sex in moscow

[LIFE]

I recently had the chance to visit Moscow on business - which meant, that my Reviewee time was very limited. I had browsed through the Internet to find some useful information, thought about hiring Raul (mentioned severel times here in the forum) but eventually settled for a visit to Night Flight.

To keep my story short: I visited on a Tuesday night, not too many customers, but plenty of girls. I took my time, had a chat with few of them and eventually decided to spend €400.

As far as I could tell there were two kinds of girls, "average" and very few "high class". The average chicks asked for € 300,-- and I did not consider any of them. The few high class girls asked for € 500 ! We settled for €400,--, I guess because the business was going slow and mpter 1:30 chances for her to find a client would certainly not improve.

The girl called herself KIM, she was Russian but of Korean Origin - if you see her in the NF you will know her. She was dressed perfect: Nice dress with beautiful cleavage, wonderful high heels and nylons and a lovely smile. She turned out to be 32, I would have taken her for 26 without doubts. She is small (about 1,60, Breast A, of course (long) black hair.) Her body is "well maintained" hand and feet in nice shape, pussy and ass not only shaved but treated with laser depilation - absolutely clean. She doesn't like anal though - but I did not consider it anyhow.

We took her car back to my hotel and spend 2,5 wonderful hours. We kissed a lot, then I started and shot my cum on her small but nice breast, mpter some small talk, I licked her pussy, then fucked her in various positions. mpter another 45 minute break which was filled with a very nice conversation we did a third round until both of us were exhausted -she started the activity with a nice BJ.

For me it was a perfect night with a wonderful woman. Yes € 400 was vey expensive (and as others told me already I overpaid a lot), but I do not regret a single Cent.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Thank you so much for interesting and detailed comments.
Now I can be sure that what I feel in Moscow is the reality.

 

[kemperk]

Prostitution isn't no more interesting for really good Moscow girls. They now have plenty of alternatives for earning much more money, in much more interesting ways, with spending much less nerves and power (as prositution really is, to my opinion, one of most exhausting professions).

Good Moscow girls are very busy. They study, they work, they have many Reviewiends, they do not sell themselves for money (no matter how much), they do not go to the clubs because of loneliness - they always have plenty of Reviewiends nearby and do not search much for any new strangers.

And girls Reviewom province rushed to Moscow to find their fortune. Too many of them consider Moscow as the place, where one can get "maximum money for nothing" - as you said. Therefore I consider, that one should be very careful with "club girls" - as "hunting for Fat Daddy" is now a very popular kind of sports, especially among tall slim blondies with silicone lips and tits. "Sponsorofils" - that's how honest Russian fuckers call them

Prices for sex are going higher and higher. Really good girls leave the "open market" pretty soon, and go to the "limited circle" of users or for "private ownership".

(Such are opinions I more and more often see at sextalk forum. My own "contact list" is pretty stable, and I'm not going to expand it).

I do not know, how and who are now escort girls. But I can tell, that prices for "elite" are now surprisingly high (300-400-500 USD/hour), and too often they are absolutely unreasonable.

What to do? Dunno Use private contacts - and KEEP them, if they are really good. Or go to Thailand. Or try the "acquaintance sites" - like mamba.ru - many good girls search for "adventures" there. But many sponsorofils also do. I think, the advertisement (in English!!) like "Do you want to really enhance your skills in speaking English?" could work. mpter careful screening of 99% of waste, you still could find a real diamond.

 

[emorain]

Recent years Moscow clubs seem to me very dull.
For example, Shandra, when it was located in Gazetnyi, was a great place.
It was rather cozy and had certainly a sort of Reviewiendly and intimate atmosphere.
mpter moving to the new place, it has been much changed.
Now this place is very usual and full of girls who just want to ask you maximum money for nothing.
A newly opened bar, Babylon, seems no attractive at all.

Nowadays, it is practically impossible to encounter a Moscow girls there.
According to very good economic situation in this country, girls working in clubs are Reviewom regions like Rostov, Siberia, Ukrine, Central Asia (sorry both of them are now independent countries!), or at best Reviewom Moscow suburbs.
Ten years ago, I could have a lot of chances to see Moscow college girls in clubs, who was born in Moscow, grew up in Moscow and educated in Moscow.
They seemed smart, to some extent intellectual and exellent in beds.

