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After a dramatic experience at Venus that afternoon I remembered seeing this place on st-catherine 3975 to be precise, I know it used to be a Chinese place but it closed down and now reopened with French owners as I was parking there was a girl just outside the place having a smoke she looked good from far and I was hopping she worked there. Walked in and was totally mesmerized the place looks like a million bucks everything was brand new, my inner voice told me to get the hell out but jr had other ideas this place looks to good to be deserted. The girl from outside was the same girl at the counter her name is Michelle about 5”9 with heels, mosquito bites for tits and not pretty nor ugly ok in the looks dept. and about 100lbs all wet she shows me the place since I have never been there before, they have a spa and a few rooms some with showers some with shared showers. She shows me a room and tells me its 40/hr just for the massage. Now I hope your sitting down for the next part, I strip and get on the table and she walks in, about 10 min into the massage she asks if I know about the options, I tell her every place is deferent so why don’t you tell me what the options here are spa 20 more if I want here there its 20 more for the top and 20 more for the bottom no touching allowed Thai available in the last 20 min for 60 release not included that’s 20 more I just stared at her and asked if she was kidding she told me that these were all standard prices. I put my head back down and said massage only no options. She then starts telling me that that’s how they make their money and if I don’t take any options she is working for free, I tell her go ask your boss to split the 40 with you for the prices you have set its not surprising this place is deserted.
She offered to get nude and give a hj for 40 I told no thanks jr wasn’t up to it anymore :mad: .

I don’t know what’s going on my luck in massage places has gone to the dogs what ever happened to the good old sweet care massage places that had the customers in mind instead of their wallets.
 
well 80 $ is standard thai and hj price everywhere unless u negotiate. i tried this place ttoo. its near pie ix. anyways had a beautifull girl, but massge left to be desire and in spa not much action. she had those pussy lips u wish u can suck on but of course off limits , spa she was fully nude as for massage as well.. repeat no, cause she had no emtion, therefore no chemistry. no alcohol to clean up either.
 
she quoted me 80 for the thai + 20 for a hj.
and your right no alcohol to clean up i guess they use it for other puposes?
 
CAme here the other night, really late, 2:45am, they are opened up to 4am on weekends... had this black girl (haitian), like 5.9" with nice C-D cups. the experience was whatever, massage was not the best, she doesnt know the sweet spots to massage, but what do you expect right? her name was marie-lynne. looks about in her 20s... 125lbs... long hair... nice eyes... nice lips you can imagine around you know where...
anyways, heres my report:
massage skills: 6/10
teasing skills: 7.5/10 there was some
face looks: 7/10
body looks: 8/10
handjob skills: 8/10
afterservice skills: 6.5/10 > just cleans you off with a kleenex tissue. i prefer the hot wet towel...
sanitary conditions: clean and nicely decorated. needs to up the heat a bit. afterall, we are butt naked there!
cost: entry: $40/hour > but she only spent 45mins.
extra: wanted $80 but talked it to $70
service rendered: full nudity, no access to Y, Thai, a very standard thai.
Total cost: $110.
repeat: hell no. ive had better service and price elsewhere. sorry.
 
I tried this place too.
Not very quiet, a lot of noise and the girl can not change the radio hard rock station because the receiver is in an other room and the room was busy !!

For the services very expensive, they wanted to give me a card with a 30 free for a next time and I said no Thanks !!
 
It seems, most often when you get a price list,
say $80 for Thai + $20 for hand job
then we get just that ! and nothing else....

All in all - a price list is often a rip-off

$50 should get you to the moon & back at most places
 
more then half of the places owners dont give any money to the maseuse, its commun, we make money of the options.
standers are 80$ thai massage and hand job, all salons are the same, exept some girls who offer more options but thats up to them not the salon.
So it is true if you dont take an option were not getting payed! you have to remember this, we cant just go up to the maneger and say ' I want half of that 40$' lol were gonna get laughed at! cause thats just how it works!
You want my advice? shop around, forum ,ect, read reviews, look a girl pics ont the websites and be sure of what you realy like.
And if you want more options? dont expect a masseuse to give you any of that, ok yes some will but thats not the place, escorte will do iy all for the same price! So dont blame a masseuse if thats what you wanted and she dident give it to you!
You want a therepudic (have no clue how the write that!) then go see a professionnel, it al cost you a lot less! please do not come in a erotic salon and ask for the basics, no one likes to work for free!
You dont like the options? to expensive? tell the lady and leave, pretty much all places will give you your money back, so youll know were you stand and wont go back there again!
 
