Bartering - how much do you do?

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I barter for a LOT of things! Bodywork of course, but also housekeeping, voice lessons for my daughter, childcare for my other daughter and recently for graphic design and signage, and professional framing for a painting I got on eBay.

I love the barter system, cause it allows me to get what I need without a cash outlay. On the other hand, sometimes my week is filled with barter clients and not many paying clients! :shock:

I need to be careful how much I wish for! :lol:
 


I do a little, a very very little. I trade with the lady who owns the children's-clothing consignment store -- we basically pay nothing for clothing or playthings for our son. And I occasionally trade with a woman who owns a couple of large luxury vacation rental homes. Every now and again I take my whole family (8 people if my side, 10 if my husband's side) for a long luxe weekend, paying nothing but food and gas, and it is heaven. None of us do "real" vacations these days, between ailing parents and small children, so 3 or 4 getaways a year is a great recharge and something I'm very willing to give up cash for.
 


Hey Amy,
I barter for guitar lessons, personal training, horseback riding, and I'm hoping my new CPA will barter with me. And of course I trade massage with a couple other MTs.

I love the whole idea because although there are weeks that seem heavy with barter clients, each one of those people knows a whole lot of other people! I'm hoping my guitar teacher, who comes in for his first massage next week, will tell his bandmates and the other guys at the shop where he teaches. My personal trainer is also another good potential source of referrals.

I figure barter is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising.
 


Currently: Chiropractor, carpet cleaning (we have 4 pets), web site design and maintenance, with someone to sit at the desk on Xmas and Valentine's Day and sell gift certificates.
And naturally, with other Mt's.
In the past: cleaning lady, lawyer, personal trainer, electrician, Feng Shui practitioner, yoga instructor, esthetician.
I would really like to trade with a Dr or a nurse at a medical spa to get certain procedures done (like laser hair removal).
I don't schedule trades during "prime time" when I get a lot of demand for massages.
 


Ella Menneau said:
Hey Amy,
I figure barter is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising.

Very good point!

I forgot I've also bartered with my chiropractor, for yardwork, jewelry, hair services and I just got a far infrared body wrap a few weeks ago. It was *awesome* BTW. :)

I use CL a lot to find barterwork!
 


I barter with my hair stylist. And once in a while trade for bodywork. Although generally I pay for that.

jason
 


jasond said:
I barter with my hair stylist. And once in a while trade for bodywork. Although generally I pay for that.

jason

Me too.
Also bartered for my wedding photography!
 


I don't barter. I just find more respect for the work comes with an exchange of money. I did trade for massage but after some sessions that weren't effective I ended it and go elsewhere for different work.

My hair/facial person wanted to barter but I don't like feeling committed to go to someone if I don't want to. It's just my committment phobia. :lol:
 


P.S. I don't trade for bodywork.

EM I hope you find that barter is a good source of cash referrals. I have not found that for me -- just more people who want to trade. But then like I said I am not into trading very much -- I am very selective.

I schedule my trade folks whenever they want to come in, including prime hours. It's what works for me.
 


I also don't barter. I prefer the simplicity of cash transactions. If I value something, I'm willing to pay for it. And when people receive my bodywork, I prefer cash that I can spend anywhere, rather than a credit with one specific person for one specific service.

I respect those of you who like to barter; it's just not my thing.
 


I dont trade for bodywork, when it comes to that I cherish being a real paying client, and to be treated like one!

I do, however, enjoy bartering for luxuries that I dont usually shell out the money for.

My most ongoing trade is hair and beauty supplies from one of my best clients. I am constantly changing color and cut, and have vowed to never pick up tweezers again, and I'm a product junkie at heart (I buy the cheap stuff, but its no BedHed or Joico).
I trade for profesisonal signs and banners, gorgeous handmade jewelry, expensive makeup and this spring I'm trading for laser teeth whitening, something I would NEVER spend that kind of money on - but a few home visits for the dentist and her hubby and I'm taken care of. Gotta love it.
 


I do barter. It is a great way to get some items that one may not have the cash layout for at that time, or just a good way to do business in general if both parties treat each other with respect.

So far I have bartered with my hair stylist, Rolfing sessions, a logo and corporate identity, feng shui of the office, cabinet building, picture framing, martial arts training, acupuncture, dental work and have in the works a local diner owner who is interested in bartering for a few free meals (YUM!).

There are probably more things I have bartered for over the years, but these are the things that come to mind today.


I'd love to barter for an i-pod, but haven't found anyone for that yet. :)
 


I barter for massage, but mostly with friends who I like to hang out with anyway. We get to spend time together and get massages. It's pretty cool.

I also bartered for food at a nice massageplanete. The food was more expensive than I would usually eat (on a regular basis at least), and they always had good live music and outdoor seating. I'd massage the owner twice a month (she had been my client when I was a student, and she LOVED me), and hubby and I would get one nice meal out per week. OR I could have lunch myself there almost every day. Also, she wasn't a real stickler about the exchange. I could pretty much eat there whenever I wanted and she would get more massages to cover it.