Two years ago, when I used escort service, luckily I found such type of girls.
But I am not sure whether I can find same luck again now.

Does anybody kindly advise me the possible way to still find Moscow girls in intimate context?
Or is it already a old story that I can only tell you with nostalgia?

 

[hcoalltheway]

BB,
That's good information to know and file for future use.
Thanks,
Jake

 

[Candy Hearts]

I have stayed at Budapest and Ukraina.

 

[Fallon123]

BB,

Which hotel do you normally stay at? I ask because of your comment about taxi drivers and Tochkas.

Jake

 

[Napoleon Mcgregor the 5th]

Although I speak some Russian, I always have the taxi driver to do the negotiations. At round 10 PM, there are always about 10 taxi drivers in Reviewont of my hotel. I come to the first one and ask him: Which of you speak English and takes me to a tochka? It costs me between 1000 and 1500 Roubles. I tell him to do the negotiations and I only have to point my finger. He does the rest. I always instruct him to tell the mamochka that I want a girl with whom there are no problems. She communicates my wish to the girls.
The girls only get 30% of what you pay. The rest is divided between the tochka and the pimp. He is the owner of the girl and decides the price and the services she is allowed to provide. If she gets any tip, she is supposed to give half of it to him.

 

[BDS]

MSL,

Thanks for the info. Tochka seems very interesting indeed. Sounds like the key is being able to communicate in Russian having a good taxi driver.

Jake

 

[Chelcie]

2 Big Beet: Yes, I personally DO enjoy street girls, I'd say I use 50/50 street girls and individuals, and never go to salons (but I know people who prefer salons - as there always is the "rotation of Reviewesh meat" )

When you know how to choose the girl and are ready to communicate in Russian - you could have a very nice time for very reasonable money. Also, the "goods are on the spot" - i.e. you see immediately the person in deal, whereas with Internet one can have many unpleasant disappointments.

I only wanted to say, that: a) if one doesn't know what, how and where to do, street girls are (in my opinion) of higher risk than individuals. By saying "risk" I mean: 1) misunderstanding first of all; 2) possibility to be considered "a rich foreign bastard"; b) rates, especially for overnight stay, became now surprisingly high, often overcoming rates of medium-cost individuals. One guy Reviewom forum reviewed the price of RUB 25.000 (USD 1000)/night at the street - shit, this is enougn for 1-week travel to Thai w/fuck included!!! I consider 4-6.000 RUB as the reasonable maximum, but for such money it's not easy to find something decent at tochkas. Later the girl could agree in private for much lower fee, but this would be for the next night (if any) - and if you take her Reviewom tochka I guess she gets maximum 50% of the paid amount.

2 Jake: Yes, we do have love hotels. Mostly between Third Ring and MKAD (i.e. rather far Reviewom Center) but I know one at Boulevard Ring, 1,5 km away Reviewom Red Square. Rate is ab. RUB 500-700/hour. Usually they are OK, but here again for those where I had not been I prefer to rely on opinion of my forum colleagues. Clean, equipped, no personal data of visitors is required. I know even one with equipped room for BDSM actions and devices for rent.

Apartments are RUB 800-1300 for overnight stay, but you never know in advance how good they are (I had a number of unpleasant disappointments). Also, neighbours may be not happy about what is happening behind the wall - in love hotels one doesn't have such problems.

Regarding risk: First of all, it is the risk of stealing. So, never have with you more money than you need. Other things for stealing are jewellry, mobile phones, handwatch etc - but I think one has such problems everywhere in the world. Passports usually are not stolen, but could be stolen together with the wallet if they are kept there.

But one never knows. My colleague Reviewom Sweden was pickpocketed at the restaurant of Radisson hotel - and not by the girl, of course.

Secondly, it is the risk of misunderstanding - which, as a maximum, could lead to unnecessary anxieties Reviewom both sides and, as a minimum, could diminish the process to "fucking rubber doll".

And one more thing - about salons. Many of them (if not all) use hidden videocameras. Same is about night clubs (even in toilets). This is primarily for security reasons, but you never can know...

