Relax - Upsell

[xsexixlexix]

I'm not a frecuent visitor to RELAX, but decided to give it a go yesturday. Took a girl upstairs, paid her 18,000 for the full hour. When we started the action she told me that if I wanted a bbbj it would cost me a extra 5,000 colones. Is this normal now a days in Relax?!?!

I know it is my fault because I did not negociate before we went in the room, but I remember on my previous visit I paid a flat fee for all services.

By the way has anyone noticed there is a dome camera near the shower at RELAX, next time you go for a shower or a dump be sure to smile.

 

[MiSs FuNkY]

Relax - Upsell

Interesting....I havent been to relax, but cant help wondering if this is something that needs to be negotiated. My only experience with MP's has been HLH, and I didn't negotiate since I didn't have any real preferences, and was satisfied with the outcome. Maybe a brother with more experience with relax can chime in... :|

 

[Judge Judy Sheindlin]

Relax - Upsell

I bet bang bang is doing everything in his power not to post about this....its got to be killing him !!! have a drank :roll:

 

[Graeme H]

Relax - Upsell

Interesting....I havent been to relax, but cant help wondering if this is something that needs to be negotiated. My only experience with MP's has been HLH, and I didn't negotiate since I didn't have any real preferences, and was satisfied with the outcome. Maybe a brother with more experience with relax can chime in... :|

Sure you should ALWAYS have the conversation if there is something you really want or dont want. My guess is this is NOT SOP for Relax. Danito, what was the chica's name?

BB would have this fixed in 5 minutes :!:

 

[Pompal 09.]

Relax - Upsell

if your taking a dump in a mp ......really ...I dont have comment :roll: .....hold it tell you get back to your hotel

 

[dokUnonkera]

Relax - Upsell

I know a lot of people disagree on this subject but if the girl doesn't want to stick my dirty dick in her mouth uncovered I won't blame her. If I had a rubber neck I'd still wear at least two. What's $10 bucks for great service? I mean, were you planning on giving her absolutely nothing?

It could be worse though- On my way into the room at HLH last week and my girl told me "the propina for the session is 10 thousand colones". This is before I had asked for anything regarding service.. nothing had been talked about. It wasn't said with a smile; that the reason was her baby needed milk; that she's going to phuck my eyes out and leave me whimpering in the corner; nothing. It was just a stern "the propina IS going to be '$20'". Needless to say the session was terminated immediately.

There's a reason Costa Ricans work in gringo hotels and MPs and it's not because we're handsome and good looking, but because there's more money in it. We make employment decisions with similar criteria.

If you didn't talk about it before you go in, it's really not an upsell. It's a sale. The girls have to ask otherwise most guys leave them with nothing. I had other girls ask for $10 for BBBJ and I'm liking that compared to the $20 that had become the norm. If a girl asks for $10 and you're shocked and disappointed then get a real job so you can afford this sport or stay home and spend hundreds dating ungrateful American girls. If a girl I like and want to be with tells me "$10" all I care about at that point is that it's pornstar and gfe. If she says yes to that $10 is a steal.

Heaven forbid someone who refuses to tip at a MP goes to HDR/KL at night and throws down $100 thinking he'll make it up tomorrow stiffing girls at MPs.

 

[XRusmerTesst]

Relax - Upsell

I have sessioned at Relax probably 30-40 times. I have never been asked for propina for anything and have always gotten bbbj and pretty much anything else I wanted. I have limited Espanol ability but have always been able to make myself understood to Chicas with almost no English ability. I have heard recently that one or two new girls that have been independents or working at HLH or New Fantasy have come there and tried to work the same game they got away with there. When word has gotten around it has been discouraged very quickly by management and other girls. Just my two cents.

 

[cdszkjsj]

Relax - Upsell

These day's i don't think it's a given, you will get a bbbj in relax or any of the other m.p.'s,without confirming beforehand...ask first,also spoiling them,buying food,gift's etc.will perhaps give an individual better service, but it leads to the girl's expecting thing's for services that used to be part of the price.....

