Sindictura: Solution to Deal with TJ Cops

[jyu_bonk]

The only thing that can over ride that code is that the hooker said it was ok.
They will not let you take the bottle in the room. You have to pour it into a plastic cup when you pay for the room.

 

[MargieY]

A hooker at AB told me its ok to take my open beer up stairs to the Hotel. Is that a Violation of TJ Municipal Code 10.976 ??? Spike

 

[Strive 4 Success]

IN Mexico, you can't do illegal stuff and expect to get away with it. When you do illegal stuff, you become "fair game." You become "fair game" not only because you did illegal stuff (carrying an open container in a public street would be an example of illegal stuff), but you become "fair game" because you are perceived as an arrogant and dis-respectful americano gringo, which is why you did the illegal stuff to begin with.

When that happens, the guys with the badges and the guns have an opening to have their way with you. That's the way it works.

When you walk back to the border and you have drugs without a prescription, are drunk and dis-orderly etc etc., well - I hate to be the one to break the noose but that too is illegal and now you've given the cops the opening they need to exploit your god nature not to mention your wallet.

If you are caught state-side with an open container, they don't pat you on the ass and say ""Excuse me Mr. American citizen, you are in America now and Americans can do whatever the fuck they want, so walk down the street with that Bud and slobber all over the community." No, they arrest you and it ends up costing you money right? Right.

Stoopid is as stoopid does. Plain and simple. You are all adults and know that things work a bit differently in Mexico than State-side and you should know better than to be arrogant and dis-respectful; that costs money.

So when you are stopped for "felony walking down the sidewalk on a sunny day," and you are robbed of all your money or charged with the aforesaid crime, then you have a beef. But please, please please, stop the crying over being busted for being wrong. Please. I know it's a drag to get caught, I know it's unpleasant to have to pay off the cops but you should know better than to give these guys the opening they need.

Country John

 

[usman]

The website that was designed for TJ tourists to report any rogue TJ cops simply does not work, period. I've actually filed a complaint against TJ cops and it said they will investigate and respond back to me through email upon completion of the online form. But nada. I dind't have whole lot of confidence in it to begin with.

Police shakedowns come with the territory I guess. As long as you are mongering in TJ, the risk will always exist. It's like a crap shoot. The more and more you shoot the dice, 7 will soon come up and the house wins. I myself have been stopped several times. I am not sure how much and how long the diiference the new mayor will make in the long run. Unless they impose severe penalties, like prison term for first offense, I don't think it will go away. Maybe we are asking too much. After all, Mexico is one of the most corrupted countries in the world. I am sure the locals are also suffering from abusive officials as well.

 

[happygirl888]

If I were a TJ cop I'd get the young guys, both from the US and Mexico, as they are most likely to have illegal drugs in their pockets and could be a good payout.. Next I would stop the guys who appear to have been drinking any age, sex or nationality it doesn't matter, could be good for $ 20 to $40 dollar bribe. Finally, I'd stop any gringo with shorts, T-Shirt/ Hawaiian shirts, and sandals, as they are obvious rookie tourist from Revolution, or the zona, probably don't speak a word of Spanish and would be easy to be shaken down, and would not complain to any authority .....that's if I were a TJ police.

I found that sticker on the Baja racers forum where they fear TJ police even more then mongers. Check out this three in one TJ cop shakedown report, it's very similar to what we hear in other places, I can't help but admire how the TJ cop gets the guy by the balls in the rental car situation. I think the guy has no choice but pay the fine/bribe to the TJ cop.

 

[Steve N]

Hey FB after thinking about your post:

While it turns out the guy that says he is stopped is a young guy who likes doing the 420 thing with the chicas.You can bet the TJ cops learn who to stop, and who it would be a waste of time stopping? You also hear some guys claiming they get stopped all the time by the TJ cops, if they go to TJ 10 times they get stopped 10 times. I have a hard time believing this? What I think is maybe out of the 10 times they get stopped 3 times, and just say they are stopped all the time, but I don't know. It's just too hard to believe some guys will be stopped all the time, unless they are waving a red flag or something?


I can see the type of pattern that cops choose for a shake down, if I was a cop I would pick on old white,middle age white,and young white males.Old white male walking down street holding hot 19 year old hands are standing next to them,If I was a cop I would harss them.{that right there tells me you have money.}White male handing out dollars to street people again I would harss them.But I don't believe it to be as high as these monger sites make the out to be.

 

[Matty boi]

They sell the Sindicatura sticker on Ebay, or did, but when I last checked it wasn't there. Your suppose to put the sticker on you car to ward off the TJ police.

