Im 27 and have back problems!!!

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Hi

This is my first post in this forum and would like to say "Hi" to all you good people!

Ok, I'm 27 years old and seem to have back problems and am hoping some here can offer some advice.

Last year "out of the blue", I had such bad back pain that I could not put any weight on my feet. Basically I could not stand for a week. After 1 week suddenly I was able to walk again, but with a little pain. After a few days, it was like I never had a back problem.

A few months ago, the same thing happened again. For example, "out of the blue", I was again not able to walk at all, because I could not handle the pain when I put my feet on the floor. This time I was in bed for 3 days and thought to myself, I should not be having this problem at this age. So I got my girlfriend the call the doctor. The doctor came down and examined my lowerback. He said that "one of your disks is slightly out of place!". He phoned the hospital. The ambulance came and said "can you walk" I said "No". So they gave me some sort of gas (the same sort they give women when they are giving birth.) They said this will take the pain away temporarily so you can walk to the ambulance van, and we will take you to the hospital.

After waiting in the hospital for a long time, another doctor looked at my back and said, I see nothing wrong with your back!!!

Im thinking "How can that be!". 1 doctor said only a few hours ago that I have a disk slightly out of place, and now this doctor is saying that you are perfectly ok? Then she said, you can go home when you are ready.

So I get up and start walking!!!! The effects of that gas were off very quickly so it was not the gas. My back was actually better, although a little saw. The only logical explanation I can come up with is the following:

While I was on that gas, and was walking, the disk must have slipped back into place!

But now, every now and again, I get sharp pains in my back and my back feels really weak. I am afraid that the disk might slip out of place again.

Does anyone know whats wrong with my back? and give me some advice?

Please help

Thanks
 
I don't know what's wrong with your back: possibly it was an intervertebral disc which had ruptured so that it was pressing on a nerve, causing the pain and weakness. Most of us have "slipping" discs: it's only when they press on a nerve that we realise the damage, as the muscles go into spasm as a response. The lie down and the relaxation caused by the gas were probably key to your recovery: the pressure on the nerve alleviated, the muscles relaxed and you were comfortable again.

Get your back strong and be aware of your posture. I'd advise Pilates (but then I'm a Pilates Teacher - I got into it because of a slipped disc myself, and I've helped many to strengthen their spines and so help prevent future painful episodes. ) or core stability of some form. Posture is very important, as is nutrition, activity, and state of mind.

If you search HP for back pain you'll find a variety of advice

Here's an interesting web-site about back pain. www.backdetective.com

Sharon
 
spinal music - Thanks for the reply. I have never heard of Pilates before and will be doing research to find out what it is or means.

Yesterday, I started feeling slight pain in my back when walking and thought "Oh no!!". When I got back home, I did some basic back exercises I found on the internet and felt much much better. While I was doing these exercises I could hear my back (possibly spine) clicking.

If you have any recommended source of information about Pilates I would appriciate it very much.

Thanks for the advice.
 
Hi Narmi2.

I hope things have improved by now, so is no longer needed.

Vertebral or more properly intervertebral disks (as Spinal Music points out) don't slip in and out or even get a bit displaced. They can bulge (herniate), which may be the case or they can fuly prolapse (burst), which in your case sounds extremely unlikely as they take much longer to settle when that happens.

For it to come and go so quickly and as the pain is in the back only, then it's most liklely that the problem is known as a facet joint lock / irritation. Although painful this is not a serious problem and ususally remedied with a few osteopathic treatments and advice on appropriate stretches, etc.

Andrew.
 
Haven't been to this thread for a long time, got tied up in other issues I have!

Anyway, the back pain is back although nowhere near as bad as it has been in the past. But things are slightly different this time round. I feel the pain going down the back of my right leg slightly above where the lower leg joins the upper leg. I am also experiencing a strange uncomfortable feeling in my right foot?
 
Sorry to hear you're having problems again!

Have you tried pilates yet? It really can be very effective, so I hope you've given it some thought.

I haven't really anything extra to add, because I am far from an expert (let's leave that to Andrew and Sharon!) Re: your back pain at a young age- I am sure I remember reading that "slipped disks" can be quite common in younger men, even more so if they play contact sports....so perhaps you're not an anomaly after all?!
 
PS-

Forgot to say: I suffered from back pain about 6 months ago at the grand old age of 17!!! It was in the lumbar and sometimes the pain shot down my leg, and hurt when I turned my foot out to the side so I wondered if it could be the piriformis. However, when I went to an osteopath (would recommend them!) She looked at my history in a lot of depth and it turned out that during the 10 week non weightbearing period following a severe knee injury, my leg stopped growing. This means that one of my legs is about 3/4 mm shorter, causing an imbalance in my hips (and knock oneffect tomy shoulders.)So you see, not all back pain is simply due to wear and tear resulting from old age!!
 
Hi Azalia

Sorry to hear about your back problems too.

No I have not tried out pilates. Havn't built up enough "courage" for that yet.


That bit rings bells! Something similar happens to me but the pain doesn't shoot down and stop, it shoots down and stays.


Wow, I never knew you couldhave "grand", "old", and "17" together in a sentence together!

