Chat Has anyone ever turned an innocent RMT bad?

[Sandy77]

Would love to hear about an experience especially about an Asian rmt.

 

[Sandy77]

Or if not is there any Innocent legit RMT that you would want to turn bad?

 

[throwmeaway]

I remember the nail place NEXT to the old Simple Scissors on 14th when I went in for a massage and the usual HE crew was busy day doing nails with other customers. So I got the slightly older Asian woman who clearly was not in the game.

I asked about an ending a few times, knowing I had received them from the others there. She said she wasn't allowed to, and seemed super paranoid the other women there would find out. But eventually she gave in saying "ok, only because you're student and you need to relieve your stress".

After it was all done she stuffed the Kleenex in my pocket and said you need to take this with you and bolted out of the door. No extra charge sought or considered for the HE.

 

[throwmeaway]

Oh, and did get a receipt. Not sure if she was a real RMT or just sharing the number.

 

[Crosby22]

I was in Medicine Hat like 10 years ago or so, And there was an older Asian lady that did massage , Probably at least in her 50s for sure, decent Looking for her age with awesome tight booty, Fairly good English, Draped massage, pretty good massage , on the flip was clearly aroused under blanket, I looked at her and said sorry I can’t help it, and she said that’s fine, it happens all the time, Then I said that’s why I need a girlfriend to get rid of that, and she said you don’t need a girlfriend they’re expensive you can just do that yourself LOL and I laughed and said I don’t do that, then near the end of the session I couldn’t help but notice her kept staring at it, And I asked if I can remove the blanket, and she said what for ? And I said to get rid of that… And she said no no I don’t do that! And I said well can I? And she said really? If you must, As soon as she seen it she was in shock and was like OMGOMG that’s huge it’s so big in her little accent and couldn’t help but grab it within probably 15 seconds of me doing it and continued to say omg omg as she was making me happy , she later told me she’s only been with her husband and he was the size of a pack of Life savers LOL It’s funny because then I seen her a couple years later and she was divorced and dating a white guy LOL

 

[Paddywack]

What started as an occasional HE has progress to FS with the massage therapist I go to

 

[Albertaman]

The progress is usually mapped out by the provider, to help her increase her cash flow, as on the other end, past customers who had moved to the FS level move on to newer, younger providers. Each client feels that they are chosen.


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[heythereuqt]

What started as an occasional HE has progress to FS with the massage therapist I go to

I need to find a massage therapist like this!

 

[welldunn66]

To find them and locate the gem, you yourself need to xxxplore the many places out there. When you find one that is decent, complete about 3 to 4 more visits within 3/4 months to keep relevant and build rapport. Then things may change with that provider.

 

[Albertaman]

To find them and locate the gem, you yourself need to xxxplore the many places out there. When you find one that is decent, complete about 3 to 4 more visits within 3/4 months to keep relevant and build rapport. Then things may change with that provider.

Nicely explained. On the frequency, if one can accommodate 2 or 3 visits a month, or weekly, within one's affordability, it helps. Most providers are looking to have steady income versus good weeks followed by bad weeks.


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[Guy2013]

To find them and locate the gem, you yourself need to xxxplore the many places out there. When you find one that is decent, complete about 3 to 4 more visits within 3/4 months to keep relevant and build rapport. Then things may change with that provider.

If you plan to turn a truly legit to the dark side you better be ready to invest more than 3 to 4 visits. One that come to mind I visited close to 15 times before anything of note took place, at first nothing, then after a while I would casually move towel to expose a bit more of myself, eventually got to undraped. After that would be at full attention when she was massaging front, would ask her to work high up on legs in groin area as I had sports injury, couldn't avoid brushing the boys. Next I asked for more work on lower abdomen, couldn't avoid brushing up against the LG. before long she didn't even bother avoiding it. One day I placed her hand on it, at first she said no, then had second thoughts and went to town, made me swear to NEVER tell anyone, have kept that promise and still see her occasionally,

 

[welldunn66]

Everyone, keep in mind every one is different. There are no hard fast rules to this. Each person and lady have their tolerance level and comfort level before moving to the land of milk and honey. YMMV. My xxxperience is about 3 to 4 visits because me and the ladies were able to reach that level. I am not charming by any means but I know some members here are. They even hangout like a date outside work. You know who those members are............those are the lucky ones.

 

[Deleted member 79939]

Would love to hear about an experience especially about an Asian rmt.

Yes.
Most provinces .
Not Ontario.

https://www.cmto.com/assets/Reminder-RMTs-are-Prohibited-from-Treating-their-Romantic-Sexual-Partner.pdf

 

[Deleted member 79939]

Everyone, keep in mind every one is different. There are no hard fast rules to this. Each person and lady have their tolerance level and comfort level before moving to the land of milk and honey. YMMV. My xxxperience is about 3 to 4 visits because me and the ladies were able to reach that level. I am not charming by any means but I know some members here are. They even hangout like a date outside work. You know who those members are............those are the lucky ones.

