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Lately I've been pondering a lot on social perceptions about people going back to school. I get a lot of calls from prospective students who are maybe single moms, parents whose children have all moved out of the house, people looking for a career change... and all of them over 40. I get the same question from most of them:

"Am I too old to be a massage therapist?"

My answer? A firm, resounding, universe-quaking (or so I'd like to think) NO!! I'm sure many of you here may have gone to massage school as older students. I look back on my gigantic class of 45, about 10 of my classmates were older (that's 20%!). As a massage educator and school administrator, this is what I've come to embrace as the single greatest thing about massage school. Sure, some will have admissions requirements like a H.S. diploma/GED, but no matter who you are, what your age is, what your religion is, your race, who your parents were, what end of town you grew up on, even your reasons for going to school, there's no restriction on who can find their path in massage and bodywork. It's never too late to pursue your dream and nothing that anyone tells you should EVER stop you!

Just felt like sharing this. Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?
 
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I decided to enroll in massage school while working a lucrative career with nice benefits and regular hours. Part of the benefit package was an education reimbursement program. :) Unfortunately, my work schedule partly conflicted with the class schedule. I was a top performer, had some seniority, blah-blah-blah... none of it mattered. HR wouldn't even discuss varying my work schedule, and my superiors wouldn't go to bat for me. They wanted me right where I was, and no where else. :smt013

So I enrolled in classes anyway, took some paid days off during the first week, and quit my job the moment they refused to let me take any more days off. Given a choice between (A) newfound unpaid passion and (B) lucrative drudgery, I felt no hesitation about walking (running?) away from that job. :mrgreen: There are days when I fondly remember the paychecks and benefits package, but it'll be a long, cold day in hell before I go back to that line of work.

One other satisfying thing: Before I took the final step out their door, I had found a loophole in the education benefit. They ended up paying for over $2000 of my massage school before that option was exhausted. :twisted:
 
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Jason, that reminds me of a little video my brother shared with me about motivation. It might be a bit off-topic, but it makes me think of the handful of MT students I knew who enrolled just because they wanted a fatter bank account. Well it turns out that those few people ended up being very unhappy as MTs and my best guess that it was either disappointment in the lack of a great income or even if they were very successful in monetary terms, I don't think the money was the proper motivation for them. Massage was just not for them no matter how well they did, just as you say you'd never go back to the job you had even though it was very lucrative. Anyway, here's the link if you're interested in watching it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc
 
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I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :D
 
The best thing about massage school

I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)
 
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JasonE said:
I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :D

You're welcome!
 
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I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)

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Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?

My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness (


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jeffscottlmt wrote:My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"Awesome!

[quote="jeffscottlmt"]My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"[/quote]Awesome! :)











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My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"

My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"











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Chiropractic and massage really do go hand-in-hand.. it makes sense for you to offer that benefit to your patients.

Chiropractic and massage really do go hand-in-hand.. it makes sense for you to offer that benefit to your patients.











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pueppi wrote:Taoist wrote: Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness ( by the bundle. I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. "You can't become a Massage Therapist!" "What are you thinking?" "Your patients will think less of you!" "That's so beneath you." "Just hire someone to do that grunt work." "You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. It was a good plan and I have never had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. Maybe they are just smarter than my colleagues. The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?So glad you didn't listen to the nay sayers and limit yourself and cause your clients to be limited in their treatment as well. Your collegues are sure missing out on a wonderful branch of bodywork. Thankfully, for your and your clients, you weren't blind to that.

