Tools or No Tools

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I am considering incorporating tools for deeper work. I have been an MT for 6 years now and my thumbs are taking a real beating. Does anyone here use tools (like the jack knobber) for deeper work? It was heavily ingrained in me during school that we should NOT use tools--feels wierd to think about going against the grain! LOL!Lanie
 
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I wasn't really encouraged to use tools in school, but we were never told not too.I have used The Knobble. ย I do not use it frequently, but it comes in handy on a Monday after weeding my landscape all weekend. ย It is easy to use and hold. ย I can palpate pretty good with it too, but it does take practice. ย I also have a Theracane that I use for myself.I am sure that after 6 years I don't have to tell you to get a massage for yourself on a regular basis!? ;)That is what makes the biggest difference for me. ย I have been a MT for 8 years and after a nasty burnout 2 years in I learned my lesson.
 
Lanie,I have been a therapist for 24 years. ย After feeling my thumbs and wrists were destined to give out, I went on a comprehensive search for tools to help. ย I found that the tools out there didn't feel natural and you still had to apply pressure on top of them, so they didn't help very much. ย So, I decided to create tools that would feel like real hands-on work and do the work for me. ย My product line is called Acuforce. ย I have 3 tools, the Acuforce 7.0, Acuforce 2.5 and the Acuforce 3.0i. ย All of these tools are designed to use wieght to assit the therapist. ย They are made of a skin-like material that is very hard for the client to discern between your hands and the tools. ย I encourage therapists to do all their muscle-stripping, cross-fiber friction and trigger-point work with the tools. ย For the average treatment that could be 10 to 20 minutes, the rest of the time the therapsit can use their hands, giving plenty of hands-on massage in every treatment.They have been on the market for 5 years now and there are thousands in use. ย The feedback that we receive is overwelmingly positive. ย Over half of the pro sports teams in this country use them, they are also on the market in other countries as well. ย The tools have a money-back guarentee, so there's no risk in trying them. ย They are sold in many catalogs including: ย Massage Warehouse, BML, Scrip, School Health and on my website. ย They are endorsed by: ย Benny Vaughn, Bob King, Ralph Stephans and many others. ย I am currently the massage therapist for the Chicago White sox baseball team and I own a clinic in a suburb of Chicago. ย You can visit my website at http://www.acuforce.com or you can call me directly (phone number is on the site) ย I would be glad to answer any questions that you may have.John G. Louis
 
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I am finally learning the art of using other parts of my body. I am discovering how forearms, wrists, knuckles, and elbows really do provide for an incredible massage. I use thumbs minimally now and try to brace them if I "catch" myself using them. I say this only because I was an avid thumb user and was heading towards a definate blow-out.In reading an excellent book by Art Riggs "Deep Tissue - A Visual Guide to Techniques." He says.." The thumbs are a wonderful tool for massage, but they are not intended for extended periods of use performing deep work. Tendonitis or, even worse, arthritis of the thumb is one of the most common and debilitating injuries to massage therapists. Sometimes experienced therapists are laying the groundwork for serious injury years before symptoms even surface. Once symptons arise, it may be too late to reverse the damage. I have known several excellent therapists who had to change careers because of thumb pain."Hmmm...had to pause and re-evaluate my techniques on that one.However, I personally don't like using extranious tools as they tend to minimize the sense of touch. I must admit though, being a bit partial to hot stones complementing deeper tissue work. A quality massage is not just fancy strokes or sophisticated techniques. A massage, whether a gentle energetic experience or an extremely deep session, is a dance between you and your client - Art Riggs
 
Hello Forum!Has Anyone purchased or used the AccuForce tool mentioned by John G. Louis?I have seen this tool advertised on massagewarehouse.com, Haven't seen any reviews posted good or bad. ย Thanks for the input.
 
No - I don't and won't use tools. ย When my hands give out it'll be time for gentler work with elderly clients (yeah, I can ride the Aging Baby Boomer wave) or Reiki/healing touch modalities. ย I have experiemented on friends with different knobs and such...but I don't get the same intuitive information through them and hated every minute of it. ย I need my hands on the person to "hear" what the body says to me.--Jenna
 


I haven't used the accuforce tools but I have used massage stones from www. themassagestone.com and I can say these tools really do the job. And as far as losing sensitivity its amazing but you can really feel the knots through the stone. :D

These massage stones can easily be gripped with two hands to really give some force. Oh did I mention each one is a piece of art that is an attractive display all by itself.


Jason
 


I've been using acuforce2.5 and the acu-star in my practice for a couple of months now. I don't use them all the time, but have been using mainly for cross-fiber friction (star) and for working right next to the spine. In spite of (or perhaps because of) the 2.5's size, it is easy to feel what it happening in the body, through the tool.