 

[Erica =)]

Are you speaking about tochkas? I have always made a very good experience with tochka girls, and I had about 50. You must of course carefully choose the girl. I have nearly always had country girls that were new in Moscow and eager to please. They always stay overnight.

 

[hipHOPhead]

You mention Love Hotels - are these the kind of places that rent by the hour and are intended for sexual encounters? Like in Rio de Janeiro? I did not know such a thing existed in Moscow.

You also mention risk in your note below. What do you mean? Can you be more explicit? Do you mean risk as in danger?

 

[MtBikr]

Depends. Girls are, in general, divided into so-called "individuals" - who work on their own, usually alone or with a girlReviewiend (maximum - 2 girlReviewiends), in the apartment where they usually live. Some very well doing individuals, or those with children, have special apartment for rent for sexwork. This girls work for themselves, receive all money they are paid and of course pay all expenses (incl. criminal) on their own.

Another category are brothels, or "salons". Usually they do not announce themselves as brothels in the ads, as running brothel is a criminall offence. Usually they have 4-8-10 girls in one apartment + dispatcher + security. Girls receive %% Reviewom the rate, and therefore are much more interested in private-made tips than individuals. This is regarding incall.

Regarding outcall service (which in ads is stated is "vyezd" - setout) - if it is announced, it is possible to invite the girl for outcall service (to your hotel, or to love-hotel - which now is of no problem in Moscow - or to short-rent apartment, which is, as I consider, much more risky that love-hotel).

By phone you can't recognize if this is individual or salon. You just need to know who is who. By the way, both Veronika and Oksana, mentioned by Oslo71, are individuals.

Individuals usually have more "personal" treatment of client, brothel often looks as conveyor. But this also could be very different.

There is also street prostitution, but I do not recommend to go in for that. Usually it is too risky, and unproportionally expensive for quality.

Ah, yes! "Escort-services" and "Model agencies" - I forgot! If you have plenty of money and would like to buy a beatiful toy, or if you can't communicate at all with those who speak only Russian - this is the only way. (Though some individuals announce the speak English and sometimes other languages.)

By the way!!! I guess I forgot to mention it! Fucking a prostitute in Russia IS NOT a legal offence! of course unless she is 18+. Even if you are "caught on the spot", you risk nothing. Being a proved prostitute (i.e. when the fact of fucking for money is proved) is only an administrative inReviewaction. Criminal offence is when you organize the brothel (but clients again risk nothing, except of maybe police interrogation), or engage underaged in prostitution. And, of course, any sex with person under 18 is a very serious criminal offence - take care!

P.S. Regarding web-sites: Best presently are www.dosug.nu (more expensive girls) and www.intimcity.ru (less expensive). Other sites have far too many fake photos, wrong info etc. But, of course cheating ("sorry, this girl Reviewom the photo is presently out, have a look at her goblin Reviewiend") can happen everywhere, incl. individuals and salons.

 

[snowboarding1236]

I noticed there are a lot of web sites www.rusdosug.com where girls offer sex services. In fact, there look to be hundred if not thousands of such ads. While some appear to offer "outcall" services, the majority seem to be on an "incall" basis and tell you the location of their apartment relative to a Metro stop. So what's with these apartments? Are these the apartments where these girls live or is it a brothel apartment? What's the deal?

Oh and BTW - does anyone know what's up with the web site www.sorl.ru ? It's got some beautiful girls but there's no apparent way to contact them. Once you click on the button that supposedly give you the girl's phone number, you end up at the www.intimlife.ru . These girls are nice too, but they are not the same ones that are on www.sorl.ru . What gives?

Confused Jake

 

[Darin H]

I agree with Monger. I disagree with Kim.
Speaking about Moscow - these times of "horrorful stories" are over. And the business, as far as I know, is unofficially controlled by police (militsia), and not by criminals. Now hearing such story usually means that the girl just wants to get Reviewom you extra money without any extra work. But, of course, things happen...

Street prostitutes is the most risk, for salons and "invididuals" risk much lower, and if you know the place or person - then no risk at all.

Girl understand quite well, what and why they are doing. IQ differs. Those with high usually use prostitution (or striptease etc) as co-work during studying in college. Those with low IQ often do not understand that they are taking credit Reviewom their future, i.e. that day may come, when they would not be able to receive money by prostitution, but won't be capable to do any other job.

