Taking back attunements?

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Hi there,
I'm a Reiki Master and I also teach at a massage school. One of the workshops we offer to our students is Reiki 1. My first year teaching the class, I had a talented young man really excell in energy work. At the end of the class, I do level one attunements on everyone who wants one. This young man received one. The next day, he went to church and talked to his 'elder' and was told Reiki was evil because it was the work of the devil. (Apparently, the devil is into healing now.) He came back the next day and ordered me to take the attunement back! I hate to admit it, but even after much discussion with him over the matter, I did what I could to take the level one attunement back! I've never forgotten this situation. This same young man was also told reflexology was evil because it was, well, from non-Christians. I'm surprised he took massage therapy at all, because it too, was developed by non-Christians.
Has anyone else had an experience like this?
I'm very careful in my classes now to tell everyone they are free to leave after the morning lecture, if they have no interest in actively using Reiki. The last class I taught in May, half the students left. I don't know if it was spring fever (very young class near graduation) or if they all were very serious about their 'Christian' concerns.
I'm a Methodist and have been welcome to teach Reiki at my church at least once a year for free. So I'm really puzzled by this trend at my school.
 


Elder? Is the student in question Mormon? If so, doesn't surprise me.

Re half your class leaving... healthy detachment aside, I feel sad when I see people dismiss/reject energy work without giving it much chance. Especially those who have decided already, "I don't believe in that kind of stuff." Great, enjoy your reality.
 


Or Jehovah's Witness. Also not surprising. What a shame. Let it go though. Keep teaching what you do, maybe some of that will do some good for the students who are so fearful, even if at the time they leave your class.

It takes a long time and many people and experiences to tear down that kind of indoctrinated fear.
 


I think there are "elders" in many different brands of christian churches.

Do you have an evaluation sheet for people to fill out at the end of class? Do you have questions on it that would help give you more specific information about why someone would not be interested in using Reiki?
 


GrateLakes said:
Why not turn it around and tell this person they need to reject the attunement rather than having it 'taken back."

Tell them to pray to whomever they pray to to remove the attunement and it will be gone. Chances are, they will feel better results this way.

i think this is a great idea - it will allow that person to feel control over the situation.
 


I agree with people who have questioned if this person was a Jahovah Witness or Mormon. They are extremely strict in their tenents and one cannot defer from them because they they are seen as worse heretics then when the protestants broke from the catholics all those centuries ago.
 


I agree with greatlakes. I honestly have never heard of anyone being able to give back their attunement. If I have time I'll do some research into this.

You might want to look at this forum

http://www.reiki-4-all.com
 


How active is that forum........I cannot tell really by just browsing around. It looks active though and its definately going into my faves so I can browse later :) Thanks for posting it!!

holistichealer
 


You're welcome. :)

I think that it is pretty active. I only visit occasionally however.
 


The fundamental charismatic non-denominational Christian church that I attended once upon a time would have sent me to hell with gasoline britches on if I said I'd been attuned in Reiki. Conservative Catholics, as well, tend to frown upon it. Unfortunately this attitude is rampant in my neck of the woods. It breaks my heart. Reiki is awesome and it changed my life! Is it any surprise I'm having trouble calling myself a Christian these days?

Kemilyna
 


Breathe said:
Or Jehovah's Witness. Also not surprising. What a shame. Let it go though. Keep teaching what you do, maybe some of that will do some good for the students who are so fearful, even if at the time they leave your class.

It takes a long time and many people and experiences to tear down that kind of indoctrinated fear.

I have to totally agree with your statement, Breathe. I use to be a JW years ago and would never have touched Reiki at that time. Through the years, with many personal changes, and experiences, I have totally changed my views and now I am a Reiki Master too. I can't imagine not doing Reiki now!
 


EgoMagickian said:
Great, enjoy your reality.

Y'know, I deeply enjoy and appreciate your posts. You seem like a really cool being. But this is my new favorite quote ever! :D
 


Can an attunement really "take" if that attitude exists? Reiki only goes where it is welcome. Is it the elder talking or the student in that case, maybe the student has accepted it, but needs to tell the elder that it has been removed. I live in a predominantly Roman Catholic area, Reiki is just so far off their radar, I was questioned about craniosacral therapy, that it is "Not from God"!!!

The local RC priest made a very tiny comment about a healing touch instructor coming to town, and they had to cancel her workshop because of it. And it was the United Church that was facilitating it!

I think progress will be slow, but movies like "What the Bleep" will hopefully help move things along.
 


It is these attitudes from "Christians" that are causing the congragations to become smaller and smaller in the churches. I have friends who are clergy and former nuns as well as friends who are Buddhists, Muslims, and Pagans.

All who follow the true teachings of their faith are very tolerant of others. Church officials who criticize others are living in a place of fear. They are the ones who need to be prayed for and who need our love. Remember, God/Christ/Buddha/Muhammed all said to love your neighbour. Love, to me doesn't mean criticize but to simply love.

Namaste'
 


Don't want to be repetitive here -- I have posted on the "Reiki Conflicts with my beliefs as a Christian" thread with two books I have discovered that might help both Christians who are interested in doing Reiki and those who are performing Reiki and not Christians -- who are fielding questions from Christian clients who have fears about it.

As mentioned in the previous thread, I cannot recommend these books until I read them! Book reports sometime next week . . . :)

Sherry
 


Hi Sherry.

I look forward to reading your reviews.

Just for the record, I have no problems with Reiki and Religion/Spirituality. I'll perform Reiki for you no matter what you believe. Being able to play music for nearly forty years I see as a gift from "That which We Call God." Reiki is no different. The fact that Reiki came via an attunement from another person simply makes that person a gift too. I got my first level from a Catholic Nun for Pete's sake!

Reiki is not a problem, nor is religion. The problem is in narrow-mindedness and intollerance.

Namaste'
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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