still not sure what it entails, sounds like a disk injury procedure, which in my opinion should not be carried out without definite confirmation of injury to the disk, that only a scan would confirm.

If I were you I would return to the practitioner that had helped you previously. 3 treatments isn't a lot all things considered and they should give you self help advice, that would probably include stretches.

It sounds like you have an 'extention' injury, which is why your lumbar curve is pronounced and this is probably due to the small facet joints at the rear of the spine being 'locked' together. It's these that she would have released for you, that gave relief, but you'll need to keep them moving with stretches & maybe work on posture etc, to re-educate how your low back moves.

That's a lot of if's & maybe's, but trust that you understand that I can only give it my best guess, but this sort of thing isn't uncommon.

Cheers - Andrew.

 

[Levon]

Wow thanks.

That sounds interesting.

Just to note...

My doctor just put me on Diclofenac, 45 tablets for a trial period. They are strong anti-inflammatorys.

I will see how they go. If no better, I will return to the private place, and see what they say.

Thanks again.
Gemini.