NO HANDS or Deep tissues massage?

[Som3a]

I have been having issues with pain in my wrists following massages for a while now, and have decided to take a couple of months off massaging for rest and to get the issue checked out medically. If I have no permanent damage, then after a couple of months I intend to go back to massge but only a couple of afternoons a week max.

I have a "NO HANDS" weekend course booked coming up soon, but I have heard from several sources that it is a very mixed bag - basically good technique but they use the 'hard sell' and VERY shady business practises such as subliminal messages (!). I am having doubts about this course now, I do not want to support a business that uses such practises and frankly if anybody tries to subliminally influence me into buying their products they will get a right mouthful from me!

I have recently been reading around deep tissues massage - could anyone tell me if 'standard' deep tissue massage (if there is such a thing) would be a good way to explore using other body parts for massage, or if this technique is also very hard on wrists and thumbs?

All feedback appreciated

 

[SwaJaceeeo]

hi there,
check out injury prevention massage, its straightforward, no hype, no gimmicks, no hard sell, no subliminal messages, they run small classes and dont shove a hundred people in a huge hall, they also have courses throughout the uk.

I learned this about 6 years ago, and still use the techniques quite a lot. Ive also had full body massage from people trained in injury prevention massage, and it feels great.

I highly recommend it.

 

[forgiven490]

I trained with Gerry Pyves in No Hands massage for several years right up to Master Practitioner, and was, for two years an instructor on their courses.

I can put your mind at rest and tell you that there is no subliminal stuff going on at all.

Whether you like Gerry's style of teaching and communicating is a personal issue, but the product is excellent and can be used for all deep tissue work with zero strain to the therapist. I use it all the time and have no strain or injuries.

If you do have pains in your wrists from massaging, you already have some degree of injury which could take a long time to heal even if you take a complete rest from using your hands No Hands massage offers a good way of avoiding injury in the first place or continuing to massage whilst recovering from an existing injury.

Just thought I'd say, in case you are wondering, that I am no longer working with the No Hands Massage Company and have no connections with them, so not trying to sell you anything I have an interest in.

Hope this helps.

Derek

 

[SMELS]

Hi Longvines,

I sympathise with your predicament. I have just had surgery on one of my wrists, second time in 9 months. I hope your situation is resolved soon.

Hi Richard,

I am sure that you have recommended the same TP to me in the past. Would you say that the techniques used are suitable for remedial work or is it more directed towards Swedish/Holistic massage?

I have had a look at their website and I think the nearest course to me is Essex. Had some great advice from BGFL...when are you going to start running courses down sowf?!

Dan

 

[it is occupied]

this matt/fozzyo on here teaches the injury preventation massage.

I do deep tissue/trigger point massage and hands-free techniques. You use your forearms in the hands-free and trigger point you tend to use your elbows quite a bit.

 

[Courtney L]

Hi Dan,
you can do deep tissue with the IPM, it is worth doing. (Hopefully September). I havent done the other course mentioned on here, but know people who either say good things about it or they hate it, I suppose its just one of those things.

 

[Fluff]

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated

 

[Hailey]

Hi Longvines, Fozzyo has also trained with NO HANDS in the past to Advanced level and gone on to train for IPM. Don't worry there is no 'funny stuff' going on, and as for the 'hard sell' at the end of the day all they are doing is giving you information about what else is on offer in the way of Training. You have booked and paid so you may as well see the show and learn what you can from them now, it's EXCEPTIONAL standard of Training anyway for the money you would not get that ANYWHERE else. Don't worry you wont be brainwashed, lol. hth.kx

 

[Phantom]

I did the initial No Hands weekend course and had a great time. I now incorporate some of the techniques from it into my regular massages. They are very useful for taking the strain away from your hands.

There IS a bit of a sell on the last afternoon, but that's fair enough - the first weekend is very cheap and some people want to go on and learn more. I didn't - but I'd definitely recommend going for the first three days.

 

[charlotte g]

I had a look at IPM website and also purchased a DVD. Unfortunately the school nearest to me is no longer running the course. From speaking to the ex-provider and looking at the DVD, I am not sold.

I have a nagging doubt about the 'No Hands' course. Hearing negative comments from one or two people is one thing but I have heard that from several sources so I won't be going down that route.

I would like to find a deep tissue course, any recommendations for the South East?

 

[LAgirl]

If you want a one-day introduction to deep tissue, I'd recommend a workshop by Jane Johnson: http://www.thelondonmassagecompany.com/workshop11
If you want a longer course, I'd recommend the Jing courses (Jing have been discussed on several previous threads).
I'd also recommend the Art Riggs DVDs, discussed on the earlier thread
http://www.healthypages.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=61858

Alan

 

[goo_head_83]

A bit of a broad sweep at ALL other training providers ?? without a working knowledge of each how could you possibly say that?
regards
BGFL

 

[Rhyaddan]

What were the negative comments? And how many positive comments would it take to change your mind? As I said above, I had a great time and found it really useful - and it only cost about £100 for three days. Bargain!

 

[joliee]

I've done the NO HANDS training, TT, practitioner, chair, reflex.. Loved it. VERY different feel to any other course you'll get and part of what you pay for is the experience. Back when I did mine they did do a hard sell bit in the middle to encourage us to go on, but I was never forced, I had faith in the techniques and my clients come to me because they also have faith in the techniques I now use. It has also meant that at times when I had problems I could continue to work, pain free. I had a car accident about a year ago and had shoulder problems, so could really only work with one arm, but I was still effective as a therapist and did not need to take time off.

Since I have done the course I've had a much higher client retention rate and I've felt more confident and had less pain. The intro courses are cheap and fantastic and I would advise any therapist to try them. £100 isn't much. 3 or 4 treatments if you injure yourself using standard massage practices?

You can then see if the style of teaching suits, have the basics, something new to add, begin to network with other therapists (so valuable) and take it from there, or leave it there. IPM is also well respected, Fozzyo does do IPM, I've never done it.. but I have spoken to others who really felt value in it.

DTM wont address this problem for you, but it's a great skill to have in terms of marketing and helping your clients - if you can afford it, do it!