[quote="pueppi"][quote="Taoist"] Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?[/quote]My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness [i](I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. :shock: [list][*]"You can't become a Massage Therapist!" [*]"What are you thinking?" [*]"Your patients will think less of you!" [*]"That's so beneath you." [*]"Just hire someone to do that grunt work." [*]"You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"[/list]Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. :)When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. :P It was a good plan and I have [i]never[/i] had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. [i]Maybe[/i] they are just smarter than my colleagues. :grin: The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?[/quote]So glad you didn't listen to the nay sayers and limit yourself and cause your clients to be limited in their treatment as well. Your collegues are sure missing out on a wonderful branch of bodywork. Thankfully, for your and your clients, you weren't blind to that. :)











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Many folks around me thought I would never make enough money to do it as my full time job. Yet, here I am! I have been doing massage exclusively for 6-7, heck maybe 8 years now. I had to deal with a full time job while I was going through school. At one point they did allow me to have off a few Mondays to go to class. However, when I had gotten busy with massage clients, I asked them if I could work there part time to devote more time to massage, they absolutely said no. I immediately handed them my 2 week notice and didn't look back. I remember my boss/supervisor offering to act like I didn't hand it in. He kept saying Are you SURE about this??Now that company is down to a few employees. The nature of what I did there MIGHT have kept me employed but doubtful. So thankful I listen to my heart!

Many folks around me thought I would never make enough money to do it as my full time job. Yet, here I am! I have been doing massage exclusively for 6-7, heck maybe 8 years now. I had to deal with a full time job while I was going through school. At one point they did allow me to have off a few Mondays to go to class. However, when I had gotten busy with massage clients, I asked them if I could work there part time to devote more time to massage, they absolutely said no. I immediately handed them my 2 week notice and didn't look back. I remember my boss/supervisor offering to act like I didn't hand it in. He kept saying Are you SURE about this??Now that company is down to a few employees. The nature of what I did there MIGHT have kept me employed but doubtful. So thankful I listen to my heart!











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The best thing for me was getting a second family. I was the baby in my class since I was fresh out of high school and I've met so many great people of all ages. It just goes to show massage therapists have each others back. It's always nice to be in an environment with people who share their need for helping in common.Also it was nice to not be judged for not picking a 4 year college and going with my heart instead.

The best thing for me was getting a second family. I was the baby in my class since I was fresh out of high school and I've met so many great people of all ages. It just goes to show massage therapists have each others back. It's always nice to be in an environment with people who share their need for helping in common.Also it was nice to not be judged for not picking a 4 year college and going with my heart instead.











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Taoist wrote: Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness ( by the bundle. I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. "You can't become a Massage Therapist!" "What are you thinking?" "Your patients will think less of you!" "That's so beneath you." "Just hire someone to do that grunt work." "You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. It was a good plan and I have never had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. Maybe they are just smarter than my colleagues. The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?

[quote="Taoist"] Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?[/quote]My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness [i](I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. :shock: [list][*]"You can't become a Massage Therapist!" [*]"What are you thinking?" [*]"Your patients will think less of you!" [*]"That's so beneath you." [*]"Just hire someone to do that grunt work." [*]"You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"[/list]Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. :)When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. :P It was a good plan and I have [i]never[/i] had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. [i]Maybe[/i] they are just smarter than my colleagues. :grin: The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?











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TouchofGrace wrote:I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better.

[quote="TouchofGrace"]I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)[/quote] :massage: :smt023











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JasonE wrote:I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! You're welcome!

[quote="JasonE"]I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :DYou're welcome!











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I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better.

I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)











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I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link!

I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :D











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Jason, that reminds me of a little video my brother shared with me about motivation. It might be a bit off-topic, but it makes me think of the handful of MT students I knew who enrolled just because they wanted a fatter bank account. Well it turns out that those few people ended up being very unhappy as MTs and my best guess that it was either disappointment in the lack of a great income or even if they were very successful in monetary terms, I don't think the money was the proper motivation for them. Massage was just not for them no matter how well they did, just as you say you'd never go back to the job you had even though it was very lucrative. Anyway, here's the link if you're interested in watching it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

Jason, that reminds me of a little video my brother shared with me about motivation. It might be a bit off-topic, but it makes me think of the handful of MT students I knew who enrolled just because they wanted a fatter bank account. Well it turns out that those few people ended up being very unhappy as MTs and my best guess that it was either disappointment in the lack of a great income or even if they were very successful in monetary terms, I don't think the money was the proper motivation for them. Massage was just not for them no matter how well they did, just as you say you'd never go back to the job you had even though it was very lucrative. Anyway, here's the link if you're interested in watching it:[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc[/url]











