SP - agency or indy?

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So, I’ve tried a couple of indys, and out of three one of them lived up to the reviews. I’ve come to see Terb reviews are very unreliable. Only one has lived up to reviews, others were all very mechanical clock watchers.

I find the folks here to be much more reliable (except for a few nuts).

So, is agency the way to go? I haven’t tried any agency, but don’t like the idea of dealing with the booker (pimp). Also, have the impression the agency girls are high volume, and that is also a turn off. MPA has been great so far, but the same routine of massage, hj, bbbj, and getting a but old. Want some experiences so I can retire from this with some wank worthy memories. (Yes, I haven’t succeeded in quitting just yet).

So to the vets - go agency or indy? Any recommendations? Reliable, enthusiastic, and discreet is what I’m looking for. Young spinners are my fav.
 
I used to frequent indies but soon found out that the reallygood ones were generally out of my price range, or had one hour minimums as opposed to my preferred 45 minutes.

I'm comfortable with agencies that charge 180 to 200 for 45 minutes, and find the booking generally easy and straightforward, via text. I don't see it as dealing with pimps a la "The Deuce" tv series.

The reliability of the appointments being actually kept is much better than my experience with similarly priced indies, and I find the agencies will usually weed out the poor performers from their roster.
 
I used to frequent indies but soon found out that the reallygood ones were generally out of my price range, or had one hour minimums as opposed to my preferred 45 minutes.

I'm comfortable with agencies that charge 180 to 200 for 45 minutes, and find the booking generally easy and straightforward, via text. I don't see it as dealing with pimps a la "The Deuce" tv series.

The reliability of the appointments being actually kept is much better than my experience with similarly priced indies, and I find the agencies will usually weed out the poor performers from their roster.

Thanks. I have spend around $400 per indy so far. $200 sounds like a bargain lol.

Which agencies do you recommend for a newb?
 
Always agency.

Some dumb bitch indy refused me with some bullshit excuse after I entered her apartment, just because she had a regular client waiting. If they're indy, that means they can fuck with you any time they want. Under escort agency, the SPs usually try to live up to agency standard.

The phone girl is just someone hired to take bookings, technically she's not the pimp.
 
I have only tried Hot Pink List, Top Drawer Ladies, and Sexy Friends Toronto. At your price range your choices are wide open.

I use Hot Pink List the most as they seem to be able to find young fresh talent new to the industry, they are very responsive to my booking requests, and their pricing suits my budget.

I suggest you look at the other Toronto internet forums that have dedicated SP sections to get a better feeling for what's out there.
 
I have only tried Hot Pink List, Top Drawer Ladies, and Sexy Friends Toronto. At your price range your choices are wide open.

I use Hot Pink List the most as they seem to be able to find young fresh talent new to the industry, they are very responsive to my booking requests, and their pricing suits my budget.

I suggest you look at the other Toronto internet forums that have dedicated SP sections to get a better feeling for what's out there.

Thanks for the tips! I’ll check out those agency rosters and see how it goes..
 
I prefer agencies...but only because its more reliable

More chances of real reviews
More chances of some type of quality
Indy = backpage = risk

Anyone can make up a website and bill themselves as exclusive executive certified international geisha model quality relationship coach. Get my drift? Its like those $1k phone apps, if you put it up always a sucker with money to lose.
 
I have only tried Hot Pink List, Top Drawer Ladies, and Sexy Friends Toronto. At your price range your choices are wide open.

I use Hot Pink List the most as they seem to be able to find young fresh talent new to the industry, they are very responsive to my booking requests, and their pricing suits my budget.

I suggest you look at the other Toronto internet forums that have dedicated SP sections to get a better feeling for what's out there.
If you don’t mind me asking, what are the other forums? I know of terb, and ter so far.
 
If you don’t mind me asking, what are the other forums? I know of terb, and ter so far.