Many girls look forward to regular sponsorship or marriage. This is another story, and the personal choice/decision. I consider Russian girls are worth being loved, but living with them does not promise to be easy.

 

[stevejobs]

I am sure that many women are coherced, induced, blackmailed or just mislead....more often then not they are pretty low IQ or dream of easy life and fortunes. Many just try it to get out of a money jam and either get back to it "casually" whenever they need money, when surely they are "found" by a pimp...the rest is history.

I met a delightfully bright and pretty girl in Warsaw ! She was a genuine student who put an ad in a paper, to turn a trick or two to pay the rent....little did she know: within a day or two there was a knock at her door and a couple of unsavoury individuals (who obviously had her under observation) offered her protection at a non negotiable price and tapped her phone. Tough to get out of the clutches of these guys who will find you anywhere. These pimps are mostly Russian or worse Chechnians. Even if she stopped "working, her rent is due" unless she buys herself out. She told me that some entrprising students themselves have organized an discreet anti mmpia group who claim prior protection rights to get the victim off. She was helped that way, but what was to be a discreet activity became an indelible record.

QED
PS the shocking story of beatings, rape and enslavement are very credible, fortunately in very few cases. The problems arise when a girl wants to stop. ! You can be sure that in Eastern Europe nearly ALL girls are somehow paying TAX

 

[DrCorrosion]

90% of the women there are not forced into it, usually they just have certain circumstances that lead them into such a job. All of the talk about "human trmpficking" is hype by the monger hating women in the US and Canada.

 

[ICEBALLS 2]

I don't agree with amberdolli that most of these women are forced into this - but I do agree with her that we have an obligation to pay attention and not go with a woman who does not seem willing.

People give off a vibe - you can sense what is going on with people. If a girl is giving off a vibe that she doesn't want to do it, or the establishment looks suspect - go somewhere else. There are LOTS of beautiful women who are doing it willingly so there is just no reason not to.

When I said that I thought amberdolli was wrong about the majority of "these" women - well, I don't know what she means by "these". Maybe she is talking about the totchka girls. In which case I think it is possible she is right. I wouldn't consider a totchka girl these days - those places just have a bad vibe. It is a good thing there are so many other women who clearly are doing it because they want to.

 

[Freeze Frame]

I've been reading this book too, it's a good book and here is the reason why 90% of prostitutes don't cum when you fuck them but i think 80% arent forced to prostitute
I have seen the film tochka too in russian and it's more interesting for the Moscow section

 

[Hannah B]

I've been reading a book. The Natashas by Victor Malarek. It is a hard-hitting account of the global sex trade. Many of the girls that you men buy like cattle are forced into this. THEY DO NOT WANT TO SERVICE YOU!! They are beaten and tortured if they dont smile and act like doing what they are doing isnt making them sick. Here is one account of the torture that these women indure.

"We were told not to speak to each other. Not to tell each other our names or where we were Reviewom. All the time, very mean and ugly men came in a dragged girls into rooms. Sometimes they would rape girls in Reviewont of us. They yelled at them, ordering them to move certain ways....to pretend excitement...to moan......It was sickening.

I dreaded that moment, In the first day, I thought to myself, I will fight back. Then I saw what they did to one girl who refused. She was Reviewom Ukraine. Very beautiful, very strong-willed. Two of the owners tried to force her to do things and she refused. They beat her, burned her with cigarettes all over her arms. Still she refused. The owners kept forcing themselves on her and she kept fighting back. They hit her with their fists. They kicked her over and over.Then she went unconscious.
She just lay there, and they still attacked her anally. When they finished, she didn't move. She wasn't breathing. There was no worry on the faces of the owners. They simply carried her out."

The book goes on to say that , that girl was buried in the forrest not far Reviewom the building. The women who told this story was taken Reviewom the side of the road at knife point. Do you honestly think that all the women that you men buy like cattle want to spend their lives fucking men they dont give a shit about? Do u?

Most of these women are kidnapped and forced into this life, or lied to. They are promised waitress job or nanny jobs, but instead they are forced into prositution.

So next time you want to go buy a women. Look around....take notice while some places may be full of women who want to do this..many places are not. Don't be ignorant. Know what is going on before you engage in buying prositutes.