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I decided to enroll in massage school while working a lucrative career with nice benefits and regular hours. Part of the benefit package was an education reimbursement program. Unfortunately, my work schedule partly conflicted with the class schedule. I was a top performer, had some seniority, blah-blah-blah... none of it mattered. HR wouldn't even discuss varying my work schedule, and my superiors wouldn't go to bat for me. They wanted me right where I was, and no where else. So I enrolled in classes anyway, took some paid days off during the first week, and quit my job the moment they refused to let me take any more days off. Given a choice between (A) newfound unpaid passion and (B) lucrative drudgery, I felt no hesitation about walking (running?) away from that job. There are days when I fondly remember the paychecks and benefits package, but it'll be a long, cold day in hell before I go back to that line of work.One other satisfying thing: Before I took the final step out their door, I had found a loophole in the education benefit. They ended up paying for over $2000 of my massage school before that option was exhausted.

I decided to enroll in massage school while working a lucrative career with nice benefits and regular hours. Part of the benefit package was an education reimbursement program. :) Unfortunately, my work schedule partly conflicted with the class schedule. I was a top performer, had some seniority, blah-blah-blah... none of it mattered. HR wouldn't even discuss varying my work schedule, and my superiors wouldn't go to bat for me. They wanted me right where I was, and no where else. :smt013 So I enrolled in classes anyway, took some paid days off during the first week, and quit my job the moment they refused to let me take any more days off. Given a choice between (A) newfound unpaid passion and (B) lucrative drudgery, I felt no hesitation about walking (running?) away from that job. :mrgreen: There are days when I fondly remember the paychecks and benefits package, but it'll be a long, cold day in hell before I go back to that line of work.One other satisfying thing: Before I took the final step out their door, I had found a loophole in the education benefit. They ended up paying for over $2000 of my massage school before that option was exhausted. :twisted:











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Lately I've been pondering a lot on social perceptions about people going back to school. I get a lot of calls from prospective students who are maybe single moms, parents whose children have all moved out of the house, people looking for a career change... and all of them over 40. I get the same question from most of them: "Am I too old to be a massage therapist?"My answer? A firm, resounding, universe-quaking (or so I'd like to think) NO!! I'm sure many of you here may have gone to massage school as older students. I look back on my gigantic class of 45, about 10 of my classmates were older (that's 20%!). As a massage educator and school administrator, this is what I've come to embrace as the single greatest thing about massage school. Sure, some will have admissions requirements like a H.S. diploma/GED, but no matter who you are, what your age is, what your religion is, your race, who your parents were, what end of town you grew up on, even your reasons for going to school, there's no restriction on who can find their path in massage and bodywork. It's never too late to pursue your dream and nothing that anyone tells you should EVER stop you!Just felt like sharing this. Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?

Lately I've been pondering a lot on social perceptions about people going back to school. I get a lot of calls from prospective students who are maybe single moms, parents whose children have all moved out of the house, people looking for a career change... and all of them over 40. I get the same question from most of them: "Am I too old to be a massage therapist?"My answer? A firm, resounding, universe-quaking (or so I'd like to think) NO!! I'm sure many of you here may have gone to massage school as older students. I look back on my gigantic class of 45, about 10 of my classmates were older (that's 20%!). As a massage educator and school administrator, this is what I've come to embrace as the single greatest thing about massage school. Sure, some will have admissions requirements like a H.S. diploma/GED, but no matter who you are, what your age is, what your religion is, your race, who your parents were, what end of town you grew up on, even your reasons for going to school, there's no restriction on who can find their path in massage and bodywork. It's never too late to pursue your dream and nothing that anyone tells you should EVER stop you!Just felt like sharing this. Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?











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The best thing about massage school

The best thing for me was getting a second family. I was the baby in my class since I was fresh out of high school and I've met so many great people of all ages. It just goes to show massage therapists have each others back. It's always nice to be in an environment with people who share their need for helping in common.
Also it was nice to not be judged for not picking a 4 year college and going with my heart instead.
 