SP411

As usual you have to wade through the bullshit, but usually fairly accurate re: agency girls. Lots of HPL reviews in the Mississauga section.
 
SP411

As usual you have to wade through the bullshit, but usually fairly accurate re: agency girls. Lots of HPL reviews in the Mississauga section.

that's funny....sp411 used to be the real deal then it got into alot of ads. I can't tell what is what anymore. I don't even bother to log in right now because it's impossible to sift through the BS in there.
 
that's funny....sp411 used to be the real deal then it got into alot of ads. I can't tell what is what anymore. I don't even bother to log in right now because it's impossible to sift through the BS in there.

All I can say is that regarding HPL girls the reviews on SP411 seem pretty accurate.

I agree it's difficult to sift through the BS but, just like on Massageplanet, you pretty quickly learn who to ignore.
 
I agree it's difficult to sift through the BS but, just like on Massageplanet, you pretty quickly learn who to ignore.

Yes, the guys who talk the most don't see girls or very few. And there are others that see some girls but don't bother to
post reviews.I have gone back to posting reviews on the red board.
 
I have used Top Drawer in the past and while I have met some gems (Maika and Madeline), Shaylan was a complete waste of time as she looks nothing like her photos and that has made me stop using them.
 
I think if you're going to try someone for the first time or if it's your first time getting a message; you should definitely go for the agencies. If you get to know some SP personally and she works independently too; you may go to her directly.
 
I generally prefer to see indies. Sessions don't feel as rushed. But there are some great agency girls out there too. Minx has a small but loaded roster - Yasmina the Queen of DFK, Dina Doll the Queen of Rimming and Amelia the Superstar model.
 
I generally prefer to see indies. Sessions don't feel as rushed. But there are some great agency girls out there too. Minx has a small but loaded roster - Yasmina the Queen of DFK, Dina Doll the Queen of Rimming and Amelia the Superstar model.

I've gotten better sessions out of girls at decent agencies. Alot of agencies, especially the asian ones are just booking things that forward you to ppl. If you pick the right agency you'll have a good time and not feel like you wasted money.

Minx escorts is solid. I agree on that one
 
Thanks for the tips! I’ll check out those agency rosters and see how it goes..
Sexy friends Toronto & Mirage are are the two I frequently use. I've used HPL, TDL, Hush, TGF, Select, TP, Sassy. But I keep going back to SFT & Mirage.
 
So, I’ve tried a couple of indys, and out of three one of them lived up to the reviews. I’ve come to see Terb reviews are very unreliable. Only one has lived up to reviews, others were all very mechanical clock watchers.

I find the folks here to be much more reliable (except for a few nuts).

So, is agency the way to go? I haven’t tried any agency, but don’t like the idea of dealing with the booker (pimp). Also, have the impression the agency girls are high volume, and that is also a turn off. MPA has been great so far, but the same routine of massage, hj, bbbj, and getting a but old. Want some experiences so I can retire from this with some wank worthy memories. (Yes, I haven’t succeeded in quitting just yet).

So to the vets - go agency or indy? Any recommendations? Reliable, enthusiastic, and discreet is what I’m looking for. Young spinners are my fav.

It is an either/or conversion. The key with Indies is NEVER believe any post. So figure out what you like and check out terb or sp411. Agencies have a better track record.

I live by the too good to be true. No 20 something spinner would charge 200 for the hour.

Do your research as both are valid options. I have a few agency and indies in my stable. Let some other idiot play Christopher Columbus.
 
Check out lists by Tempted Monk on Terb on Indies. Contact info beside reviews, really good resource.

Some MPAs have full menu, too & you can walk if you don't like what you see, no blacklist. Hell, come back the next day, new lineup, they won't even remember you.

Lala Spa on Yonge near Finch is actually directly connected to an Escort agency. Leolist ad:
...and the one here:

Notice they mention another website?

...and Lala Spa girls listed at the bottom.

So you can check out the low end of their roster for free just by walking in.
 
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