Twisted pelvis

[iheicummirdipoebu]

After having back problems and sciatica for 8 years, I have finally been referred to have an assesment done by a physiopersonage.
Whist she was examining me she asked if I had children, I replied that I had 2, (I am 49 years old) and she asked if I had any problems with their births which I hadn't.
After the examination, she said that I had a twisted pelvis, and one or two 'other things' going off in my back that she would like to look closer at, so I have to go for an MRI scan.
I was quite shocked at her saying I have a twisted pelvis. What does this mean ?( I know I should have asked but I was speechless)
Can it be cured? Does this account for some of the pain I have been in over the past 8 years???
Sorry there is a lot of questions, but after reading a few of these posts on here I think someone may know ...
THanks in advance... I really appreciate it.

 

[sdheed707]

I'm for every putting my pelvis out and at time's don't even know I've done it, my osteopath normally picks it up at my 3 monthly check up and deals with it and I don't feel any pain at all. She always says what have you been up to Cis and I've no idea how or when I've done it.

Cis

 

[Taevan]

Hi Marymi,

I don't know if my pelvis is twisted or not, but I've lost 1 1/2 inches from my left leg in an accident when I was 20. I was told at the time the shortning would cause my pevis to put uneven pressure on my spine and would eventually have to wear a built up shoe to prevent further damage. In my 30s I had terrible problems with sciatica, back pain, knee and hip problems, but didn't want to go through wearing "special shoes".

Now I'm 48 and free from pain except for the odd knee twinge and I don't need a the "special shoes". I can put the improvement down to several things.... Giving up smoking, no processed foods, low salt/sugar diet, cutting down meat, increasing oily fish, eating tons of fruit and veg and 6 hours martial arts training a week.

 

[jyu_bonk]

Hi,

I saw your problems with twisted pelvis', and one leg shorter than the other. These can both be caused by blocks in Stomach meridian. Don't worry, this is very common and can be treated.

One modality that does a lot of work with these problems is AcuEnergetics. If you are interested and want to know more, just let me know.

Cheers,
Cassandra

 

[cruz1850]

Twisted pelvis is very common problem but very poorly understood among medical experts. It conserns almost everyone.
Some experts say it is a mothers' problem and comes often after giving birth.

I am a man and I believe I had it since child. I looked help to my pains for 10-15 years. Seeing doctors was useless: No-one checked my pelvis.

Some books have been written and many web pages established about the subkect but most of them are full of nonsense. Nobody seems to know much about it, including me. Thousands of patients are asking help for it in many forums, usually they have been looking for help years and finally someone diagnosed twisted pelvis (or so) and now they are wondering what to do.

Most common twisted pelvis comes when ilium has moved and the sacro-iliac joint has altered. This creates torsion and unbalance to pelvis. Pelvic torsion (twisted pelvis) makes other leg look shorter. Problems in pelvis creates abnormality to GAIT when you walk and in time that can cause problems to anywhere between your toes and fingers. Some experience pains at age 10 and some at age 60, most somewhere between those. Most people get symptoms but usually no-one connects them to pelvis and GAIT problems like heel pain, knee pain, neck pain, headache, etc. Back pain, sciatica and buttock pain are most common problems.

I don't have any more answers but some osteopaths seem to have the best knowledge on treating that. If you are lucky you may find one who can help you.

 

[gxeitulxichiqeeee]

Hello I have read your article on twisted pelvis,
Have you considered having Myofascial Release? I went on a course in Exeter in November, and Myofascial Release is a unique and dynamic whole-body approach to healthcare.Want to read more go to www.myofascialrelease.co.uk
Kind regards
Sharon Reed Barnstaple

 

[jtzhxbbh]

I agree with Sharon that myofascial release is highly effective, I trained with Active Health Group in Manchester, who run both a certificate and diploma course. I now integrate some form of MFR in most treatments
There are also two leg length discrepancy conditions, they are ACTUAL and APPARENT, the actual being caused by trauma such as leg breaks, hip replacements etc the apparent caused by muscular, fascial or ligamentous imbalance.
regards
BGFL

 

[Aaron Thurstance]

"I agree with Sharon that myofascial release is highly effective"

I believe Myofascial Release is not very effective. For me it didn't work at all. It may give help for few minutes so that patients feel happy when they walk out from your office. But that's where it ends.

