Picking up Bad Energy from an Ill Client?

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Hello! I just registered with Body Work Online and have been practicing as a massage therapist for 5 years. I am also a Reiki Master.
My question is:
I am working on a 76 y.o. client that has "bone mets" and the cancer is also in her liver. She has a distended stomach and is jaundiced. I give her comfort massage with soothing touch and of course Reiki. My problem is that after the last 3 sessions I have pretty severe stomach and intestinal upsets.
I try to make sure that I am not picking up any bad energy but am wondering if anyone else has had this experience? I need to add that this is a very brave and upbeat person that I am working with. She usually has such good energy, but is just so ill now.

Thank you for any input you can give me!!
 


It can happen if you really care about a person and the session you are in. I find that I get tired after intense Reiki session, although I was taught this was not supposed to happen.

Are you doing anything for protection, bands of white light around your wrists? What techniques are you using to break the energy connection after a session?

I do a formal closing with an energy sweep and a little prayer protecting us both from picking up any residual energy in the room. I also will do a quick clearing with the symbols. I always wash my hands in cold water after a session.

I personally wear black tourmaline during my sessions to help keep the bad energy from my body. I will also use bands of white light around my writs and upper arms as a double layer of protection.
 


Is your client on any medications? Chemo?? If so, what you could be picking up is the meds/poisons.
 


I'd also suggest getting a couple good sized pieces of raw ruby, (at least an inch or more across by 1/4" thick) which you can generally find on ebay, as well as getting a few additional pieces of black tourmaline, and a good sized quartz cluster for the office space. You can use the raw ruby piece either by keeping it in a pocket or have it wrapped in silver wire and wear it around the neck as a pendant piece. Like black tourmaline it never needs to be cleared energetically, as it's self-clearing. Your quartz clusters can be used to clear other crystals, jewelry, and being like an "energetic room purifier" too.

You may also want to clear your space immediately before
and after her sessions. Set a prayer of intention before hand which includes a statement about any and all energies
which are released be transmuted into light and that any openings created by that "release" be re-filled with light &
healing. In addition consider taking a nice bath in sea salt
at the end of the day to clear your energy field of any "stuff" you may have picked up.

Also, before your client comes in, when you set your intention/prayer be sure to include sending cords of light from the palms & wrists, perhaps off the elbows too, into the earth and state that any energy exchange that takes place be one way only from you to her. Should any energy even start to enter into your body, it should immediately be sent into the cords you have previously set up and down into the earth to be transmuted. Once she leaves, be sure to fully clear your energy field, wash with cold water, from the elbows all the way to the fingertips.

I hope this is helpful and that you find you're able to keep your energy clear when working with this person.
 


Maybe you just caught a bug and it has nothing to do with this client?
 


I always include in my opening prayer:

"I recognize that what is mine, is mine, and what is [client name]'s is [client name]'s."

which better defines the boundary between therapist and client.
 


My problem is that after the last 3 sessions I have pretty severe stomach and intestinal upsets.



Softhearted,

Anytime something like this occurs more than once, especially with the same client, you have to consider its something more than a "bug" !
 


My bad, i didn't register the '3 sessions'. :roll:

Yeah, its something.
 


Thank you, all of you, for your input. While I do know to clear the room prior and after a session, sometimes I do forget to clear afterwards. I was shown how to "lock" my wrists to prevent pain/bad energy from ttraveling up my arms. After I started doing this I usually felt better after a Reiki session. But you are right, I do care a lot about this client. Have worked on her for almost 3 years now, I see her weekly and she is such a strong and positive energy herself.
The question about her chemo is a valid one, in fact she was just switched to a new type and it coincides with when I started having these upsets. The onset of my symptoms hit me( and I do mean hit me!) within 30-60 minutes after I leave her. I was going to inquire about that next week.
As for the use of crystals, I love that idea, I have read some on the use of crystals and even bought a beginners set but haven't had the time to pursue it any further than that.
The white light thing, I haven't heard about, or if I did, I have forgotten. Any more information on that would be most helpful and I will go back through my study guides and see if I can find anything about that.
Riversinger and Talenyn- you have given me a good start on how to handle this ( the white light and white bands) Thank you!!
I will also include the extra prayer in with my intentions.
As for what I use to break the energy connection? I use the sweeping of hands to break it and use the Z like symbol over her body. And I do wash with cold water.
So.,I think I have about 1/2 of it right and need to step it up a bit.
this is a great forum, so glad I found it.
 


For the bands of white light I literally visualize arm and wrist bands of light that stop energy flow up my arms, while allowing flow down my arms. It has always worked for me.

Selenite would also be a good choice for the room to absorb the negative energies as well as kyanite. Although I do agree with riversinger, a quartz cluster is also effective.

I think you are good for breaking the energy connection, you can always also bring your fingertips and thumb of each hand together (kind of like making your hand "talk" motion but not spread out, I hope that makes sense), this helps to closes the circuit and break the energy ties.

