160 is the NEW 200!

I know stamford places are usually around 160 and a lot of the same girls will work there. Where are these 120 places? I am not doubting- I just want to know.
 
now this is a funny comment

you know...most of the girls that work at these 200 places...also work from time to time at non-midtown places and are happy with 120-140. believe me...the service in whatever venue you see them is exactly the same. a girls service is what it is, and a few $ more or less wont change it.
 
A friend that's been in the biz forever actually made a good point though; you're paying each girl for their time, not paying for "doubling your own", if you know what I mean..... So I think it's logical that whatever is standard applies when it's a three-way.
 
Wow, that kinda sucks. I thought I could get a GFE?PSE experience from a KMP if I paid for a threesome. I didn;t know these girls are so health conscious as to expect me to change condoms during mid-fuck.

Final Destination, thanks for the tip. I guess I'll see each one indivdually then.
 
They rarely do lesbian act and it's usually 1 pop period. It also gets tiring changing condoms every time you want to switch girls. Just pay for two girls separately and you'll get more value.
 
Does anyone know in a KMP, if I pay for 2 girls for a single hour, do I get 2 pops, i.e. 1 pop per girl? Does anyone ever have a threesome at a KMP? Do the girls perform any lesbian act with each other in a threesome or would they just wait on you?
 
VC doesn't have a website but they do advertise on CV and CL....I've been there quite a few times over the last 3 months.
 
actually the face looked like sugar to me. now that I have seen the site and more photos, def not her. thanks for the link and they should learn how to spell their own f8cking name.
 
1. that pic of penny doesn't look like sugar to me. sugar is more toned.
2. what is the deal with this velvet curtain place? do they have a website? can anyone confirm that their ads are not b&s?
3. i know here and in cali amp rates are pretty much standard across the board, but down in texas (dallas and houston) rates and services seem to vary at FS amps. oddly, i found that rates and services don't correllate down there anyways ... you could pay $160 for a more gfe session with one girl at one place in dallas (bbbj, msog) and then pay $200 for a more mechanical standard kmp session at another. go figure.
 
While I am glad that $160 places are opening- from what I am told-while biz is off at the $200 places, the girls aren't exactly going hungry yet. Whatever anyone wants to say about the assumptions- even if they get down to 3-5 customers a day at a KMP, the girl can do ok moneywise. And there were always cheaper places.
Will be interesting to see if the newheavens/luxy's follow on price, shut down, or the girls move to the 160 places. My guess is as long as they are doing well enough, they won't. Will have to wait and see. Am curious- anyone know if Tasha at VC is "the" Tasha? Along the lines of Cantinflas post, AMP's may get more interesting too as girls offer more extras to make up for lost volume-- that seems to be my experience lately.
 
Live and learn, but it is easy to see that you are a bright man who speaks with an emotional tongue.

There are ads on CL that have a $100 outcall...
Everyone is feeling the pinch and you better adjust or get kicked to the curb.

The owners had taken a cut $60/$100 or $80/$80, but soon the next wave will be on the girls.

There are quite a number of guys who feel it's just pussy and that whole GFE thing is nothing but a dream. So why not patronize the least expensive place with the decent girls.

My personal evaluation of the situation is that a Massage place (or hybrids) will do better that the F/S KMP, there's more bang for the buck.
You go in, pay the house fee and you decide how much to spend afterwards.

Hey Tastebud, I need someone to be the Voice of my Charity, The Wayward KMP Girls of the Lost Trident. (Girls that think they have Gold between their legs and have found nothing but Lead)
 
It does look like the dominoes are beginning to fall.

Golem, I have been schooled.

I called and although the website is down this does appear to be a new spot, not just another name for VC. The location is near 40th and 9th. I believe VC was 35th and 7th Ave or something like that. That makes two KMP's now.

The girls also look hotter at this location than at VC. This could be interesting.

I guess DB is wrong this time. KMP's will compete on price in a down market.


I will wait and see if the reviews confirm mongers are getting the rush or not.

Curious,
TB
 
FM, you know are my man. I am all about crashing myths. It is myths like these that probably lure young women into the biz.