The best thing about massage school

Many folks around me thought I would never make enough money to do it as my full time job. Yet, here I am! I have been doing massage exclusively for 6-7, heck maybe 8 years now.

I had to deal with a full time job while I was going through school. At one point they did allow me to have off a few Mondays to go to class. However, when I had gotten busy with massage clients, I asked them if I could work there part time to devote more time to massage, they absolutely said no. I immediately handed them my 2 week notice and didn't look back. I remember my boss/supervisor offering to act like I didn't hand it in. He kept saying Are you SURE about this??

Now that company is down to a few employees. The nature of what I did there MIGHT have kept me employed but doubtful. So thankful I listen to my heart!
 
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Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?

My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness (


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jeffscottlmt wrote:My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"Awesome!

[quote="jeffscottlmt"]My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"[/quote]Awesome! :)











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My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"

My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"











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Chiropractic and massage really do go hand-in-hand.. it makes sense for you to offer that benefit to your patients.

Chiropractic and massage really do go hand-in-hand.. it makes sense for you to offer that benefit to your patients.











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pueppi wrote:Taoist wrote: Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness ( by the bundle. I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. "You can't become a Massage Therapist!" "What are you thinking?" "Your patients will think less of you!" "That's so beneath you." "Just hire someone to do that grunt work." "You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. It was a good plan and I have never had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. Maybe they are just smarter than my colleagues. The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?So glad you didn't listen to the nay sayers and limit yourself and cause your clients to be limited in their treatment as well. Your collegues are sure missing out on a wonderful branch of bodywork. Thankfully, for your and your clients, you weren't blind to that.

[quote="pueppi"][quote="Taoist"] Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?[/quote]My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness [i](I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. :shock: [list][*]"You can't become a Massage Therapist!" [*]"What are you thinking?" [*]"Your patients will think less of you!" [*]"That's so beneath you." [*]"Just hire someone to do that grunt work." [*]"You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"[/list]Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. :)When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. :P It was a good plan and I have [i]never[/i] had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. [i]Maybe[/i] they are just smarter than my colleagues. :grin: The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?[/quote]So glad you didn't listen to the nay sayers and limit yourself and cause your clients to be limited in their treatment as well. Your collegues are sure missing out on a wonderful branch of bodywork. Thankfully, for your and your clients, you weren't blind to that. :)











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Many folks around me thought I would never make enough money to do it as my full time job. Yet, here I am! I have been doing massage exclusively for 6-7, heck maybe 8 years now. I had to deal with a full time job while I was going through school. At one point they did allow me to have off a few Mondays to go to class. However, when I had gotten busy with massage clients, I asked them if I could work there part time to devote more time to massage, they absolutely said no. I immediately handed them my 2 week notice and didn't look back. I remember my boss/supervisor offering to act like I didn't hand it in. He kept saying Are you SURE about this??Now that company is down to a few employees. The nature of what I did there MIGHT have kept me employed but doubtful. So thankful I listen to my heart!

Many folks around me thought I would never make enough money to do it as my full time job. Yet, here I am! I have been doing massage exclusively for 6-7, heck maybe 8 years now. I had to deal with a full time job while I was going through school. At one point they did allow me to have off a few Mondays to go to class. However, when I had gotten busy with massage clients, I asked them if I could work there part time to devote more time to massage, they absolutely said no. I immediately handed them my 2 week notice and didn't look back. I remember my boss/supervisor offering to act like I didn't hand it in. He kept saying Are you SURE about this??Now that company is down to a few employees. The nature of what I did there MIGHT have kept me employed but doubtful. So thankful I listen to my heart!











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The best thing for me was getting a second family. I was the baby in my class since I was fresh out of high school and I've met so many great people of all ages. It just goes to show massage therapists have each others back. It's always nice to be in an environment with people who share their need for helping in common.Also it was nice to not be judged for not picking a 4 year college and going with my heart instead.

The best thing for me was getting a second family. I was the baby in my class since I was fresh out of high school and I've met so many great people of all ages. It just goes to show massage therapists have each others back. It's always nice to be in an environment with people who share their need for helping in common.Also it was nice to not be judged for not picking a 4 year college and going with my heart instead.











