Open Letter to the Owner of New Fantasy

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Sir,

I was told that your plan for New Fantasy from the get go was to open it for a while at the old prices and then turn it into a more expensive upscale place. With the price going up to 16,000 colones come the first of the year, it looks like you're taking the first step of that plan.

I am all in favor of anyone running their business to take best advantage of the market they can, and in this letter I want to question whether raising the prices further is going to be to your long run profit.

I know you, like a lot of us, spent a lot of time at NF when it first opened. It really did seem like a New kind of place. With Arianna cracking the whip the girls were especially accomodating, and the 12,000 colones was just a touch more expensive then other places and made it seem like an especially good value. There was a period of about six months when I went at least four times a week and spend my entire entertainment budget there. A lot of locals did the same, and they really had a high volume high spirited thing going.

Time passes and things change. Now I think the buzz about the place is a left over buzz. I think if you went there as a stranger you would have to admit it's not nearly as well run as it used to be. Tourists still go there based on what it was back then--but you certainly don't hear people on this board raving about it anymore. The front desk people aren't as into it, you don't have the presence the drug guy had, you have a lot more going-through-the-motion girls there, and it's much more of a routine experience--not a rip-off, but nothing special either.

Maybe the location and the steam room are such good selling points that even as the quality of the overall experience declines you'll still make money at higher prices. But maybe not. There's a couple of girls who works at Oasis who used to work at New Fantasy and they both claim they make more now on volume at Oasis, and I have a strong sense that you'll find the same thing is true on your house side of things.

If you read this board you know there are a lot places with better talent a mile or so away for 10,000 colones. You have a better location, it's true, but these places are more personable and are way better on price. They are your competition. I wish you could try the experiment of lowering the price back to 12,000 colones and look at your bottom line. I don't expect you'll do it, but if you did I think the results would surprise you. At 12,000 colones the place would start hopping again, and the buzz would come back and the better girls would again be lining up to work there.

Whenever discussions of price come up someone always does the math and shows that 16,000 now is only 13,358 then and gosh these people have to live. But the business point is that there are places doing well at 10,000 and I think you're making a mistake by not pricing in a way that regards them as your competition.

I do wish you the best of luck in your endeavours however you decide to pursue them, and would also like to thank you for opening the place back up and adding a venue to the mix even if it's one that at the new price I will no longer frequent.

Regards,
bookie
 
BOOKIE THANK YOU

Hi Bookie

I have to say congratulations.. you have just amazed me how some people hem and haw about $35 bucks.. I mean.. dude please... if 10.000 colones is your fancy then go at it but to sit and write a open letter such as this makes me realize that some people have way to much time on thier hands.

NF and Oasis are different.. NF has a steam and sauna. they have a premium location... hence they will have higher overhead yes???? Oasis has .. what 5 or 6 rooms.. they cram the girls in a small waiting area.. when ever i go there i have to pass the group to take a shower which is uncomfortable.. and the tables suck.... my last visit it took me almost 30 min to get back to my hotel with the traffic. the thing that they have going for them is they do get a good group of girls .. but even that is irregular.

I mean does this not make sense????

I dunno.. I was not going to respond to this...
hmmmmm maybe I will write an open letter to 747

an open letter to 747

please 747.. I know your prices are 4000 but please can you lower it to 1500 I would really apreciate it. :D

if they have to raise prices a little to compensate.. then so be it but to sit and say they should be inline as oasis is a little off.. don´t you think.

anyway.. peace brother.. and relax

Danielson
 


What's wrong in arguing for $35?

To me it is a matter of principle. Hey I want cheap pu*sy also, but damn, there has to be a limit in how hard you fight for a couple of bucks.

In Houston, I gladly pay 150 for an hour with a quality woman........now in CR I won't pay anywhere near that amount. I won't pay the 100 to the BM gals, but I won't try to take one out for 25 bucks either.

I try to find a happy medium.......I always tip the girls a couple of thousand colones for good service, however it is a choice.

