Treating male clients please help!

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Hi all

I run a complementary therapy business for my home, when I first started up the business I had a lot of men ringing up obviously wanted services of a sexual nature, anyway first of all I decided to to say no to all men but that did not seem sensible from a business point of view so I decided to treat men, anyway I phone screen them before they come , but the point isI just never feel comfortable treating men, no one has ever tried anything deviant yet but their is one man in particular I feel very uneasy around and I cannot explain why. Doyou thinkthis feeling will go when I have had the practice up and running longer or maybe fornowI should just be treating women. Has anybody else experienced this problem? please help.
 
Hi Kate,

I think you should perhaps listen to your intuition when it comes to treating men (and anyone else). If you feel at all uncomfortable or uneasy, it is best to listen to your inner self and politely decline a treatment.

It might be better even if you could only treat male clients when there is someone else there for example. This may change the way you feel.

But for now, why not just stick to treating female clients if you are more comfortable with them, and when your business and confidence is expanding, perhaps open your client base to accept male customers?

Don't worry though - plenty of people on here feel the same way, so you are not alone!

Love & light,

Crystal xxx
 
Not another Male Client thread.Why is treating male clients different from treating female clients? are there no dubious female clients? Kate if men are phoning up asking about sexual services where are you advertising? use a bit of logic.
 

I think this is unfair. Most female therapists (and possibly some male therapists) have had some dodgy calls. I advertised for a year only in the Yellow Pages about three years ago, under Complementary Therapies, with my Professional Association letters after my name and listing all my therapies. I always say I do holistic massage, rather than just massage. Now I only advertise on health websites, but still getthe odd strange request. Unfortunately it's an occupational hazard.

Having said that, I've always been comfortable with any male clients I have treated and find that they are often the most regular clients.

Lesley
 
Scorpio,

Obviously if Kate feels uncomfortable, why not 'another male client thread'?

It oftenhas nothing to do with whereabouts you advertise; the fact is some men do target complementary/alternative therapists, regardless of the fact of they are not actually offering 'extras'.

I would have thought that as a new member on here, we should be offering Kate support, not patronising her.

Use some logic perhaps Scorpio?[sm=soapbox.gif]
 
Well, SCORPIO, I was going to phrasereference to former threadsa little differently and, in welcoming Kate1 to HealthyPages, post a link to a thread on this topic from earlier in the year which she may find useful. Here it is:

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=363904]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=363904[/link]

There is also the 'sticky' on safety for therapists which is pinned to the top of the General Therapies forum, here:

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=422530]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=422530[/link]

Holistic
 
Hi Kate
To be honest i advertised on yell.com (surely a logical place to advertise)?for two years under comp therapies and that is where most of my phone calls asking for sexual services came from!!! So you don't have to advertise in the back pages of the newspaper to get dodgy calls!!!
Most of the men i treat now are from referals which makes me feel happier than just cold calling. Just see how it goes and like crystalwitch says stick with females for a while

Love and sparkles
Lisa
xx
 
I think we were all posting at once here, and still are but hopefully my postabove redresses the balance.

Holistic
 
Yep as this is the place to come for support!!!!!

Good luck to you Kate xxx
 
Apologies if my comment was overly direct and yes support should always be available im shocked that people are trawling through yell.com, that is low and ruins it for genuine male clients.I have massages as part of my training routine and have encountered predjudice against males but i figure its only a minority,like most things in life there is always a minority who will ruin it for everyone else.Best wishes to you Kate.
 
Hiyas Kate, welcome to HP. It's a fun place here.

Scorpio, over the last 19 years, I've had jobs in all sorts of places/enviroments, in virtually all walks of life/career paths, there is always the small minority of NUTCASES who ruin it for the rest of society (in that context, place/enviment/work/gender).
 
Hello Kate

You have to be comfortable with the people you treat or the treatments will suffer, if you are not confident in your own ability to handle a male then simply do not treat them, or you could see if there is a room to hire at a local therapy centre where there will be others around and treat any new clients there for a while.

Unfortunately most therapies are a one to one experience, yes we all get an occasional person who we would probably not treat again for one reason or another, most people can be assessed on the phone, there are a few topics on this subject, at the end of the day you have to decide what is right for you, as in all businesses you offer to do a service for x-amount of money or whatever, you can withdraw the offer if you no longer wish to carry on and perform the service :)
 
Itotally agree with what Paul has said, if you're not comfortable with someone, for whatever reason, the treatment will suffer.

