Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

Nice...wish you all the best. If there's anyone on here who's seen it all, it should be you so I wonder what your secret is to keep going after all these years...
It's not me. it's my little KJ. I think about balls, golf balls every day. He thinks about holes and bushes all the time. He woke up swinging this morning again..lol
 
If I recall, Ursus took up photography for a while.

Not sure if it's still substituting for this hobby.

Not unless I'm taking pictures of nude women...now that would be fun!
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
Long ago and not too far away, I took a bottle of very fine red wine to every session with a little hottie called herself Jade.
Lets say the wine was a great catalyst to amazing sessions. The spa BTW at that time had no problem with it.
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
"Make the mood". I believe that there are always some brilliant ideas out there...
Once I was waiting for Renee on the table after enhanced the setup a bit in a funny way.. she was laughing that loud that even took a pic of me (I hope to the her hall of fame:) the session was exceptional too...
There is always something that breaks the ice.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
 
Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
Definitely utilize the edible options available online.
 
I hear you but what can I do outside my comfort zone "at the spa''? Any ideas?

Here's the stage I'm at. You know how much you enjoyed your sessions with Lucy and Coco. Well, if I'm keeping it real, my sessions with them did nothing for me. Don't get me wrong, the place itself was nice and clean, the ladies were pretty, friendly and definitely above average (for semis) but the experience was still very routine for me. Maybe folks are right and I should take a break to recharge...but I know myself. I might slow down for a bit but I doubt I'll exit completely.

...my sessions w/Lucy were always unexpected... really doubt you’d know our timing... maybe u need to let them take charge? Just a thought... she gave me a great shot @ COF finish once, she barely escaped... fun, u know?

...could PAY someone for COF finish, but meh, no mystery there...

...maybe u ironed out all yr kinks? If ever get cured of yellow fever, I’d try black & East Indian spinners... if not, maybe those jailbait chix at QQ... or high end SP... or just those cute Indy Asian SP like Asian Nicole...

...or supermarket milfs like Hangdai...

...how about going to that tiny spa with a few gems & ‘help them out’? The KJ life... lite... bunch of disposable gfs...

...fun finding MPAs that look like friend or colleague... FILF or CILF... therapeutic...

... I’d suggest Pornhub 4 ideas 2 try out, but MPAs way more exciting than porn 4 me...
 
In the past, I averaged about 45 visits to sex workers per year. Now, I am down to about 8 - 10 per year. Visit them when it is in your best interest - time, money, proximity etc. and you will be fine. Also, demand good service and tell the girl what you will pay. I always tell the girl what I will pay. I dont care about her posted price. I saw a girl last month that advertises $400 and I paid her $200. Another girl last year wanted $260 and I paid her $180. Explain to them why you value them at the price you are paying. Dont be rude or aggressive about it. Just state facts matter-of-factly.

In general, dont chase a sex-worker and pay through the nose to spend time with her - that's when it become's worthless. No woman has value except that value you place on her vagina. And as she ages, her vagina becomes alot less valuable than what you might have paid her years ago. Treat a woman, a hooker etc. like a used car and be logical about it. You will be fine if you do that.
 
Thanks for the suggestion and I do want to try this place one day. But correct me if I'm wrong, this kinda place is one where you'll want to spend at least a couple of hours at and right now, I usually don't have that much time.
It’s a great place to hang out for a couple of hours. Have a steam, sauna, hot tub a snack and a cold drink. All included in the price.
 
I used to hobby quite a bit in my younger days. Then after a long hiatus, I ventured back in probably around 3 years ago. As many on here know, I mainly stick with semi-legits as I do appreciate a nice massage and the more casual (i.e. less transactional) atmosphere.

However, lately I'm not enjoying my sessions as much. Mileage is at all time highs so that's not the issue but something is definitely lacking...maybe it's because although I'm getting high mileage at semi-legits, the ladies just aren't that experienced (or good) at these higher level services and I can no longer rely on that 'surprise' experience anymore to get me excited.

The way I see it, I have a couple of options...start venturing into the holistic / SP world with younger, hotter chicks that know what they're doing or just stick with a good massage and basic hj at semi-legits and forgo the higher level stuff. By not being concerned with the mileage I get, it would also allow me to explore and visit more new places (since I would only be expecting a hj anyways). Of course, I could mix it up and do a bit of both too...

Has anyone else found themselves in a rut before and what did you do about it? I'm very interested in hearing other's experiences with this...

Been there. It's simple, change it up. Too much semi legit? Go see an SP, there are so many options... from Leo List to agencies.
 
I generally take a break every 3 months and stay away from things ,then when you start back hobbiying again it seems all new again with new faces and pussy to explore all over again!, not to mention the bank account can regain some !
 
I kind of understand that once starting this hobby,it takes you to different levels and some people based on income have to slow down and most of us are getting even more into it to the point like our friend is saying ,that almost nothing pleases anymore.My self,I went to this stages also in my over 20 years of hobbing where after I would see one girl ,I would think about going to see another as soon as possible,sometimes in the same week.Then I had some years when I slowed down but almost never able to totally get out of it.It's very hard to advise because almost never works the way we think,once we got into this hobby.One think that I could say is that there is always gonna be another one that will create interest for you to the point that it will never end, as long as our blood is running to our veins.Try to think less of this and maybe will help finding the best solution and maybe change something in your life.Stay safe and enjoy life!!
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...

I've always enjoyed exercise regardless of hobbying but I know what you mean about at least trying to look respectable with the ladies...
 
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Haha, pretty sure whatever charm I 'might' have will not make up for my physical deficiencies when it comes to the premier girls...definitely out of my league. But I guess that's a good thing...and I do want to try one day.

That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.
 
That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.

Thanks for sharing your journey...and yes, there's more on the bucket list to check off so I guess I'm not quite done yet 🙂

You may recall some of the advice you gave me way back when I first joined this forum. Looking back, I've come a long way since then. I remember being so caught up with my 'honey'...I was thinking about her all the time (like everyday) and would be so depressed whenever she took her annual trip back to China. She's still one of my faves but I'm in such a better place now. She's been in China for several months now and while I do think about her from time to time, I'm not 'sad' at all. It's a long journey and I guess each of us continues to learn and adapt along the way.
 
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    FRIDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: NANA & NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ NANA is a slim & pretty Chinese lady with liberal services. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. SUNRISE SPA, welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment.
  32. NewOriental:
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  33. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 💕💕 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along 🥑 Sasa 💕 Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service 🥑Judy💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647-446-0886
  34. ASPA:
    𝗙𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗮𝘁 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: 𝗔𝗺𝘆 & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  36. Soul Relax Spa:
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  37. ForeverWarden:
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  38. HolidaySpa:
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  39. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Baby😘🥰 A young, vibrant 22 year old petite spinner from Vietnam with a calm and welcoming presence. Her dark, flowing hair complements her soft, warm smile, creating an approachable and friendly atmosphere. She carries herself with
  40. Moneylee:
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  42. See You Health Center:
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  43. tommyboy_69:
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  44. Endless Joy Spa:
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  45. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 KAVYA, CANDY, SALMA, MALIYA, MONIKA, SANA, PRIYA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today , young sweet slime 30’s and Young fun Tina curvy body open mind, fun GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Lulu1980:
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  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Petite Chinese Lin, Sexy Slim Chinese Kiki, Sexy Chinese Linda, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹3 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 New girl Cherry and Luna 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Vicky deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  50. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Mary💋Lisa💋Coco💋. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly👍💋Please contact 9052375885💋 or SMS 4163565876💋
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