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Taoist wrote: Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness ( by the bundle. I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. "You can't become a Massage Therapist!" "What are you thinking?" "Your patients will think less of you!" "That's so beneath you." "Just hire someone to do that grunt work." "You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. It was a good plan and I have never had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. Maybe they are just smarter than my colleagues. The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?

[quote="Taoist"] Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?[/quote]My story takes a little different direction, but I did have nay-sayers and looks of utter "aghast"-edness [i](I actually had people tell me becoming an MT was "below" me. :shock: [list][*]"You can't become a Massage Therapist!" [*]"What are you thinking?" [*]"Your patients will think less of you!" [*]"That's so beneath you." [*]"Just hire someone to do that grunt work." [*]"You're not really serious, are you?""Your a doctor for _'s sake!"[/list]Not only have I found that my patients appreciate the work I do, but I have opened my practice to a whole new set of people. Some like massage, some like chiropractic, some like both. :)When I practice massage, it's just like any MT would. Nice room, lowered lights, relaxing music. There is no reason it has to be a problem and yet my colleagues still are confused and wonder what's wrong with me. :P It was a good plan and I have [i]never[/i] had a patient or client think the bodywork I do is "beneath" my original training. [i]Maybe[/i] they are just smarter than my colleagues. :grin: The skill it takes to work with the body, in its various states of need, is like a tree with many branches, and branches with many leaves. The more you learn, the more you are able to help. Chiropractic, bodywork, massage, emotional work, rehabilitation, physical therapy, medicine. They are all practices that have to do with the body. Different parts, but the body no less. I don't practice them all, but who says I have to do just one?











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TouchofGrace wrote:I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better.

[quote="TouchofGrace"]I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)[/quote] :massage: :smt023











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JasonE wrote:I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! You're welcome!

[quote="JasonE"]I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :DYou're welcome!











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I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better.

I entered massage school at the age of 40. It was the best move I ever made. I feel as if I took a gigantic leap of faith into the perfect job for me. My support system was lacking totally from husband for quite a while, but we're on the same page now. This town was uneducated about massage and is still being educated one by one, but that, in itself, has also helped me build. It's new and outstanding. Thankfully, I have little competition so they don't know any better. ;)











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I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link!

I LOVE THAT VIDEO!! It dovetails PERFECTLY with some other things I've been working on/studying. Thank you so much for posting the link! :D











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Jason, that reminds me of a little video my brother shared with me about motivation. It might be a bit off-topic, but it makes me think of the handful of MT students I knew who enrolled just because they wanted a fatter bank account. Well it turns out that those few people ended up being very unhappy as MTs and my best guess that it was either disappointment in the lack of a great income or even if they were very successful in monetary terms, I don't think the money was the proper motivation for them. Massage was just not for them no matter how well they did, just as you say you'd never go back to the job you had even though it was very lucrative. Anyway, here's the link if you're interested in watching it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

Jason, that reminds me of a little video my brother shared with me about motivation. It might be a bit off-topic, but it makes me think of the handful of MT students I knew who enrolled just because they wanted a fatter bank account. Well it turns out that those few people ended up being very unhappy as MTs and my best guess that it was either disappointment in the lack of a great income or even if they were very successful in monetary terms, I don't think the money was the proper motivation for them. Massage was just not for them no matter how well they did, just as you say you'd never go back to the job you had even though it was very lucrative. Anyway, here's the link if you're interested in watching it:[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc[/url]











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I decided to enroll in massage school while working a lucrative career with nice benefits and regular hours. Part of the benefit package was an education reimbursement program. Unfortunately, my work schedule partly conflicted with the class schedule. I was a top performer, had some seniority, blah-blah-blah... none of it mattered. HR wouldn't even discuss varying my work schedule, and my superiors wouldn't go to bat for me. They wanted me right where I was, and no where else. So I enrolled in classes anyway, took some paid days off during the first week, and quit my job the moment they refused to let me take any more days off. Given a choice between (A) newfound unpaid passion and (B) lucrative drudgery, I felt no hesitation about walking (running?) away from that job. There are days when I fondly remember the paychecks and benefits package, but it'll be a long, cold day in hell before I go back to that line of work.One other satisfying thing: Before I took the final step out their door, I had found a loophole in the education benefit. They ended up paying for over $2000 of my massage school before that option was exhausted.