Come on guys..........most of us make a decent living and make decent bucks or our asses wouldn't be on the airplane heading to CR.

I would hate to think the gentlemen on this board would bargain and bargain to get pu*sy for the least amount of money. Most of you guys spend at least a thousand bucks for the total trip for about 4 or so days, so what the hell is a few thousand colones here and there for good service.

It is a good thing to save money, but it is another to be too freaking cheap.
 
Hola baby

DEAR_JOHN said:
What's wrong in arguing for $35?

Hi Dildoman

your not actually arguing over $35 bucks but $13.00 the difference between 10.000 and 16000 colones give or take a few colones :D

the point is that bookie is comparing 2 different places ..

that would be like comparing 747 to oasis... and asking why isn´t oasis the same price level as 747.


anyway.. the point is moot.. it just amazes me that there are so many darn cheap people (pinche) . I just thank god that Im not in that financial situation to always be nickel and diming everything.

I have a good friend of mine thats like that.. this guy while we will be walking will spot a coin on the other side of the street and cross the street to go pick up a dime.. and then he has this big ass stupid grin like he just struck gold or something.. :lol: But still he´s a lovable guy :D


its a strange thing when your in CR when it comes to losing price perspective.

Í´ve often caught myself in similar situations... for example

I had a taxi that took me for a ride.. I should have asked him before hand how much.. I just forgot but normally the ride would be 1000 colones.. anyway this guy was a pirate cab driver and when I finally reached my destination.. he told me 1100.. me being from the bronx I said WHAT!!!!! esta loco I always pay 1000.. he of course he started arguing that its a 1100.. I then only gave him 1000 he got out of the cab and we almost duked it out..

I mean here I am a grown man in a situation where I would possibly be in a street fight kicking some poor slob ass..or vica versa.... when it dawn on me..

hey..I´m going to trade fists and possibly injure myself for 100 colones... thats 22 cents... :D .. can you imagine ..

what am I nuts :lol:


anyway. since my typing skills are pretty lame.. I just lost about 20 minutes of my life that i won´t be able to replace by responding to this.. :(

Happy Holidays to all in this fine group of guys and thanks for all your help..

Danielson :D
 


I agree with bookie. On Saturday my favourita had family commitments and was not scheduled to work at NF until Tuesday. Well no matter just hope in a cab to one of the places near Oasis only 650 colones which has showers in the rooms, a bed and an equal selection of fine chicas, and save a net 3350 which buys a very nice apres sexo at Macchu Picchu. I walked back taking the sights and smells in along the way. What a pleasant way to spend part of the day. So I have to agree any increase in price is making the competition even better.
 


Okay, 2 funny things in a row...

First, "A HOPE in a taxi..." How apt! Only thing more dangerous is a walk down the sidewalk, as it were...

Then, Seahawk. Dude, I'm thinking nobody will have a lot of sympathy because a $1 increase in sexual favors translates into a $700 budget shortfall or, worse, a reduction to 1.5 X per day!! I'm happy for you, though...

As consumers, IMHO, we should ALL do what is possible to encourage price restraint. Price inflation has killed many havens. Even Rio and, gulp, Buenos Aires are going haywire with new pricing.

My vote is that we squeeze the owners, but spoil the (good) chicas.

See you on the 23rd and the 30th.
 


So, I take my ass to Zona Blue.........I have a great session with Samantha.....so I give her a 2000 colone tip.........translates $4.30 in good ole USA money.

I have pity for anybody who thinks a small tip will bankrupt them........well not really.

Again, I will not pay $100 to anybody, be it a multi hour session or even an overnighter. I am not that generous, nor will I ever be.

Seahawk you might speak for yourself, I get laid quite often.........but if the chica deserves a small tip (she can't ask for it, oversell, or have bad service) she will get it by my choice.

I mean, what the hell is $5 lousy freaking bucks to anybody in here?
 


