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I had a procedure called a micro discectomy in July this year and all seemed well after surgery until the twelth day. A tightening sensation developed in my lumbar region and this became progressively worse along with the op site erupting with purluent fluid a couple of weeks later. Eventually the medical profession admitted me into hospital and diagnosed spondolodiscitis as the cause of all my grief. Intravenous drugs were given over a 2 week period and afterwards was discharged with heaps of oral medication. However, my well being has not improved and now have issues in the lumbar region that were not evident prior to surgery. My previous issues have all but gone and have been replaced by difficult to diagnose symptoms (no inflammatory markers in the blood count and MRI images appear clear) of acute back and leg ache along with severe spasms eminating from the base of my spine when I am laid flat sleeping. Standing still is also very uncomfortable with pain increasing the longer I am still.

Has anyone encountered anything similar, my medical advisers just hand out pain relief but give no answers.
 
Oh Bryzer, I am so sorry, sounds like a right painful mess. I don't have any answers just wanted to say welcome and let you know I am sending you positive thoughts for a speedy recovery.
 
Hi Bryzer

Welcome to HP. I am sorry things have not gone right following your op, but I too am not going to offer you an answer.

However, may I make a suggestion that you find a qualified Nutritional Therapist who can help you choose the foods which will benefit your wellbeing? It has been proven that eating the wrong foods can be unhelpful to the healing process.

There is also EFT that might be helpful for healing. Find a therapist here

Hope you start to recover soon. Love, Light and Healing.
 
Sadly, as you will see if you read 'many' of the back threads on this 'back pain' part of the forum, many people have had 'similar' post operative experiences to you, even if their's are not exactly the same.

Serious and previously 'none existent' post-operative symptoms are a common feature of what is 'jokingly' referred to by Medics as 'gold standard spine surgery'. These nerve,
muscle, tissue, tendon, and bone symptoms are due to damages caused during the approch work required to reach the problematic area of the spine. Open Back Spine Surgery and Micro-Discectomy are the most common of these procedures.

The 'Micro' part of the Micro-Discectomy procedure refers to the use of a 'microscope' used to look 'from the outside' at the effected areas in the spine during the operation,
not because it uses the most accurate 'endoscopic' visualisation method to view 'from within the spine itself', nor is it Minimally Invasive Spine Surgery (MISS).
Although the tools used are some times smaller with 'micro' than 'open'

It is still too very early to panic at this time Bryzer, as recovery times from these most highly destructive of spinal procedures are 'usually' counted in months and years!

These new problems may be transitory and might improve as time goes by, so keep as active as possible, record your activity and improvements and as CarolineN says,
seek non invasive thearpies.

Do you own research and make sure that Surgeons take any long lasting complaints and symptoms seriously! These may be caused by exesive scarring or leisions and may require further procedures.

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
Thanks for your responses and encouragement. Just an update on things. Having been a nuisance to the doctors, I discovered my condition is known as spondylodiscitis coupled with an epidural abscess. This wasn't what I had bargained on when agreeing to the surgery prior to this condition. Wonder if anyone else has this condition.
 
I had never heard of this before Bryzer, but did find this great site during research:
http://harms-spinesurgery.com/src/plugin.php?m=harms.ENT02.01R

Your condition sounds gastly! What are the Consultants doing for you?

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
The consultant who performed the discectomy has only had indirect contact with me since my issues following surgery. In fact during my hospitalisation period for the discitis I saw a stand in consultant once and a registrar on the day of my discharge. The support network (post operatively) is very poor. The GP at the local clinic has been supportive and helpful. Nevertheless, even though the consultant (who has yet to do the follow up from the discectomy) is I'm told up to date with regard to my situation. It would have been nice to have seen him, it's been 4 months now.
 
Dammed poor show!!

How are you in yourself Bryzer?

Whats the latest on the spondylodiscitis eradication?

Keep yor chin up butty!!

All the best


SPINELF
 
Thanks for asking about my welfare.Making slow progress, just finished antibiotics and still having blood tests to keep an eye on things. Back always stiff in the lumbar region and night time sleeping always disruptive because of spine and hip ache. Tried pregabilin and amitriptyline with only limited success. Hopefully time will be the healer, little confidence in the consultant who still has yet see me! .
 
Hey Bryzer, time is a great healer! Do you sleep with pillows or memory foam? I used to have to prop myself into position to be able to sleep, also the old hot water bottle was brilliant.

Sending you lots of good positive wishes

Cassie
 
Well, without an imput from your Surgeon (who I think is acting like a coward) you can only make yourself comfortable and await the result of the antibiotics! We all really hope that they work for you, the first time round!!

If you need to see a Surgeon again Bryzer, I would suggest giving the last guy a wide berth and ask around the HP Forum, for help in finding a good Surgeon in your area!

Good luck, best wishes and kind thoughts Bryzer, don't be a stranger!

SPINELF
 
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  39. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  40. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  43. Golden Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ 8380 Kennedy Rd Unit #C6, Unionville Markham ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Misa (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful pretty face, long black hair ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Tracy (New) 22Yrs, petite Japanese, young & pretty face ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ญ Monica (New) Colombian | Thailand, beautiful & shapely ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Sonia | Aniy from India is young & curvy, very pretty, lightly toned...After 9PM ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Mimi | Candy (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly โœฐ GOLDEN FLOWER SPA โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ
  44. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Mia and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  46. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New jap girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Birchmount&14th:
    FRIDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: SUMMER & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is a beautiful, tall, and very versatile Thai lady. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking. LEONA and FRIENDS Birchmount Rd & 14th
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at Sugar Love Spa: Tiffany & Zoey. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey, and can drive you wild. ZOEY is a Euro/Cabibbean mix beauty, 36C with a slim waist & nice bum. Zoey has excellent mouth skills and amazing cfs finish.
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