 

[tikigal16]

Relax - Upsell

I know a lot of people disagree on this subject but if the girl doesn't want to stick my dirty dick in her mouth uncovered I won't blame her. If I had a rubber neck I'd still wear at least two. What's $10 bucks for great service? I mean, were you planning on giving her absolutely nothing?

It could be worse though- On my way into the room at HLH last week and my girl told me "the propina for the session is 10 thousand colones". This is before I had asked for anything regarding service.. nothing had been talked about. It wasn't said with a smile; that the reason was her baby needed milk; that she's going to phuck my eyes out and leave me whimpering in the corner; nothing. It was just a stern "the propina IS going to be '$20'". Needless to say the session was terminated immediately.

There's a reason Costa Ricans work in gringo hotels and MPs and it's not because we're handsome and good looking, but because there's more money in it. We make employment decisions with similar criteria.

If you didn't talk about it before you go in, it's really not an upsell. It's a sale. The girls have to ask otherwise most guys leave them with nothing. I had other girls ask for $10 for BBBJ and I'm liking that compared to the $20 that had become the norm. If a girl asks for $10 and you're shocked and disappointed then get a real job so you can afford this sport or stay home and spend hundreds dating ungrateful American girls. If a girl I like and want to be with tells me "$10" all I care about at that point is that it's pornstar and gfe. If she says yes to that $10 is a steal.

Heaven forbid someone who refuses to tip at a MP goes to HDR/KL at night and throws down $100 thinking he'll make it up tomorrow stiffing girls at MPs.

IMHO; a tip is a gratuity provided for excellent service. If I went to a hotel and a bellhop told me that he wanted 5 bucks to carry my one bag to my room, I am carrying my bag myself. In P4P, I see doing anything else as reinforcing bad behavior. The norm is not a 10 or 20 upsell for a BBBJ, as that is negotiable and should be included in the price. They are pulling that shit because they are getting away with it. My advice is negotiate everything up front and give a tip for good service. Otherwise, take a walk.

 

[Ray E]

Relax - Upsell

IMHO; a tip is a gratuity provided for excellent service.

agreed.

If I went to a hotel and a bellhop told me that he wanted 5 bucks to carry my one bag to my room, I am carrying my bag myself. In P4P, I see doing anything else as reinforcing bad behavior.

I understand the service aspect but this isn't bellhop or taxi driving. I can get a cab at home any day of the week and so can you. To think we'd give a bellhop $5-10 but are actually disputing whether a girl that sucks us off one way or the other deserves any extra. Kind of odd, huh?

BBBJ, as that is negotiable and should be included in the price.

Says who? Is there a manual or something. Girl tells me $10 for BBBJ and I say "Absolutely, can I take pics, leche in boca, etc?".

My advice is negotiate everything up front and give a tip for good service.

I agree about negotiating up front- before you give her money in the room. But while you and I will tip for good service, and usually intend to, the next five guys might leave with no propina because the girl didn't negotiate up front. Why shouldn't she? It's as negligent for her to assume she'll be rewarded financially for good service as it is for us to assume she will do everything we want without asking.

The same guys that bitch about throwing a little money around in CR probably waste hundreds tipping cute bartenders/waitresses and strippers back home between trips or date some lameass that wants everything but gives little. It's such bullshit really.

Read my original post though- girl tells me I have to tip her $20 before I ask for anything then I'm out and she's explaining to management why I just got my money back and won't return. Whereas, if a girl tells me she doesn't really like to do it but will for $10 and I'm saying "yes, if you also do a,b,c". She'll say yes and everyone's happy.

Nowhere am I implying one should be foolish with his money but trying to say I believe it's a balance- and even a learning curve- between not being exploited while trying not to exploit other people. I happen to believe if they put my meat in their mouths uncovered, they should at least be able to put some meat on the table.

But hey, we're also debating something that's a little off-topic from the OP's original question. I think we all have to know what we want going into a session and if a girl asks for money either terminate or negotiate extras for your money(pics, film, CIM, etc). $10 is not unreasonable imho, $20 is a lot.

