Latinas/Arabs/Persians in Frankfurt? Longer Sessions?

[humblepie]

This is good stuff and I really appreciate it! I think you have completely changed my approach to FKK'ing (Oase'ing, in my case) from now on. I'm going to be a lot less passive and a lot more social. Just have fun with it and if I don't click with a girl (i.e. she doesn't seem to "submit" to me) I'm going to get rid of her just like out there in the real world.

 

[Ihtiyorhon M]

Meeting a girl anywhere in the club, maybe at the bar or back by the whirlpool, or in the main lounge immediately adjacent to the kino: it's all the same and it's a legimate request to "get to know you" (or "kennen lernen" in German) in the kino. If a girl balks or hesitates to make the walk to the kino in order to spend (what should be "free" get-to-know-eachother time) raises a red flag to me. If a girl says: "But the zimmer is closer than the kino, schatze...blah, blah...take a re serious look at whether you want to gamble with her. 8 times out of 10, I would abort the whole thing (just like in poker, fold the hand and wait for new cards to play)... A girl who doesn't want to spend some extra time with me on the couch pre-zimmer, is likely (not definitely, however) a processor. 9 x out of 10 a Romanian. But if a girl who will invest some of HER time to get to know you on the couch or elsewhere: well, that's a girl I give a deep look into. A girl who is in a rush to the zimmer, is just looking at you as a quick 50/100e note. I want a girl who (pretends) to look at me like a "lover." It's easy to see which girls want to play my game, and which girls want me to play HER game. I make sure the girls I invite to the zimmer play MY game...It's that simple...

S

 

[Rylee]

Very interesting. This will be my third annual visit to Germany/Frankfurt/Oase and I had not considered that this year would be any more of a buyer's market than previous years. Unfortunately for me, the USD has slid more than 12% vs the EU over the last month!

What do you think about meeting a girl around the facilities and when she propositions you - asking her to "get to know her better" in the relaxed kino atmosphere? Usually I just go sit in the kino and see who comes up to me but that sucks.

 

[J A]

Let me add that, in my opinion, the FKK dynamics have changed somewhat in favour of we male guests. I mean that, given recent financial trends, it is now more than ever before very much a "buyer's market" at these FKKs. The girls need your business more you need a specific girl.

This translates into a certain implied negotiation advantage for me when I engage for the first time an interesting prospect at Oase. I let her know what I want during a session and I let her know what I DON'T want. I let known, in a tactfull way, that I am not interested in girls who charge for time on the couch, whether it is simply talking or more (Dfk, fondling, bbbj...). "If your approach is to start to clock 'ins kino' then Danke, aber nein Danke..." If on the other hand, a girl is willing to sit with me on the kino couch and "let things go where they will" then that is the kind girl I get a green light with. I can always abort the whole thing without cost if I get some red flags in the kino, right? As long as I stop her from doing bbbj, I am not comitted to the session. I don't take advantage, however, by long dfking and then telling the girl to piss off...that is not cricket!

S

 

[bossglaus]

Appreciate you sharing your approach. I think Everhard's point is valid, though, as my original question was around specific numbers and extending sessions via free kino time.

 

[Tiffany Y]

I don't get so wrapped up in the specific numbers, myself. I just know, by instinct, that a girl who tries to push me into the zimmer pre-maturely, will NOT provide the kind of session I personally seek. If you can understand, either by asking directly or some other non-specific sign, that a girl will charge for time in the kino, then I can safely conclude that she is NOT the girl for me...and I seldom take this type to zimmer. That's all...

S

 

[sant kabir]

Soulmate,

I think we understand your method better now. Sound advice. Thanks for the clarification.

Will I adjust my own routine by asking if the kino time is free? Not sure. The sharks will say no anyway I suspect. So the question remains, is it a method to get 30 minutes instead of 22, or is it a method to get more than a half hour for 50e? If so, by how much.....

 

[? Christina angel baby ?]

You have to understand that my "game plan" inside Oase, usually, is as follows:

I know I can manage, both financially and biologically, to session with 2 maybe 3 girls max. I generally am looking for 60mins/100e quality gfe sessions, rather than an array of quickie, possibly lack-lustre 50e sessions.

So part of my modus operanti is to interact with as many girls as possible and get the "flirt couch action" free as much as I can/desire within the bounds and rules of the FKKs, i.e. go as far as I can with certain girls, without letting them suck me pre-zimmer. Then I can always abort if I don't want to session with a girl or am not sure...

The key for me is to always be honest and if I get some pre-zimmer dfk and hj fondling, etc., it is usually the girl who initiates this. I just try to sell myself as a good zimmer prospect from the girls' point of view, dangling out the possibility that I might stay well over the minimum 50e session, but not promising to do so. I let her know that I want a girlfriend and to have/give love for an hour or more, but I need to find the right partner, who is patient with me, and understands what I want, etc. etc.