Many experts keep telling their method is very or even highly effective, but it is just advertising. Not evidence based.

 

[LorenTheronMorton]

The thing I like about this forum particularly is that most HPers offer advice based on clinical experience built up over a career. I have to say that just because it didnt work for you expatient that doesnt mean it wont work for others, and from MY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE the results are far longer lasting than you suggest.
Everyone is an individual and will respond in different ways to a range of treatments, that is why I integrate MFR into my treatment and am not just reliant on it.
regards
BGFl

 

[h nitrogen]

Yes, that's what I said. It didn't work with me. But with some others it may.

Also it is common that patients lie to their therapists because they don't like to give bad feedback. So they give false positive feedback. That's why many experts think their method works.
Clinical medical studies show that all kind of physiothearpy is about useless, close to placebo. Pills work better.

And there are medical studies that tell the same? Answer is: NO.

So it is not evidence based treatment. In some countries they have banned treatments with no evidence of benefits.

In medical science you can not integrate treatments just as you feel.

 

[Prowler]

Hello expatient,
i really dont know what your issue is, I made reference to your comment about treatment being effective for a few minutes.
I have reviewed all your posts and they all convey a negative perspective, it is unfair of you to be so negative to so many people covering so many treatment modalities. you obviously have an issue with something, if you look through my posting history of over 650 post spanning a few years, you will pick up a constructive thread of support to those who ask for advice, I am sure that my posts are respected and appreciated by the majority.
I notice that you hide behind an anonymous username, I have always stood by my comments and you know who I am and where I am from, as my username suggests.
I am concerned with helping people achieve their true potential where as you seem concerned with belittling those of us who offer advice in good faith.
I do not as you imply use this forum as a form of advertising, i am sure there are people who would come to my defence about the time I have given voluntarily to advise people over the phone, to see HP'ers in my clinic for several hours, and show them techniques to alleviate pain and discomfort, ALL I MIGHT ADD IS DONE WITHOUT REMUNERATION.


I too am an expatient who comes from an unrelated industry to this industry, having undergone 20+years of ineffective treatment, pointless surgery and working with a disability for the same length of time, I now work tirelessly in educating and administering to the general public in what I believe are effective treatments, I have a growing client list and without advertising on HP, and have made a concious decision to persue a life of personal development and continued learning to encompass a holistic approach, to suggest that an individual treatment plan cannot combine a range of treatments modalities is extremely narrow minded of you and indicative of a self centred individual who thinks that clients lie to you out of fear of upsetting the therapist.
Have you considered that people vote with their feet, if treatment is ineffective they will not return.................... simple as that, the only evidence I need. nothing that requires the brains of a rocket scientist to understand so even you might wake up and smell the coffee.............
For your information I am involved in processes that ensure a consistent level of training and standards are observed by training establishments, assessing and educating students in a range of soft tissue techniques and within the fitness industry so my advice also comes from a wealth of voactional experience and training. your posts seem to arise out of an infeeling towards those who have administered treatment to you, perhaps this is because you are not accepting of change and you want to remain as bitter and twisted as your pelvis.

Might I be so bold as to suggest you concentrate on your own short comings in the field of interpersonal skills before you decide to be so negative to my postings in future.
regards
BGFL

 

[Pompal 09.]

Unfortunately some people do not want their back pain resolving, they just move on from one therapist to another, usually giving the therapist a bad reputation in the process. A good therapist will be able to spot this, and refer them on.