I decided to enroll in massage school while working a lucrative career with nice benefits and regular hours. Part of the benefit package was an education reimbursement program. :) Unfortunately, my work schedule partly conflicted with the class schedule. I was a top performer, had some seniority, blah-blah-blah... none of it mattered. HR wouldn't even discuss varying my work schedule, and my superiors wouldn't go to bat for me. They wanted me right where I was, and no where else. :smt013 So I enrolled in classes anyway, took some paid days off during the first week, and quit my job the moment they refused to let me take any more days off. Given a choice between (A) newfound unpaid passion and (B) lucrative drudgery, I felt no hesitation about walking (running?) away from that job. :mrgreen: There are days when I fondly remember the paychecks and benefits package, but it'll be a long, cold day in hell before I go back to that line of work.One other satisfying thing: Before I took the final step out their door, I had found a loophole in the education benefit. They ended up paying for over $2000 of my massage school before that option was exhausted. :twisted:











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Lately I've been pondering a lot on social perceptions about people going back to school. I get a lot of calls from prospective students who are maybe single moms, parents whose children have all moved out of the house, people looking for a career change... and all of them over 40. I get the same question from most of them: "Am I too old to be a massage therapist?"My answer? A firm, resounding, universe-quaking (or so I'd like to think) NO!! I'm sure many of you here may have gone to massage school as older students. I look back on my gigantic class of 45, about 10 of my classmates were older (that's 20%!). As a massage educator and school administrator, this is what I've come to embrace as the single greatest thing about massage school. Sure, some will have admissions requirements like a H.S. diploma/GED, but no matter who you are, what your age is, what your religion is, your race, who your parents were, what end of town you grew up on, even your reasons for going to school, there's no restriction on who can find their path in massage and bodywork. It's never too late to pursue your dream and nothing that anyone tells you should EVER stop you!Just felt like sharing this. Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?

Lately I've been pondering a lot on social perceptions about people going back to school. I get a lot of calls from prospective students who are maybe single moms, parents whose children have all moved out of the house, people looking for a career change... and all of them over 40. I get the same question from most of them: "Am I too old to be a massage therapist?"My answer? A firm, resounding, universe-quaking (or so I'd like to think) NO!! I'm sure many of you here may have gone to massage school as older students. I look back on my gigantic class of 45, about 10 of my classmates were older (that's 20%!). As a massage educator and school administrator, this is what I've come to embrace as the single greatest thing about massage school. Sure, some will have admissions requirements like a H.S. diploma/GED, but no matter who you are, what your age is, what your religion is, your race, who your parents were, what end of town you grew up on, even your reasons for going to school, there's no restriction on who can find their path in massage and bodywork. It's never too late to pursue your dream and nothing that anyone tells you should EVER stop you!Just felt like sharing this. Does anyone have any stories of nay-sayers or obstacles you may have encountered during your schooling/licensing process that you've been able to overcome?











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The best thing about massage school

Chiropractic and massage really do go hand-in-hand.. it makes sense for you to offer that benefit to your patients.
 
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My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.

To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.

If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"
 
