Worth complaining????

Alex Manson

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This is a bit long winded but I really am at a loss with what to do about this.

Im a 32 year old male.

For nearly a year now ive had all the symptoms of a disc prolapse, upon going to a doctor the 1st time I was told to "live with it, its just a bit of sciatica", I left the surgery quite annoyed and decided to change practice to 1 reccomended by a friend. Upon seeing a doctor at the start of the year I was reffered to a physio who told me he thought it was a disc prolapse and reffered me further up the chain to a specialist. After waiting a while for the appointment I decided that the Co-coldemol was doing me no favours every day of the week and cut back and just put up with the pain at least 3 days a week. When I saw the 2nd specialist he again said it was a prolapse and put me forward for an MRI scan, while there I asked the specialist about the pain killers and also my ever worsening depression due to not being able to work (im self employed and up and down ladders all day) and the only thing proping me up financially was a very understanding girlfriend who has been brilliant during all this. He told me to see my GP about the pain killer situation and also the depression should I need any help. I decided to ride it out as im not a big fan of pills and potions but after my MRI last week I decided enough was enough and went to the doctors with my problems.

What happened next really tested me and my trust in some medical professionals, I went to see a diffrent GP at the same practice I am with, after getting me on the couch he got me to lift each leg in turn and told me that I didnt have a disc prolapse and there was nothing wrong with me, in 90 seconds this GP had gone against 2 professionals who specialise in backpain and may as well have laughed me out of his office. When I bought up my depression he didnt even answer me so I just walked out of his office.

I went home wondering about my own sanity, had I been imagining all this for a year, all those times in Supermarkets walking round in agony, had I just made them up in my head? and also had the 2 diffrent specialists I had seen really been that bad at their jobs. I phoned the last specialist I had seen and he was as helpful as he had been when I 1st saw him, 5 minutes after calling him he phoned me back and said ive looked at your scan and you have a bad disc prolapse that will if you dont get any better need surgery.


Do you think I have grounds for a formal complaint about this doctor? The thing is I dread to think how many other people have seen this GP with back problems who may well be getting on with their lives and doing themselves no good whatsoever. Ive been in touch with the surgery and they said if you think you have grounds for complaint do it writting to the surgery manager, im not sure if this will do much though as he is a senior doctor at the practice who may well just get the benefit of the doubt over little old me.

Many thanks for reading my long winded post.
 
I would certainly complain and here is the reason why ... In November 2007 I started having horrific back pain, pins and needles down the back of my legs - went to see GP, didnt even examine me but threw a prescription at me for anti inflams and told me to get on with it. By xmas 07 I was still doing my job as a police officer (I had been backwards and forwards to my GP and kept walking away with pain relief -still no examination) and in total agony with sciatica down my left leg, I ended up in A&E on boxing day 07, I was told I had a herniated disc and would need an MRI scan and referral to see a consultant. So after almost two months I finally knew what was wrong with my BUT still in agony.
I made an appoinment to see said GP two days after - my husband threatened to hit him because he initially told me that there was nothing wrong with me other than a bit of back ache and I should go home and rest - finally he agreed to the scan and referral.
Two weeks later he had the result of my scan which confirmed I had a massive herniation at L4/L5 - he sent me home with pain relief and signed me off work for three months. Two weeks later I was back in his office - this time as well as the pain I reported that my left leg was feeling weaker and weaker and that I was struggling to lift my left foot up - he sent me home and told me to go to bed - the next day I was rushed into hospital with no feeling in my left leg, my left foot had dropped completely and as soon as I tried weight bearing my left leg collapsed. I was kept in hospital and had surgery two days later - I have been left with muscle weakness on the left side of my body and drop foot - the nerve is completely trashed!
My experience of GPs is pretty poor when it comes to back problems - your spine is the integral part of your body- dont be fobbed off.
Good luck
 
Thanks for your replies. Im currently going through the process of complaining about the GP, although I think the specialist I spoke to may well have said somthing himself, as I saw the GP yesterday in the surgery while waiting to see another doctor and he gave me a very sheepish look.

Thanks again.
 
I totally agree with you complaining about the GP.
You are most definitely doing the write thing.
Make sure you get your compaint in asap as well as sorting out the problem the specialist has identified.
The doctor does not sound very good at all.
Just because they are a senior doctor does not mean they are very good.
I am seeing a NHS senior physiotherapist recovering from a prolapsed disc and do not rate the physiotherapist at all. You get good and bad health professionals unfortunately.

Good luck and best wishes

dalep115
 
Hi dalep115,

I probably didn't make myself clear in my last post.
No-one needs the stress of complaining about a health professional. At best they will be asked to submit evidence, at worst they will be asked to go before a Hearing. It can be a very stressful experience.

Complain by all means, but get your priorities right -
sort out the healing, complaints come later.

David
 
I know exactly what you mean, I myself was worried about the stress it could bring on but its actually mad me feel better. Maybe getting it all down on paper made me feel like I was letting it all out.

Maybe this is how it starts, the people who write letters into the local paper all angry about nothing, this is where it starts you know, when your stuck at home with nothing to do, you complain and it makes you feel better. Im off to write a letter about the pavement cracks outside my door and the fact that the bin men didnt put my bin back in the right place, il make sure I use words like "outraged" and "not in my day".
 
If you do decide to complain, I suggest that you don't go through PALs (who are part of the NHS and a thus not unbiased) but through the recently set up Independent Complaints Advocacy Service, that is independent from the NHS and whose sole interest it is to represent you and protect your rights as a patient (apart from unbiased advice they will give you, it may well be that they could represent you if it did come to a disciplinary hearing, rather than you having to be there yourself).

From a quick google search I couldn't find their website (if they have one), but here is a list of all the ICAS contact details in different areas around the country:
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Managingyourorganisation/Legalandcontractual/Complaintspolicy/NHScomplaintsprocedure/DH_4087428

Good luck

Masha
 
I agree with David, if you do 'go for this idiot GP' (and who would blame you?) just make sure you are not unsing up the valuble time and mental capacity you will need to use for research and tests, its a long road, this back malaky!

Good luck.

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    CHERRY & *new SPINNER NANA (Nana starts at 3pm) today at AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Ivy, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  35. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY, NAYLA & PHOENIX 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธMel๐ŸŒธSophia โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautifu
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy๐Ÿ’• She is a Vietnamese With nice Sexy Slender Body, Curves and Sweet Melons ๐Ÿฅ‘ Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Provides Excellent Service & Smoking Hot Body ๐Ÿฅ‘Lin๐Ÿ’•โ€จVery Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž 416-988-2950
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ nice girl Luna ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide,Lisa deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. *NEW Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a model like body, 5โ€™4โ€ with sweet D Cups, nice massage, incredible services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€"
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with 36DD open mind and Young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Selina with big buttocks 30โ€™s and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  48. eyano99:
    Aurora
  49. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 2 Asian girl later tonight
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana๐Ÿ˜˜ is a sexy young slim Malaysian g
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