Ahhh...I liked that. Wish I had something like that now, too. The food was GOOD!
 


I'm definitely selective, and don't barter if I get bad vibes. But with a tight budget, it's more likely I will enjoy more bodywork via trading with a few close LMT friends. It's more likely my daughter will get private voice lessons. It's more likely I'll have help with house cleaning and office cleaning.

As I said though, I'm careful with whom I commit my time and I wouldn't hesitate to refuse future barter with someone who didn't follow through the way expected (as in poor bodywork or other services).

And while it is true that some people don't hold bartering in the same light as cash exchange, some of us DO hold it - AS importantly. Barter is the original method of currency. It's worked for millennia, and still does when approached from the right place.

Certainly to each his/her own! ;)
 


Question (and if this needs to be a new thread, let me know)

Say I want to barter with someone who's hourly wage is less than mine. Like I want to get some housecleaning. Do you do $ per $, or hour per hour?

A couple of you have mentioned trading for housecleaning. Can you give details of how your barter works? (My husband and I are disagreeing about how it *should* work and I wouldn't want to be demanding something unfair right off the bat.)

I think it should be $ for $. If she charges $20/hr and I charge $65, so about 3.25 hours of housekeeping equals one hour of massage. Hubby thinks it should be hour per hour, which just doesn't seem right to me. But is it? When I pointed out to him that if she did 4 hours of housekeeping in one week, I'd then owe her 4 hours of massage in that week...he agreed that didn't seem right either, but wasn't willing to agree on the $ per $ thing either.

Thoughts?
 


shivashiva said:
Question (and if this needs to be a new thread, let me know)

Say I want to barter with someone who's hourly wage is less than mine. Like I want to get some housecleaning. Do you do $ per $, or hour per hour?

A couple of you have mentioned trading for housecleaning. Can you give details of how your barter works? (My husband and I are disagreeing about how it *should* work and I wouldn't want to be demanding something unfair right off the bat.)

I think it should be $ for $. If she charges $20/hr and I charge $65, so about 3.25 hours of housekeeping equals one hour of massage. Hubby thinks it should be hour per hour, which just doesn't seem right to me. But is it? When I pointed out to him that if she did 4 hours of housekeeping in one week, I'd then owe her 4 hours of massage in that week...he agreed that didn't seem right either, but wasn't willing to agree on the $ per $ thing either.

Thoughts?

I'd think $ for $, especially in a case of a serious difference in the rates.
 


I do it based on value, with some wiggle room: my guitar teacher charges $25 per half hour lesson. He gets one massage for every three lessons. Trail rides at the barn are $35. Two +/- trail rides is good for one massage.

I have tp agree with EH that both parties must feel as if they are getting a good bargain. In my case, I would not be able to afford to do either of these activities if I had to pay cash, and due to my practice being fairly new, I have the space in my schedule.
 


I try to barter $ for $ when possible, and if it has to be that someone gets the short end of the stick, I'd rather it be me than the person I am bartering with, so I barter "in their favor" when I come across a situation like this.
 


Thanks for the replies! They jive with my gut feeling as well.

Each situation will be different and both parties must be happy. I'd based it on $ per $, but also leave some wiggle room for both parties to be happy. And I'd definitely want the barter to be in their favor if it had to be in someone's.

I'd love to have some help with the housekeeping! That's probably the thing I hate the most. Now to find someone interested in such a trade.
 


I'm amazed this thread was put up because I've been thinking about this ALL WEEK! :lol:

I barter with a couple of people, but it's for hair, massage and energywork.
I want to barter for a few select things with select people but don't know how to get that word out.

For example, I need a house cleaner and an accountant. But I don't want to join a bartering group. A friend of mine is in one of those and her whole week is always full of barters.
 
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    THURSDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  37. ASPA:
    𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa♨️♨️♨️table shower body scrub👍👍👍 every day 3 girlsw,New girl Vicy tiny and cute🔥🔥🔥🔥very good service body slide 😜😜😜 Cici so nice girl very good table shower body scrub 🌹🌹🌹 Helen so good deep tissue massage 💪💪💪💪5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Anika , New Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Jojo ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️4379857899 🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵👄👄
  42. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EVA, HONEY & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
  43. Sparkling Spa:
    32DD, BIG BOOTY SUPER STAR MEXICANA STELLA AND SEX GODDESS ZOE WORKING TODAY @⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️Y🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30 years old and young sweet Tina with curve body, pretty GFE Ella and young Japanese Lily 36 DDD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am,Young Sexy Curvy Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  46. bumika.vashi:
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  47. bumika.vashi:
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  48. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    : JAPANESE SENSATION CHANEL AND SERVICE QUEEN ZOE TODAY @⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️Y🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘
  50. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on wednesday: New Polish gir gigi💋💋angel- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
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