And don't forget to clear after! ;)

Good luck and let us know how the next session goes.
 


When one of my ladies had her chemo, I too felt sick afterwards. That particular chemo poison leached from the pores of her skin so strongly that the faintest of touches was sufficient to make me ill. The best thing I found to help me, in addition to energetic clearing, etc., was to go and soak in baking soda and sea salt almost instantly after energetic and massage bodywork. It didn't completely clear me body of the chemo I'd pick up from her, but, it sure took it down to where I didn't become ill. [She was always the last client of the day so I could follow that routine.]
 


AnastasiaB, I'm really glad you shared that piece. I have not had the "chemo-transference" experience personally, but a dear friend of mine did and it laid her out for DAYS, she couldn't move. She's not an MT, she is a very part time energy healer and just was not prepared. She went to visit our mutual friend whose standard poodle had recently begun chemo treatment, the dog would not leave her side and insisted on physical contact at all times. Not unlike the dog's usual temperament, but exaggerated. After the visit my friend got very ill. She called me a few days into it and I did not have much to offer aside from some long distance energy work. I will have to remember the detox soak. She said had she known ahead of time, she would have grounded and prepared herself for it.
I worked with the dog extensively as well throughout the course of his treatment and after, but did not have the same response. Maybe he was in a very toxic place that day and/or my friend is more highly sensitive than I. He did pass, sadly.
Gosh, given all that, it makes me wonder how it must be for the nurses and other medical staff that have to interface with the chemo patients, are they taking this stuff in?
Really good topic.
 


Well, I worked on this wonderful, positive, but very ill client again and I did much much better. I was more vigilent with my grounding remembering to clear the room (and area) after. I was pretty exhausted though.
I am debating wearing some vinyl gloves though, just in case some of this is from chemo leaching.
I just worry that it will somehow offend her and I always worry when I need to do something that takes me away from what I perceive as my caring and nuturing side.
Crazy, huh?
 


You're not crazy ! If anything you're learning to be wiser with your energy and how to protect yourself. All good things to learn in life & in your practice.

Aside from gloves there are a couple of products on the market which you can use (in a liquid form) to rub throughly over your hands and they seal the skin from anything getting through. I don't know for sure, but I believe it was called Nu-skin.
 


Nu-Skin, I think, is like a liquid ban-daid and i don't think it would be good for applying all over the hands. I apply it on small open cuts and I generally have to apply once between massages. If it was all over my hands I think it'd flake off. But it's really great for cuts and scabs and such.
 


Perhaps it was a different product then ! I'm to bleary
at this hour to recall for sure. Whatever the brand, it is
a clear liquid which dries almost instantly, but it can be used
over the hands and does not come off until you wash again with soap & water.
 


Better off using gloves. Easy to explain this to client as well. Simply tell her the chemo has been affecting you after each session, and you need a barrier to prevent problems. If the gloves fit well, she will notice little difference in the work and you will be safe.
 


I totally am okay with wearing gloves, I worked for years and years in a dental office where at times I also assisted the Dr. So gloves are like another layer of skin to me. I know this sounds silly, but I feel like as her therapist through all of this, I have been this caring, therapeutic person in her life and I worry that showing up with my gloves will make her think that I am suddenly not as caring.
Yes, I know,,, stupid on my part. Why in the heck do I let my mind do these things to me???
I was talking to a Nurse Anesthesist about my dilemma and she also suggested that this client, since she is so jaundiced and holding so much fluids, possibly has her own bodily toxins coming through her skin and I am picking that up.
So, I am definitely using gloves, I just have to view it as keeping myself helathy so I can continue to give her some relief.
 


I'm sure the gloves will be fine with your client, and as you said it will take care of any "transfer" problems easily.

Also, just to pass it along for anyone who may be interested the skin barrier stuff I mentioned previously is by
Skinvisible Pharmaceuticals, Inc. It's supposed to be an
anti-microbial skin protector. Active ingredient: Triclosan 1
Other ingredients: De-ionized water, Glycerine, Nonoxynol
9, Jatex 88, Aloe Triethanolamine, Germaill Plus, Carbopol
Ultrez-10.

The only times I've used the product was when I worked with a client who was HIV positive, and when I've had a small cut I didn't feel was significant enough to warrant wearing gloves.
 


I think that is a wise decision, cabwy. One of the side effects of most chemo drugs is leukemia. I've known cancer patients who survived the original cancer but did not survive the resulting leukemia....which is another type of cancer. :( Being exposed to that is for the purposes of fighting for one's life. Limiting exposure as much as possible is only prudent, otherwise.
 
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    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Phoenix are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  29. SAMMY2016:
    Z-ONE
  30. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Mia sexy body big boobs 36DD very good body slide and massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 14, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici โค๏ธ, Mia ๐ŸŒธ, Vicky ๐Ÿ’– and Lulu ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call 905-479-6668 to book your session!
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธZara๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธBreeCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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