Reminder - RMTs are Prohibited from Treating their Romantic/Sexual Partner
The College of Massage Therapists of Ontario (CMTO) is committed to preventing and addressing the sexual abuse of clients by Registered Massage Therapists (MTs or RMTs). It is CMTO’s responsibility to protect the public from abuse by Massage Therapists and we take any allegation of sexual abuse very seriously.
The Regulated Health Professions Act, 1991 (RHPA) is designed to eliminate any form of sexual behaviour between regulated health professionals, including RMTs, and their clients. Even if the client “consents” to or initiates the sexual behaviour, it is prohibited for the RMT and considered sexual abuse under the RHPA.
The term “sexual abuse” is defined broadly in the RHPA; any sexual behaviour with respect to a client is deemed to be sexual abuse. The RHPA defines sexual abuse as:
• sexual intercourse or other forms of physical sexual relations between an RMT and a client;
• touching, of a sexual nature, of the client by an RMT; or
• behaviour or remarks of a sexual nature by an RMT towards the client.
It is important to remember that RMTs, like most health professionals, are prohibited from treating any person they have a sexual and/or romantic relationship with, including their spouse. Even if the individual “consented” to the relationship, it is still considered sexual abuse under the RHPA. There is no exception in the RHPA.
While you cannot practise Massage Therapy or engage in any kind of therapeutic relationship with your spouse or romantic/sexual partner because it is considered sexual abuse under the RHPA, normal physical touching that takes place within your spousal/romantic relationship would not be considered the practise of Massage Therapy, and so would not be captured in the sexual abuse provisions of the RHPA.
In Ontario, performing Massage Therapy treatments on a
including a register.
romantic/sexual partner, All findings of sexual abuse are posted permanently on CMTO’s public
Registration.
spouse, is grounds for mandatory revocation of an RMT’s Certificate of
For more information, please review the Standard for Maintaining Professional Boundaries and Preventing Sexual Abuse.
Remember, if you suspect that a client has been sexually abused by an RMT or by any registrant of another health regulatory college, you are required to report it.

 

[Albertaman]

Not sure if the question can be clearly answered. How do you know if a RMT is totally innocent or not? Talking about Alberta, there are sufficient numbers of RMTs that may straddle the line between totally professional, and the not so totally professional. It's a question of how much some veer from the straight and narrow? Making a client feel special is part of the art. So the one who appears innocent may not be as innocent as you presume. Some may veer a little bit, and offer a HJ time to time. Maybe not for the extra dollars, but just to insure that the client repeats regularly. Some may progress to mutual touching with select clients only. Sometimes it may be to satisfy mutual needs. Usually, it's the extra cash flow that becomes addictive to the provider. A few may progress to full services, again for select clients only, and the added cash flow becomes compelling, and almost necessary after a while. IMO, it's not the clients that will be leading the provider astray. It's the provider who will have decided to leave innocence behind, and the client is now part of that story. The provider is making a personal choice as to her services and her monthly earnings. The clients are there to deliver the accumulative earnings. Possibly, the clients are the ones giving in their innocence


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[Deleted member 79939]

Not sure if the question can be clearly answered. How do you know if a RMT is totally innocent or not? Talking about Alberta, there are sufficient numbers of RMTs that may straddle the line between totally professional, and the not so totally professional. It's a question of how much some veer from the straight and narrow? Making a client feel special is part of the art. So the one who appears innocent may not be as innocent as you presume. Some may veer a little bit, and offer a HJ time to time. Maybe not for the extra dollars, but just to insure that the client repeats regularly. Some may progress to mutual touching with select clients only. Sometimes it may be to satisfy mutual needs. Usually, it's the extra cash flow that becomes addictive to the provider. A few may progress to full services, again for select clients only, and the added cash flow becomes compelling, and almost necessary after a while. IMO, it's not the clients that will be leading the provider astray. It's the provider who will have decided to leave innocence behind, and the client is now part of that story. The provider is making a personal choice as to her services and her monthly earnings. The clients are there to deliver the accumulative earnings. Possibly, the clients are the ones giving in their innocence


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Ask her out for a movie or concert or dinner .

 

[Albertaman]

Ask her out for a movie or concert or dinner .

Naive.

The therapists that I'm thinking of work 7 days a week, and are totally focused on putting away their earnings, as they realize that they have a finite time (age, appearance, stamina etc). Progressing from 'auntie' stage to 'granny' stage is not kind in this profession. Their principal focus is on being available for clients that are regulars, and for respectful clients that help them add to their retirement funds at a reasonable pace. Movies and dinners are for the birds. When they are closer to retiring, some may be interested in more permanent relationships, but not now. An experienced hobbyist needs to have a sense of these things. A good client who understands and does not get obsessive is often rewarded in the most unusual ways


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[Coffeelover23]

Ask her out for a movie or concert or dinner .

Very slim chance, but one can hope. The variety of what one can achieve is limited to where you are. If you are attending a private home, you can build a rapport in the time you are there, but it starts and ends there. We would all do well in remembering that. More often than not, the therapist has a boyfriend or partner.

 

[Albertaman]

IMHO, home based operations where family resides are the worst locations for this. Calgary still has potential with a few therapists, usually Asian, who don't have a significant other, or who work outside their home. But information is only shared between those who trust each other.


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[Albertaman]

Over the years I have seen this topic come up time to time. About turning an innocent therapist on to other activities. With experience, I think it is the other way around. Most men, including myself are relatively naive and innocent when compared to most female therapists in the massage business. . So if you think you are turning an innocent therapist on to more special things, chances are she is the one that is really in charge, and you are losing your innocence. It's a game that is played well by many therapists. And we suckers buy into that illusion, willingly. I've posted a note on Edmonton chat on this subject. No therapist, even the ones who might only have 2 or 3 male clients per day is blissfully unaware of all the possibilities. They may choose to stay on the strict, narrow path. Or they may selectively choose clients to pursue some special activities, usually for improved cash flow, and infrequently for a combination of cash, and personal satisfaction. Due to our egos, most men who are in this situation think that they have somehow succeeded in a special seduction. Be assured, in 100% of the cases, it's the female therapist that has taken away your innocence, one more time ))))))))))


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