I highly recommend the acustar as a small and portable thumbsaver, and if you like tools, the 2.5 is great too. The design makes it easy to hold the tool in one hand, and use the other hand on the body as a guide for either the paddle or the triggerpoint end. I have no issues with my grip slipping, even when it's really "greased" up. It works best with just a small amount of massage creme rather than oil. Oil tends to make this, (like most tools) a little too slick.

Also, the acuforce 2.5 is great for working on arms and legs of really muscular people who want deep stripping work. The effort required to strip by hand (or thumb) is many times greater than using the paddle on the 2.5

(plus, John Louis is really nice to deal with.)

The only other tool I use regularly is massage cupping with the traditional glass cups.
 


I don't use tools. One of my clients gave me the gift of a hematite massage stone (different from the one JasonD mentioned). It's beautiful to look at, but not very functional for my style of massage therapy. I think tools are used more often by civilians than professional massage therapists. (Friends & Family Members massaging each other for a few minutes.) I'd be more likely to give them as gifts to nonprofessionals, than to use one myself. As far as my preference as a client, the only way I'd see a massage therapist who used tools is if they were so adept at the technique that I couldn't tell a tool was being used. I heard of one therapist saying they keep one hand on the skin, surrounding the tool at all times, so the feeling of personal touch is never lost. I think that's a great idea. (Breathe & I were posting simultaneously. This sounds like the technique she uses with tools :) .)

Anyway, for those of you interested in tools, I stumpled across a few more websites:
http://www.bodyrocks.com/
http://www.naturesmassagestones.com/specialty_massage_stones.htm
http://www.dragon-art-work.com/lepidolite-fluorite-and-angelite-rock-massage-tools.htm
 


I got curious about how many people use tools, so I did a quick search of the forum. I found two recommendations from other forum threads:

Thumbsaver
Cosmictouch wrote: I have one of these and am about to order another. They REALLY help me keep my thumb in the correct positon and helps me work longer with the deeper pressure on TPs. I really had a time getting used to using them since I found it difficult telling how much pressure I exert with it, but just kept asking my clients to tell me if I get too deep. They really help me when I am working 'knots' out of traps when they are in my chair. I just love mine. They are rigid, so dont be suprised when you get them. I expected them to be a type of support and not so hard, but with the pressure some of my clients ask for, I need them to be tough!

Acuforce
Jillith wrote: love my accuforce star!! i use the blunt point and the scraper end the most. the triggerpoint end scares me because of the sharp point. i wish they sanded that part down. it just looks too painful. it works great on self massaging my cranky calves. i bought the 2.5, but haven't had a chance to watch the CD or test it on hubby. i'll do that on wednesday.

i have the thumbsaver and it sits on my shelf collecting dust. i'm not all that impressed with it. i found it to be awkward and hurt the base of my thumb.
 


Breathe,
Does the Acuforce 2.5 really feel like skin?
 


Missed this question. Yes it does. People don't know the difference unless I tell them. Of course the paddle feels different, but the trigger point end feels just like a thumb to them. Whatever the surface is, it glides the same as using your hands on skin with a little bit of cream.
 


The 7.0 looks rather large. Is it easy to control? I've never seen the Star before and I think I may be ordering one! Do you clean it with soap and water?
 


The 7.0 is a bit large, but then it needs to be. It is hard to believe my kids weighed that much when they were born! I dont now what is inside the 7.0 to make it so heavy, I assume lead?


I dont find it hard to control.

When I use the 2.5, I dont use the handle grip. I hold on to the end that is up. I can stand straight up without hunching over when I hold it like that. I can also use the 7.0 without hunching over as well.
 


Because I'm have a thumb that is already cranky, I have found that tools and forearms/elbows are my saving grace.

Right now I use the Knobble and can palpate with it just fine. I do always use my free hand to guide the tool along the spine or anywhere near bone. You can hold it several different ways for different techniques and most of my clients don't even notice.

I'm interested in trying the Thumb Saver but haven't gotten one yet.
 


Ladybug,

I have a thumbsaver. I dont like it. It DOES take the pressure off your thumb, it just puts it a little higher up.

I found it hard to feel a lot through the thumbsaver, and because of that, I would apply to much pressure. Which would make my wrist hurt, and my thumb feeling jammed.
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Mia sexy body big boobs 36DD very good body slide and massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 14, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici โค๏ธ, Mia ๐ŸŒธ, Vicky ๐Ÿ’– and Lulu ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call 905-479-6668 to book your session!
  31. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธZara๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธBreeCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  34. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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