The best thing about massage school

jeffscottlmt said:
My story takes a different route. SImilar to Jason in the former BIG paychecks and benefits, but different. I have always been self-employed (since I was 19), it runs in my family, and I can't imagine anything else. I owned a Home delivery company from 97-2005, in which I was a contractor for a large chain in the Northeast (Namco Pools). I did the majority of their home deliveries in MA, NH, and RI, and I hated every second of it. But, I was trapped. I had just built a big house, my wife owned her families construction business (took over when her dad retired), we were living large...and miserable. One day I got the call, the contract was being pulled from all contractors for deliveries, and Namco was going to keep it all in-house. At first I was furious, then depressed, then felt like a failure. I was able to collect unemployment, because I was incorporated and an employee of my company (thank God). I started thinking, "what am I going to do now?" I have a brother who has been a massage therapist since 1986, so I called him and asked tons of questions. The end result was, if I did it, I would probably never again make the same money. But, I would probably be a lot less stressed, as well as healthier and happier. I figured the latter was far more important, and I enrolled about 2 weeks later. I have never looked back. After the real estate market went south, my wife's business also closed. We got rid of the big house, rented for a year, and last year bought our own income property where we live in one of the apartments. It's smaller, but all the kids are moved out. My wife is in her last year of nursing school, and we have never been happier. Business is booming, and growing, but the stress is just not there in this business. I love it.

To answer the question on "Nay-sayers" what I got was a lot of "the massage market is saturated, they are everywhere, will you be able to compete?" Thankfully, I have done just fine. The market is saturated for sure. Massachusetts has well over 8,000 licensed therapists, but apparently there are enough clients, because we are doing great.

If anyone ever asked me, I would say "listen, if you like to help people, being around people, and like working hands-on..GO FOR IT"

Awesome! :)
 
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    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and Young cute Jessy slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Summer and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  24. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366New girl Luna joined. She can provide very good massage and sexy touch. She knows how to take instruction and please a man๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Jessica๐Ÿ˜˜ can provide deep Thai massage. Earlobe kiss๐Ÿ’‹She looks like an ordinary girl but has a round and beautiful ass. The hot body slide is her unique asset to attract men๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œCome see her today. Feel free to walk in or make an appointment at any time. There is plenty
  25. SugarLoveSpa:
    : Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  26. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old young Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Ella, Lulu ,Angela, Candy @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  27. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 3 girls Tiffany round big breasts, sexy perky buttocks ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki 36 DD large breasts, rosy nipples, small nipples, Wow ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Super great body slide ๐Ÿ‘ Luna has a slim figure and smooth, delicate skin like a little girl ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Welcome to enter or make an appointment โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 rear door with a large number of parking spaces
  28. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธEmily ๐ŸŒธCamila ๐ŸŒธHellen ๐ŸŒธAlisa โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  29. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 3 Girls Today at Alice Spa: JULIA (10-9) from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face sexy lips ๐Ÿ‘„, excellent massage and service, deep strong massage, play good, good deep bbbj, Rim , come in mouth or face, dfk ...available all menus, must try!
  30. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธBarbie โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  31. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  35. See You Health Center:
    Suki ๐Ÿ’• From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ๐Ÿฅ‘๐Ÿฅ‘Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-988-2950
  36. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€ tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  37. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/Persian girl and Jenny Yoyo in today
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl
  39. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  40. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Michelle ๐Ÿ˜ Brand new sexy Taiwanese girl @ Annie Spa making her debut. Petite small frame, with a creamy white skin and gorgeous almond shaped face to leave you in your tracks. Excellent massage skills and very skilled open mind
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MEERA, PRIYA, MONIKA, KIRAN, NINA, JIYA, PREETI, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Anita, ~Cindy & Tray, *nicole tracy cindy Anita is a slim Asian babe with a slim waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young sweet Sophia slime 30โ€™s and Young fun Ivy with big buttocks open mind, cute GFE lina and sexy young Yoyo 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 3 girls Tiffany round big breasts, sexy perky buttocks ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki 36 DD large breasts, rosy nipples, small nipples, Wow ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Super great body slide ๐Ÿ‘ Luna has a slim figure and smooth, delicate skin like a little girl ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Welcome to enter or make an appointment โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 rear door with a large number of parking spaces
  48. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese student girl Hannah, Hatti , Jenny, Cici, Lulu, Pinky, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  49. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  50. laluna1857:
    Nu spring spa @โค๏ธโค๏ธ Spanish โค๏ธJapaneseโค๏ธ Korean๐Ÿ‘ girls working Markham โค๏ธno rush โ˜€๏ธgood services โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508 calling more information
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