I then let the girl, sell herself and let her push the boundaries of the couch action in her attempt to get me in the room for possibly an above average pay off.

I approach with empahthy all contacts in the kino, sometimes just sitting there and waiting for the right girl to approach me before I start pushing her buttons, so to speak. True, you have to be able to judge these girls character and intentions quick...I mean you have to get a read on them fast. Often I can have a pre-read on a girl even before I or she makes contact, just from observing her with other guys or indeed her friends/clique. The crowd she hangs out with is sometimes, not always, a clue as to how she might be in the zimmer...Got to use all information.

But in the end it comes down to: being confident, honest, and having good radar as to which girls you can hit the right chemistry with to ensure a decent to above average session. It really helps to let the girl know, without saying it, that you are in the market for a top gfe, but there are so many other choices, so let this girl sell herself to you...

Catch my drift...?

S

 

[princess_of_god_89]

Soulmate,

How much free sex time extra do you get on average with your method? ( the purpose of Closer, as I understood)

How often do you pop the question with your tried and tested girls to show them you are still in control?

 

[Princess Cherbs]

This is really great to know, thanks. What percentage of the time do you end up sessioning with the girl AFTER making out with them and/or touching their tits/pussy? Wondering how often you turn them down and what that conversation is like.

Can you provide a little more detail on exactly how you go about this? Does this happen once you start fondling, kissing, etc - or do you ask her when she first sits down?

Better yet - do you meet girls OUTSIDE the kino and then tell them you'd like to "get to know" them INSIDE the kino before committing to the room? That would be the ultimate.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I have been doing this direct method for the past ten years at Oase. I ask and by asking send a subtle message. Result: Never once have I been charged for "free" couch time in the kino or elsewhere "aussen zimmer"...very positive results, indeed. Be confident and let the girl know that YOU know how to play the fkk game and you can avoid rip offs.


S

 

[ducky14528]

By all means do it, and please report on the result so that we can have som insight.

 

[Sergio]

Why do you say this? Why not just ask her point blank at the beginning of the encounter in the kino --i.e. before you get too comitted to a zimmer session-- whether she sees the get-to-know-you-ins-kino-zeit as chargeable time or as "free." You cannot loose that way, right?

S

 

[StiniuttyTat]

There is really no guarantee a girl will not start the clock in the kino. Most girls will not, but you will not find out until afterwards.

As for your original question, it is basic negotiating one on one. It depends mostly on your skill at negotiating, but give it a try.

Specifically about Mercedes and not getting short changed, I suggest this. Look her in the eyes and tell her you like her and would want to session with her, but are concerned if you would get the full time, that you would want that. Either she says you will get the full time for

 

[Phat_Rabbit]

My strategy may be to spend more time in the Kino as opposed to negotiating for lower prices or longer time for money. For example, even with Mercedes I would find that she would cut the session at 20 to 25 minutes in and then I would extend it and get another 22.5 mins. Well that's 100 euros for 45 mins and if you're going to book 4 sessions, for example, it adds up! Plus, for every session I'm booking back to back I'm getting zero Kino foreplay time. So instead of 50 euros getting me 30 mins in the room and perhaps 15 to 30 mins in the Kino, I'm getting just 22 mins.

 

[Spindrift]

Mercedes delivers a fine porn star experience, though visually she is not really my type. As I understand it, she has daytime job, so probably best opportunity to meet her is on a weekend.

 

[joliesoleil]

Like asking what an American girl looks like... But they generally don't look like Persians, Arabs or Latinos. You'll find a lot of teenie types at World, who probably are brunettes (but need not be), probably white-skinned, probably young and probably slim. I think some of them are great fucks, but then I don't go for big arses.

In any of the Big Three you'll find some big arses. Guaranteed. And female too. ;-) Probably more Latinos at Oase. I wouldn't get too fixed on this. Just relax and go.

Mercedes, the big Egyptian you refer to elsewhere, has, I understand, moved from Oase to Palace. Whether she is still there, I do not know. I tend to avoid Palace, and Mercedes in fact.

No. I think the chances are slim unless it's a very slow night. But the prices are pretty fair anyway in my opinion. I'll negotiate on services, but do not on price.

 

[kennya14635b9x]

I too like olive skinned but with biggg breastests!!!

 

[Danu]

What do Balkan girls look like? Would there be more Latina/Arab/Persians at Oase or Palace?

Regarding negotiation, any stories of successfully doing so?

 

[Paranormal Kitty]

1) Palace more than World. In the latter you will find a very high percentage of girls of Balkan origin. Not to be sniffed at at all, but clearly not belonging to your target group.

2) You could try to negotiate. Why not? Obviously your chances are going to be higher on slower days, than at busy weekends or during trade fairs when the girls are running around with smoking vaginas.