Bookie has a very valid point and I totaly agree wiith his letter.Yes New Fantasy has a much better facility and I in fact had a good session with a nice looking girl there this weekend.I thought the quality or talent looked a bit better than it did last trip this Sunday.I certaily was glad that they were in fact open yesterday afternoon.However I frequent Oasis a good bit and thay don't thave the same facilitties and location but their talent level in my opinion far exceeds New Fantasy and my percentage of realty good quality sessions has been much higer at Oasis than New Fantasy.You get a far better massage from girls I have been with at Oaisis as well if you care for that part which I enjoy almost as much as the sex personaly.I am all for keeping prices under control.Myself and a fellow board member were having a great time at a local tico strip bar with quality girls lst night and discussing the topic of cost of sevices relative to quality of experince and agreed that there is very little correlation between the two which I think could be an interesting poll.I frequent places for services from the whole spectrum ranging from 3000col. massge places to the Del Rey including Idem which is on the top end with the Del Rey.I think New Fantasy should think real hard about raising prices considering some of the competition out there.Not sure they should lower them neccecisarily but if they raise them there will be better options available in the same price range or cheaper.Just some opinions for what is worth .rbc100
 


Alot of good points have been made here. I can relate to Seahawks concern where a monger either lives here or visits frequently. I have seen the prices soar since 1993 and it is not reasonable considering the fact other commodities have not risen as much nor has the chica talent.

IMHO I think ALL our board members should focus their price sensitivity to an area that we can possibly help control.......NOT the MP but rather the independent chicas of the Del Rey. I often wanted to start a separate category on the board relating to this topic. If we work together rather than against each other we can bring about an equilibrium in Suppy-Demand at the DR. I'm sure some of you guys think i'm crazy but it can happen. Think of how many CRT members or readers of the board frequent the DR. If only we could have a day where we agree not to give in to the inflated prices!

Can't wait to hear the feedback on this one!
 


CRmarcos has a very valid point on independents.I have seen a decline in quality of talent as well as ability to negotiate in the Del Rey and Key Largo the last few trips which has further contributed to my venturing into the local scene.As far as propina for service my pecentage goes up considerably for the low prices places when I get good service becauase the girls generally only get about half the fee so in a cheap place they sure don't get paid well.I have a great deal of respect for the consistently good massage parlor girl because the has to be really hard work.I think the problems at the Del Rey are a lot more impotant for the GFE guys than me as a shoprt time guy as those girls have the portential to provide that type experience.
 
Hola baby

I remember a number of years ago while living in the Philippines I had "gone native" and was arguing over 25 centavos with a jeepney driver. I later realized that I was arguing over the equivelent of 1/2 of a penny and I knew it was time for me to leave the country.

Danielson said:
I had a taxi that took me for a ride.. I should have asked him before hand how much.. I just forgot but normally the ride would be 1000 colones.. anyway this guy was a pirate cab driver and when I finally reached my destination.. he told me 1100.. me being from the bronx I said WHAT!!!!! esta loco I always pay 1000.. he of course he started arguing that its a 1100.. I then only gave him 1000 he got out of the cab and we almost duked it out..

I mean here I am a grown man in a situation where I would possibly be in a street fight kicking some poor slob ass..or vica versa.... when it dawn on me..

hey..I´m going to trade fists and possibly injure myself for 100 colones... thats 22 cents... :D .. can you imagine ..
 
price of pu*sy

Thanks for all of the input. Speaking for myself, I know what the price of pu*sy really is in San Jose. That is the price I pay. I might ad that I havn't did a girl in the New Fantacy since they raised the price from 6000. I might have some interest if the price came back down to that price. Every time I stop in there lately there are at least 20 chicas and none of them working. Kind of reminds me of the Del Rey. Free Enterprise? SEAHAWK
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at ❤️💙 💜𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔💖💗💘: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  39. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5’6” & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  40. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  41. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️MAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  44. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have amazing girls today 🌸 HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday:💋💋New girl Angel💋💋 :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  49. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5’3” & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5’2” & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5’3” sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at ❤️💙 💜𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔💖💗💘: CHERRY, CICI, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu.
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