Lipitor & muscle pain

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Hi all

I have a new client this afternoon that has been referred by his doctor for widespread muscle pain/spasm that is supposedly a symptom of the Lipitor cholestrol lowering medication he has been prescribed.

Don't know the full story yet, but has anyone had a client with this side effect from Lipitor?
I know the more common side effects are stomach pain, constipation, gas, bloating etc & muscle pain is more rare & serious.

Sure hope the pros of the medication outweighs the cons.

Any thoughts?

Cheers
Oz
 


It's actually more common that the makers of Lipitor want people to know. My doctor told me it's really hard on the liver too.
 


Yes, I have seen clients with unexplained muscle pain... once they went off Lipetor it went away.
 


ditto with clients and my husband and father both experienced muscle pain with Lipitor....I have numerous clients with a myriad of medication issues that are a real challenge for them to manage.

wellnessgarden
 


fatherinlaw has all the side effects of lipitor but won't quit taking it, he's only taking 10mg, and he's 85, he thinks the side efffects are just cause he's old and diabetic. :roll:
 


Agreed, most all of my clients on lipitor have the muscle pain. Meds are complicated - and they complicate life!
 


Agreed!

I also had a client on Lipitor. Seemed like he was always sore! And his tissues were T-I-I-I-G-H-T! Seemed to never get much better, even with a 90-min massage every 2 weeks.

Y'all are right; medications do complicate life. It's because they are TOXIC. Everything must be processed through the liver, and it's the liver's job to carry out complex chemical reactions that basically convert toxins into substances that are not toxic. Our livers are under an incredible amount of stress every day from practically everything, and this is doubly unfortunate, because they are also SO crucial for so many vital functions! I'd be willing to bet that practically every health issue we have originates in the liver, the nervous system, or the colon. Kidneys, too, but they're usually secondary to one of the big three.

Have y'all noticed that if a client is on medication they're usually on like 4-5 different prescriptions? In my experience, these clients usually don't hang around for regular massage, either, they usually get a massage once a year without making it part of a regular preventive HEALTHcare regime. That's my experience anyway...hopefully yours is different!

Personally, I just say no to drugs...of ALL kinds :) (Well, except organic dark chocolate LOL) :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti

PS: It was an MD who taught us about the toxicity of medications! He sees the light :)
 


I have quite a few bi-weekly clients on 20 or more meds. :( It seems the doctors around here love drugs for older folks. It kills me to look up meds, read the side effects, see the next med aimed at dealing with the side effect and having a few more of its own to be dealt with.....using more meds. I do believe that *on occasion* a med is crucial. I just think they are WAY overprescribed, and informed consent is a myth.
 


The pharma cartel rakes in mega billions. They make the oil companies look like beginners.
 


Hehe agreed, with both of you!

FunFact: I heard, at a Fibromyalgia seminar a few months ago, that the Top 10 largest companies of the Fortune500 list are all pharmaceutical in nature, and that the revenues of those 10 combined equal MORE than the TOTAL revenues of the **490** other Fortune500 companies!! (That's pretty goll-dang huge, especially when you figure who all is a Fortune500 company, and how mammoth some of them are; think Coke, McDonald's, hell--Gulf Western, who owns a TON of companies like Proctor & Gamble, etc etc etc...omg!)

It's time people learned the truth, and I love helping to inform them!
We should all put out client newsletters with informative articles that tell the actual truth, and then let them make their own decisions. I bet we can change some lives, just arming the ppl with some awareness :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


My mom just went off her Cholesterol drug. She had been on it for 18 months. She is now in so much pain she can not get down on the floor to play with my 3 year old. It makes me SICK!!! I got her into a great massage therapist (she lives out of state), and that helped a TON. Unfortunately her MD did not feel she was making progress quick enough, she did not contradict him, and put her on Prednazone (sp?) for two months!!! ARGH!!! One drug jacks her up, give her another!!

I am just using it as a role model for what not to do. It just is sad that it is a family member.
 


My brother-in-law and Father-in-law were both on Liptor and had severe muscle pain. Both stopped taking it or replaced it with a new med :? It took SIX MONTHS for my BIL's muscles to stop hurting!
My husband's cholesterol was high 2 years ago, but he didn't want to take prescrips. Our good doctor agreed to let him try a few things first. He stopped "running for the border" at lunch, ate oatmeal, cut out most his usual cheese intake (hey, it was significant- we're in Wisconsin), got more exercise and took red yeast rice supplement ( a natural statin). He lowered his cholesterol 70 points!
Truth be told- we haven't had him rechecked...and his diet has slipped a little, but we know that lifestyle modifications work for him. I realize that it's not the case for everyone... It seems that these miracle pills make us believe that we can poorly care of ourselves and suffer no ill effect. Now allow me to descend my soapbox....
 


I have a client on Lipitor who gets severe night cramps in her calves. Not RLS, but just intense cramps. She says the deep massage I do on her calves seems to relieve it quite a bit.
 


I can't believe I can actually contribute with the professionals! LOL!! I am still a student and I just started clinicals.

I have an elderly client who has had an arthritis-like pain in both shoulders for many months. She tried physical therapy to no avail.

She went off of lipitor with her doctors blessing and it only took a few days for the muscle pain to subside.
 


is it out of line for a massage therapist to suggest that their clients muscle pain may be due to LIpitor?
 


palms_down said:
is it out of line for a massage therapist to suggest that their clients muscle pain may be due to LIpitor?

This can be a very sticky situation. You have to do it in a round a'bout way and it has to be worded in such as way that the therapist is not giving "medical" advice.

For instance.....when talking to a client about muscle pain, you could mention an article that you had read connecting some muscular pain to cholesterol meds and then leave it to the client to draw their own connections.

Angie
 


I ask every client who is on meds and is experiencing difficulties that are not resolving with the usual treatment to ask their doctor for a med review.

It's a good idea for anyone who is taking more than one medication at a time, to have their physician take a look at all meds/dosages on the same page. It's much easier to catch potential problems and drug interactions. With the availability of drug fact sheets on the internet, potential side effects are easy to discover.
 


I just like to remind clients of the listed side effects of Meds and that they should discuss it with the md.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Tina๐Ÿ˜˜ - A sweet tiny little treat from Mala
  32. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  33. KSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: GIGI, NANA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares with her massage and great services. GIGI is 22Yrs with a sexy body, 36C, 110 Lbs and waiting for you. NANA is a cute pretty Korean lady
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HARI, LINDA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž HARI is NEW TODAY. Details to follow... LINDA is NEW TODAY. Details to follow... TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jenny๐Ÿ˜ is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm. She is a
  36. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish girl (Mia) big boobs ass in today &22ys Indian girl and college student girl in Tuesday
  37. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMILY & HANNA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude.
  38. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & LULU 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  39. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Levi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & LUCY AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  43. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, DELIA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups, very excitable and fun. DELIA is young and very pretty, slim with natural boobs and an impressive ass. Her services are very satisfying.. TINA is a Vietnamese girl
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Ruby & SUKI. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. SUKI is a young, slim, beautiful & very sexy lady, about 5โ€™3โ€ with nice soft C Cups. She is very well received for her outstanding gfe services. Be careful, SUKI is highly addictive.
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Vivian 22 years old and young sweet Yuki 28 years old open mind , pretty EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, NISHA, AMANDA, AAVI, MAY, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Mia and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  48. gta_dude2024:
    markham
  49. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  50. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Sunday ๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New white girl gigi๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹kk- petite cutie who is a bundle of fun and pleasure. Jennifer- Friendly school girl with a nice body and matching services to...
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