On the surface it sounds great, get paid fat bank to participate in the most pleasurable activity there is, and do it all day long...

I think if you are a girl with a perfect body, pretty face and you provide excellent service you can still do well but there is a lot of competition in this city so it might not be the piece of cake it appears to be, particularly in a down market.

Peace always,
TB
 
Ok, I am on board- it's a trend. Is that website www. koibotony.com?? doesn't seem to work. Oh and hard to say from just the one photo but penny's photo looks like it could be a lifted photo of sugar.
 
What we have here is an example of excessive supply due to the global economic downturn and the very effective ROK anti โ€“ prostitution laws. Apparently, the opportunities for todayโ€™s business K-girls are restricted. So, they can stay in the ROK and remain under surveillance of the authorities, or travel to NYC where thereโ€™s a reasonable degree of anonymity but a great deal of competition. Therefore, in order to attract customers away from the well ensconced KMPs, they lower their pricing, attract more customers, and increase their revenue.

Another $160 KMP : UNFORGETTABLE SESSIONS BY SEXY ASIAN....*** - w4m (Midtown West)

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/1110325163.html
 
Come one Tbud i was just doing a little monger math...we all would like to think its a perfect world but we know its not

and i did say its $80+...the city is the only place that has those unreal hotel fees...bx is $80 overnight all day lol
 
$80 hotel, are you joking? Think more like at least 200-400 in this town if you want to be close to where the money is.
$80 for two hours maybe at one of those seedy spots.

What makes you think you will get 10 customers? Where do you get these numbers from? What if you only get 2 to 4?

Again, the numbers just may not be realistic.

The job hazards: you might get robbed, beat up, rapped, murdered, HIV, or arrested.

This is a dirty, dangerous job that at this end of the cost spectrum is filled by desperate people with few real options.

This is not glamrous, fun, easy money by any stretch. It is crazy to think otherwise.

High class agencies or girls charging 1G or more probably get better clients, work conditions, and protection while bagging real cash.

We have to stop glamarizing the profession to make ourselves feel better because we want to believe the girls are very well compensated for the shit they have to put up with.
 
I pretty much agree with everything but the skanky hotel, but there is money to be made at any price level.

Price at $200 can be a little high so a 10 customer girl only gets 8 today= $1600

Viewed by some as an attainable price $160, girl gets 10 customers= $1600 and a pussy that's a little more sore.

There is money out there for a new price point, greed is what has us where we are now.
 
One thing is for sure in my head...the price to run an indy business...

Hotel room $80+

Product overhead

Condoms ...free LOL
Baby wipes $5+ $10 bottle of KY
Cell phone $50 per month unlimited WITH TAX (boost phone)
Cheap thongs and bra's $50 per month (ebay)

Cost of product...what product??? lol

Ads budget $20-$100 per working day MAX

10 clients per day x $160 = $1600

Average Profit $1300 per day x 3days per week low side ($2900)

$2900 x 52 weeks 150k+ per year -33% margin for error in my calculations

100k total profit

Any questions?????? LOL
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธEly๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  32. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Ivy big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki and Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  34. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  35. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco, Caribbean Sophie and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years Japanese girl Hannah, 20 years old Japanese girl Amanda, Angela, Lulu, Sasha, Queenie, Ella @ 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, ELENA, CINDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl and Asian girl today
  40. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa: *New today, NANCY: is a young, petite & busty JAPANESE cutie. Nancy is short with a small body, pretty babyface, AV Star type. MAGGIE (10am-9pm) (1pm-9pm) is young pretty & petite. Short & super slim, busty HK student, great massage
  41. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Saturday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  42. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim petite
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’„ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Yoyo is a Very HOT n' Sexy Asian. ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young naughty Yoyo 30โ€™s 36DD with big buttocks open mind and small cute EFG Lina , pretty Ella and young sweet slime Sophia 30โ€™s are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Eva๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜˜Another new addition to the Annie Spa line up!! Eva is a sexy young massage girl from Taiwan ready to showcase her talents. Her touch combines precision and intuition, offering a deeply immersive and soothing experience. E
  50. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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