Hello Little Nadia

You are right that 80$ is the standard for a Thai massage the only problem I have with this is that 98% of the girls that offer this have no clue what a Thai is? rubbing your bubies on my back for 5 min is not a Thai, and this is what they do so most people have gotten burn so many times they don’t want it anymore so this forces the girl to pick up her prices for the other options to witch I feel is not acceptable.

This next point is only my opinion and probably not the standard but her goes and don’t get all upset at me, if a girl does not allow access to the y and what I mean by that is gentle rubbing not fisting then she should maybe select another type of work, as you said they are not pros and only make their money on the options, if they cant massage and you cant touch them then whets the point of them being there. All this does is cause a lot people to bad mouth the salon making even less people wanting to go there causing the mp to pick up the prices even more.
 
Well I wouldn't go that far. But what you describe with very limited touching is for me a variation of a nude HJ. An acceptable service for me but it's not worth $100 tip.

The problem with thai is it never means the same thing and that isn't our fault. It ranges from that rubbing you mentioned to full service. I'm with Jack on the other thread on this one. I'll say no unless it's explained to me what I'm getting for $160. Most things I buy for $160 come with a warranty.
 
10-4: t'as oublier: allo la police..... and no more massages :(
 
Come on guys. Get real. We all know that there are a variety of services/prices out there and eforum.xxx is a great way to figure out where to get what you want. Nadia is right: many salons give nothing to the girl out of the entrance fee and she makes her money entirely on tips/options/extras. So of course she is going to be upset if you take 0 options. Personally I think the masseuse should get something out of the door fee, but beating up on the masseuse about this is not helpful.

Here are three types of massage experiences you can get in Montreal:

1) A fancy salon with spa where you pay $60/hr to get in the door, the girls are hot, they read you a list of options from the get go with an emphasis on Thai for $80, the girl keeps her g-string on, no touching the Y, she doesn't know how to give a massage, Thai means rubbing her tits on your back for a few minutes, no real body slide, the girl is a primadonna and thinks that because she's so beautiful that is enough to merit the fee, she keeps you at arms length as best she can, and you are out of there in 45 min door to door. I've been there. I hate it. I've learned to avoid it.

2) Some of these fancy salons however have girls who offer a decent service for the $60 + $80. It's some combination of a bit higher mileage, a decent massage, some real human warmth and intimacy, a skillful Thai, fun play in the tub, some genuine eroticism. It's true that most of these places really expect you to take the $80 option, so don't go if that's not what you want. For me if I get good enough service for my $60 + $80 then it's worth it.

3) Other places focus on the massage, and the HJ at the end is really just icing on the cake. These tend to be less fancy places, less likely to have DDG 20 year olds. Here you are more likely to get that elusive $20 industry standard HJ.

The good news is you can make an informed choice thanks to eforum.xxx and mm. Do a little research, go to the place that offers the service/price you are looking for and stop whining about scenario 1 and 2 if that's not what you want.
 
Muddy, I don’t see anybody whining in this thread other than maybe Bucckkoo’s masseuse who obviously turned him off completely and then dealt with it by suggesting regardless of that this is a place you need to take options. So with that it seems she then managed to turn him off to the entire establishment. And with his experience and the reviews of two others an establishment has been identified that definitely fits into your first category and wouldn’t get me there in this lifetime. Stop whining about it? I say thanks for the good reviews.

Thai is a scam to many of us. The industry has made it that way. If now you are required to take a version of that when you walk in the door because it is an “erotic” establishment they should post a sign in the lobby to that effect quoting a minimum required tip and see how that works out for them.

You may not be a fan of the $20 hand job. But establishments that welcome that service and are absent of greed are often places where the most enjoyable session can be had which may or may not include options. The quest for the pearl. If not, it was only an extra $20 adventure.
 
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  40. ASPA:
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  42. bnwellness_wilson:
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  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  44. ForeverWarden:
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  47. Endless Joy Spa:
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  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY, ELLA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  49. Lulu1980:
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  50. sunnyrocks:
    Condo massage
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