In my experience clients do not walk out of our clinic happy after the first session, and many complain of additional symptoms in the 2nd, however, we do not offer quick fixes, we offer results, that is why our clinic is bursting at the seams, and we get LOTS of GP referalls, not because we do CLINICALLY TESTED techniques, but because we get results where they have struggled (works out much cheaper for the NHS in the long run).

Exfile, MFR may not have worked for you, but it worked for me, thats why I will always sing its praises. After I was hit by a car, I had the usual, osteo, chiro, physio, oh and lots and lot of CLINICALLY TESTED prescription drugs...none of which worked for me. It was only MFR that was truly effective in my case.

What gets me with people banging on about CLINICAL TESTING, is, what about the hundreds of thousands of people die after being given CLINICALLY TESTED prescription drugs, or undergoing CLINICALLY TESTED surgical procedures? Compare this to CAM treatments, and it just doesnt compare. Whats the worst that can happen with the vast majority of CAM treatments? Probably lose £30 and get nowhere.


"In medical science you can not integrate treatments just as you feel" I feel that this statement is about a few hundred years out of date.

 

[Chirag Ashok]

My issue is to help.

Negative? Only the last few perhaps. Telling the truth sometimes feels like a bit negative.

As a patient I mady my choise. Most of the forums offer nicknames instead of real names. I chose using a anonymous nickname.

No, I concentrate on telling the people that manual therapy can be effective and that the origin of many problems is in pelvis. I see thousands of messages in Internet forums where people aske help after seeing tons of doctors and therapists and no-one could help them. Usually they haven't even got any explanation what is the problem. Some have got: Twisted pelvis, but they have no idea on what to do to it.

If they don't know any better way..?
But sure, you are right about voting with feet.

No, but I was hoping to find some evidence... What do yoy like about ATM2 therapy?
In Youtube there are some great video testimonials.
From Manipulation uned Anestesia (MUA) too.
Seen them?

I'll try.


I haven't met such a patient. Everyone wants to get rid of the pain. It is insane to think that some don't want to.

Sure they give bad feedback if they don't get help. Most people don't get help as medical studies keep telling.

Well, that's what they try do here. Is it going back few hundred years, perhaps. They are trying to ban everything that is not evidence based with randomized controlled blind studies.
They say all the treatments based on feelings are useless. They try to get rid of acupunture, manual therapy, homeopathy, etc.

 

[v.acid]

From my observation, many people with back pain seem to beat a "pub crawl" of treatments, but are not interested in prevention.

I might be wrong, but it's easy to get that impression from the back pain posts on HP.

I think the vast majority of people interested in holistic health would want to prevent back pain.

Like other posters on this thread I've suffered back injury and have found lifestyle can prevent pain and mobility issues. That's why I started the "love your back thread".

Myarka

 

[Playah]

To Expatient:

Unfortunately I must be insane then. At my clinic, we have counsellors and psychotherapists that we can refer clients to, and there are DEFINATELY clients who hold on to their pain for psychological reasons.

If we feel we cannot help, we would refer them to a pain clinic where they can access psychologists.

Maybe your clients dont tell YOU the truth.

It would be interesting to know how many clients you treat per week, how many years you have been in practice and which treatments you offer.

 

[Dzem ?]

As I have said, I don't treat anyone. So I don't have clients. I only have fellow patients to change the information with.

I am just a patient who was suffering years with pains and visited tens of doctors, pictures, exams, blood tests, physios, manual therapists and many others. Then I got interested on the subject after I found help. I wanted to understand what was so difficult even I had all the symptoms of ilium upslip.

Do you happen to have any randomized double blinded study on that method you support?
I am not saying it is not efficient. I just have doubts... But then again, even with a simple method you can have results, if you are skilled enough.

 

[Zamie Ziro]

we dont need to do studies, as I have said before, the proof is in the results we get. Our clients dont lie to us, and unfortunately some people do come to see us when they have exhausted all other avenues, but the vast majority of our clients come from referalls.

I agree that most back problems stem from SI joint disfunction, and this is the first thing we check in our clinics, and the first thing we teach our students to check.