There is also an enterprising dude on the internet asking for $25 dollars towards the support of the Sindicatura effort, but you have to question the guy when he asked you to send the donation to a P.O. Box in Rancho Cucamonga, CA? But at least he says he provides you with a window decal for your car.( I have a copy of the sticker, I'll try to post it here later)

http://campolorenzo.com/_wsn/page2.html

If you really want the card I guess you can always go to the office. It's suppose to be in City Hall, near Plaza Rio, if I remember somebody writing, but I never been there?

But the good news on the street, and since we are talking the "cross" is we have a new "Savior" in Tijuana that has nearly put a stop to police corruption, it's the new Mayor Jorge Ramos.

I got to admit it seemed pretty quiet on the streets of Tijuana in the zona and out of the zona last night. I did not see one TJ cop pulling anyone over, and the way back home once again I didn't see any TJ cops at the taxi drop off point, and the real kicker to me was the Taxi Libre, actually put on the meter for me twice, once going into town, and once going home. I was in such a shock I gave the taxi drivers $5 dollars each.

But then again it's always quiet for me as I'm just about never stopped just like KIllit says. If fact I got a kick reading another site, where this guy lives and works in TJ, says he often is surprised to hear guys reporting they are stopped all the time, and wonders why when he has only been stopped once?
While it turns out the guy that says he is stopped is a young guy who likes doing the 420 thing with the chicas. You can bet the TJ cops learn who to stop, and who it would be a waste of time stopping? You also hear some guys claiming they get stopped all the time by the TJ cops, if they go to TJ 10 times they get stopped 10 times. I have a hard time believing this? What I think is maybe out of the 10 times they get stopped 3 times, and just say they are stopped all the time, but I don't know. It's just too hard to believe some guys will be stopped all the time, unless they are waving a red flag or something?

 

[Amar C]

I am suprise that they don't sell the card on the web site. {lets find tourist without the card and go robbed them. }IMPO it starts with middle magment, i.e the station officers and desk sgt, at the station,If you give them real perison time hopefully it clear up in coulpe of years.Now me personally I been going to T.J. 13 years{last few years its been almost everyother day}and I never had to deal with the cops.I wondering what mongers do to get the cops to pay them there mind?

 

[cdh77477]

Yeah, you get yourself a "Sindicatura card" and it's suppose to work like the "cross" that represents the crucifixion of Jesus that you wear around you neck. It's suppose to ward off the evil TJ police when they come to shake you down. It is said to work very similar to a cross when a vampire sees it right before it's about to take a bite out of your neck. The TJ cops are suppose to fear the 'Sindicatura card" and get scared just like vampires do.

The Sindicatura is the TJ police "internal affairs" where you are suppose to report corrupt TJ cops. They even have a website where you could report bad corrupt TJ cops, however the damn thing doesn't work, so really you have to go fill out a report in person, and ID the bad cops from books or somethings? I have yet to hear about a successful truthful outcome of a monger filing a report with them, but at least they get a card to put in their wallet in case they are stopped again.

Now I think the Sindicatura card is a good thing if you can get yourself one, or download a copy and keep it in your wallet. Some guys have reported they got good results using it, keep in mind of that group a few of those guys are known to make up stories, but I'm sure there are accurate reports too? There are also new recent reports of guys trying to use this cards, and it didn't make one bit of difference to the TJ cop, as they demanded a bribe anyway.

However, I don't think the 'card' works like a cross that when a TJ cop sees it he starts acting like a vampire when they see a holy cross? I think it works the same way in the movies, for some just like in the movies it works, but sometimes you see other movies, and some young teenager gets out a cross and shows it to the vampire, and the vampire says, those things only work in the movie, and then the vampire bites the guy or girl and they get turned into a vampire.

its' also sort of a pussy way of standing up to the TJ cops, where they are suppose to find it in your wallet, and then back away. You really don't need the card, for lets say the TJ cops starts shaking you down when you did nothing wrong, you can tell him to his face, "what's your badge number? I'm going to report you to the Sindicatura if you take any of my money! Now me I would just let them find the card if I had one.

 

[Bartholemew McBitesalot]

On some other sites I saw this thing called Sindictura ? card or something, if you carry that and flash it, I think we can avoid the Cops shakedowns ?

Alright I had to find something to keep you guys occupied, this could help some of us. Following posts copied and pasted from other threads.
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killit
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 57 Thought about sending him here and the other monger sites?

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I actully thought about give him more business bye send him links to these monger sites. {You know because all us mongers are always get robbed and shaked down by all the hoods in T.J.. }{FB I fond the link in the T.j. crigslist link you set up in the other tread about house an apartments for rent,and also in the thread they were escorts and driver to show you around on coulpe of the rentals.}


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Today, 04:08 PM #121
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Posts: 803 That's funny Killit. I should have thought of that service, with all this fear about the dangers of Tijuana, but the guy didn't talk about the other fear mongers have, and that's the fear of the TJ police, and how he would guarantee against shakedowns, if he did that, he would have guys lining up for the service?
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