Another idea is offer female only type treatments - I do a lot of pregnancy massage and the only males I've had enquiring about that have been for gift certificates, I've not had a single male want to book in for a pregnancy massage When people ring up and ask what kind of massage do I do, I always say 'pregnancy massage' second or third, itgets rid of people looking for extras pretty quickly, though I've had 2 males over the years ask if I am pregnant. One drawback, or advantage, to pregnancy massage is you only see someone for a few months - I quite like having a fairly high turn over of clients, and I do continue to see some once they have had the baby.
 
hi kate,
welcome to the site .
Im sorry to say there are some sad people out there who have to upset us by these calls, i myself have had few calls but try to not let you put you off. My hubby wanted me to stop doing male clients but no why should i men do need a massage just as much as woman!!
The men i do have as clients are very nice people and have never asked for extras. they just want a massage because they are stressed or back pain.
If you have a website just put a policy then hopefully you wont get any more calls.
good luck kathy
 
Hi all

Thank you for all your support, it is good to know that their are other therapists who have had the same problem. When it comes to advertising I have learnt a lotgoing along,I started outby advertising in my local paper which was when a lot of thehorrible phone calls happened, so I changed the wording which stopped most of the ungenuine callers , but I wouldstill like to find a way of attractingwomenbecause they have been few and far between ,I wonder whether they do not ring because they think I offer something dodgy?, but do not get me wrong I have nothing aganist treatingmen, but I do find myself feeling anxious whena male client comes to my house for the first time.

Kate
 
I had a free listing in yellow pages for a few years, it said my name and baby massage after it. I thought that would sort out the dubious clients and although prevent me from getting massage clients would hopefully get some baby massage clients.

I had one MAN ring me and ask he could weara nappy.
I had one MAN ring me and ask if I was the person advertising baby massage, to which I replied that I was. he then asked if I would visit him in his hotel room and tidy his room for him!

So, no matter how carefully you word your adverts, some people will misconstrude it to fit in with sex.

I have been practising for over 10 years, I have had about 20-30 disturbing phone calls in that time, all from men.

Once when I put my details on one of the free ads on the internet (can't remember which one now) I had a spate of calls to my home number, always on a weekend after closing time asking for me to visit them that night.I had one man ring me at 4am Saturday morning politely asking me if I was 'open for business'.

I now omit my home phone number from anything on the web.
 
Kate, I don't think it's anything personal at all. As I said on another thread, it's very unusual for women to respond to adverts in newspapers or the Yellow Pages. I've had slightly more success with leaflets if they're left in a respectable place such as the doctor's surgery or a respected health food shop.

But most women like to be recommended (and they see leaflets in such places as recommendations), whereas men often don't discuss having treatments with their friends or family and are happy to pick a name out of a phonebook.

Lesley
 
I agree Aromabae. Nice laeflets, in nice places!
- Mine are a bifold style, with a bit about each of the therapies I offer + a mini CV - to introduce myself, with prices / contact details on the back.
Doctor's receptions, dentists, health food shops, local ladies gym, hairdressers etc. Get plenty printed, they'll disappear fast, but you might still only get a smattering of folk who actually phone for appointments. But for each one that does, you'll hopefully get a little word-of-mouth network and so it builds up - can be slow, but at least you'll be getting the type of clients worth waiting for!
And remember, you're only as good as your last therapy!
 
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    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHERRY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs Today at 12:09 PM
  29. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  30. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  31. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  32. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, young petite girl Amanda 20 years old, Sasha, Candy, Ocean, Yuki, Grace, @6262 Hwy7 until #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  33. laluna1857:
    Nu spring spa @ ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹sexy hot Viennese โค๏ธSpanish girls ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘working at Markham ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham close Costco โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHERRY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs
  35. Reen:
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  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rita๐ŸฅฐA brand new girl from Northeast China of Russian descent has just arrived, a young sexy beauty with smooth white skin, natural 32C breasts with big juicy nipples and fantastic tight little bum bum waiting to be kissed and spa
  37. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 3 young Asian girl in Tuesday
  38. lotushubspa:
    Hello, dear customers, today Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13 and provides female masseuses for customers. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธTaiwan, China and South Korea have Anna.๐Ÿ’‹Cici๐Ÿ’‹Jissica๐Ÿ’‹ to provide customers with first-class service attitude and a large number of beauties๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ9052375885 or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคช
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna joined. She can provide very good massage and sexy touch. She knows how to take instruction and please a man๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ New girl Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜ can provide deep Thai massage. Earlobe kiss๐Ÿ’‹She looks like an ordinary girl but has a round and beautiful ass. The hot body slide is her unique asset to attract men๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œCome see her today. Feel free to walk in or make an appointment at any time.
  40. SL West:
    Shangri-la Spa, the place for luxury Asian massages in GTA. ๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. 9 gorgeous girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea โ€”Coco, Cindy, Cici, Yui, Lulu, Amber, Kelly, Anita, Evaโ€” ready to spoil you silly. ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจ Thanksgiving special on now! ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Dial 647-578-8169โ˜Ž. Feel like 10 million bucks! ๐Ÿ’ฐโœจ Just swing by 160 East Beaver, Unit 12, Richmond Hill. Let the good times roll! ๐Ÿ™Œ
  41. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA & LUISA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. LUISA is a young,pretty, and slim Spanish senorita with slight curves and a hot hot hot attittude. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you
  42. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  43. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CICI is a young, slim & beautiful Chinese gem, petite 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs with firm but soft C Cups & the absolute best of services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธIsabella โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Linda She is Vietnamese Very Spicy Sexy Girl Beautiful Face With Exotic Eyebrow Shape Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  50. See You Health Center:
    Natalie She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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