 

[Cadillacman]

Relax - Upsell

I AGREE WITH CHILIMIKE. BB57 should straighten this whole thing out. He started it all, he sets all of the prices. He brings the customers and has been known to bring girls to work there from from other mps, that up sell. Now he is expanding his operation. He also has a girl fired with no cause at Relax. How do we think her Christmas is going to be?

 

[jony]

Relax - Upsell

IMHO; a tip is a gratuity provided for excellent service.

agreed.

If I went to a hotel and a bellhop told me that he wanted 5 bucks to carry my one bag to my room, I am carrying my bag myself. In P4P, I see doing anything else as reinforcing bad behavior.

I understand the service aspect but this isn't bellhop or taxi driving. I can get a cab at home any day of the week and so can you. To think we'd give a bellhop $5-10 but are actually disputing whether a girl that sucks us off one way or the other deserves any extra. Kind of odd, huh?

Not really. Think about the local prevailing wage rate in CR. I am not advocating not tipping, just tipping for reasonable service.

BBBJ, as that is negotiable and should be included in the price. Says who? Is there a manual or something. Girl tells me $10 for BBBJ and I say "Absolutely, can I take pics, leche in boca, etc?".

Nope, used to be the SOP until some guys allowed themselves be be upsold.

My advice is negotiate everything up front and give a tip for good service. I agree about negotiating up front- before you give her money in the room. But while you and I will tip for good service, and usually intend to, the next five guys might leave with no propina because the girl didn't negotiate up front. Why shouldn't she? It's as negligent for her to assume she'll be rewarded financially for good service as it is for us to assume she will do everything we want without asking.

That's the problem for the other five guys and Ticos generally tip a lot less, if anything at all. Its a leap of faith like anything else, but if she intends to give shitty service, I assure you people will notice and she will earn less.

The same guys that bitch about throwing a little money around in CR probably waste hundreds tipping cute bartenders/waitresses and strippers back home between trips or date some lameass that wants everything but gives little. It's such bullshit really.

Apples & Oranges; I tip in the U.S. 15-25% dependent again on service. If the service sucks, they get less or even nothing. The restaurant and bar business in the US is contingent on tipping. Most checks in CR and a lot of other countries include a 10% tip already. The concept of tipping hookers came from Gringlandia as well.

Read my original post though- girl tells me I have to tip her $20 before I ask for anything then I'm out and she's explaining to management why I just got my money back and won't return. Whereas, if a girl tells me she doesn't really like to do it but will for $10 and I'm saying "yes, if you also do a,b,c". She'll say yes and everyone's happy.

Back just a few years ago, it was an understanding that the BJ was sin condom, but two things happened; the word got out that venereal disease could be transmitted thru a BBBJ and girls realized they could up sell it as an add on service.

Nowhere am I implying one should be foolish with his money but trying to say I believe it's a balance- and even a learning curve- between not being exploited while trying not to exploit other people. I happen to believe if they put my meat in their mouths uncovered, they should at least be able to put some meat on the table.

You are not exploiting other people by holding them to a agreed upon deal. Now, if you were to say nail some sweetie up the pooper w/o that being a part of the deal, that would definitely be exploiting her and she would be due was additional compensation and some lube.

But hey, we're also debating something that's a little off-topic from the OP's original question. I think we all have to know what we want going into a session and if a girl asks for money either terminate or negotiate extras for your money(pics, film, CIM, etc). $10 is not unreasonable imho, $20 is a lot.

Agreed. :!:

 

[Michellie-Belle]

Relax - Upsell

I AGREE WITH CHILIMIKE. BB57 should straighten this whole thing out. He started it all, he sets all of the prices. He brings the customers and has been known to bring girls to work there from from other mps, that up sell. Now he is expanding his operation. He also has a girl fired with no cause at Relax. How do we think her Christmas is going to be?

He is in seclusion as all of us peasants have once again failed to appreciate the King.

 

[Joshua Woffenden]

Relax - Upsell

It seems you guys aren't happy unless you have something you can accuse someone of or criticize for (In this case BB57). Usually you have only third handed information and tend toward wild accusations that have no semblance to the truth. Lighten up and do something productive for a change.