Best wishes
Narmi
 
Narmi it sounds like sciatica, which can have a few possible origins - all advice as before.

Or you could try tapping on it! "Even though I have a funny feeling in my footetc......" Get down to the nitty gritty of it and you may find your symproms clear up this way. I've used tapping with some success with client's pain, and it works - and with your previous experiences it may just work for you when you are in pain.

Sharon.
 
Hello - I'm new here and can sympathesise with having LBP in your 20's. When I was 21 (I'm now 24) and I was 3 months post qualifying as a physiotherapist a patient fell on me prolapsing my disc at L4/5. I have had to give up work as a physio and still rely on Cocodamol and Tramadol daily to keep going. I stillonly getbetween 3 - 5 hrs sleep at night. I went through a time of feeling like there was no hope (I was a marathon runner) however now realise that there are so many people worse off and have concentrated my energy into music.

It is very frustrating and I do wonder what I'll be like in 10 years time.

Iwould have to agree that narmi2 should concentrate on core stability pilates type exercises to improve the stability of your lumbar spine and hopefully prevent recurrence of the problem.
 
Thanks for all the advice. It is VERY appreciated!

titch11 - Sorry to hear about your back. But it's great to know you've found interest in music! Each time I get an episode I also think, what am I going to be going through in the future. Hope things workout for you.

I haveFINALLY decided to pull myself together and go get this checked out. But first I have the monuments task of trying to persuade my doctor to refer me to an osteopath.

spinal music -I was able to get into your website when you first PMed me, but I can't get in anymore. Have you removed the website?

Also, what kind of nutrition do I need to be looking into to help with my back problem? Only reason I am asking this is because, I've just noticed when IDONT eat unhealthy foods, I always seems to get back problems. I'm quessing its because, although the food is unhealthy there is a lot of nutrition in there to, which I am probably loosing out on when I try to eat healthy!

So if someone could suggestion nutrition that would be great.

Best wishes
Narmi
 
HI Narmi - my web-site is being re-furbed - should be back up and running in the next week or so. Was there anything you wanted to ask?
As far as nutrition is concerned - you do need a balance of fats, carbs and protein, so if your version of"healthy" is no fat, loads of fruit and veg, and a bit of protein, then your body will suffer. How much you need depends on your height and build. Are you quite a big person?
Sharon.
 
Hi Sharon,

I've just been to the doctors and he would not refer me! He gave me some
Diciofenac Sodium Tablets and said take them for a week and if nothing happens we will have to talk about physiotherapy. The problem is this back pain of mine always seems to last a week lol. But I wanted to go to the osteopath to find out the real reason why I am having this pain, but he would not listen.

Anyway, currently my back pain hurts the most when I sit. If I sit for about 30 minutes I can hardly walk because of the pain. But if I keep walking or if I lay down its not too bad.

I would not say I am overly big. I am 5ft 10" tall and weigh slightly over 13 stones. I checked out a height to weight ratio chart and I should weigh 11 stones for my height. So am about 2 stones over weight.

I'm thinking about taking vitamin tablets to make up for any loss or nutrition. What do you think?

Also about your website, I wanted to know if there is anyplace close to where I live which does Pilates classes.

Thanks for the info
Narmi
 
Should I be concerned about the following:

the first time this happened the frequency of stool passing decreased dramatically but now the frequency has increased4 times!

Sorry for being so blunt!

Narmi
 
Narmi you could try the [link=http://www.bodycontrol.co.uk]www.bodycontrol.co.uk[/link] site for an instructor, or e-mail me if you like and I'll see if I know someone in your area.
The Guardian/Observer newspapers are offering an on-line diet plan - it looks pretty sensible -[link=http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/]Here[/link]
Yes to the vitamins and minerals.
The tablets might be causing the problem - have a look at the side effects.
You can take yourself off to an osteopath if you want to. It depends what sort of relationship you have with your doctor - if doing your own thing would interfere with a good relationship and he can refer you to a good physio, then that's fine. Otherwise do your own thing.
Sharon.
 
Sharon thanks for the links! Some really useful info in the diet link. I seem to have found 2 pilates teachers in my town! Thanks

I'm not sure how to go about finding a ostiopath without my doctor? Do I look in the yellow pages or something?
 
Great stuff.
If you haven't a recommendation to go on then there's certainlya directory of osteopaths - Anahata would be the person to ask about that. Perhaps you could start a new thread?
Sharon
 
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    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. *NEW Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a model like body, 5โ€™4โ€ with sweet D Cups, nice massage, incredible services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€"
  29. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with 36DD open mind and Young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Selina with big buttocks 30โ€™s and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  30. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  31. eyano99:
    Aurora
  32. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 2 Asian girl later tonight
  33. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana๐Ÿ˜˜ is a sexy young slim Malaysian g
  34. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SASHA, RIYA, PRETTI and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด: 3 Hot Girls today at Alice Spa: *New Today . ELLA: is a small white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbby cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. KIKI: A young, short & petite Taiwanese cutie, firm body, 5โ€™2โ€, natural C Cups. Kiki has strong massage skills & excellent services, amazing bbbj
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Shasa,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. SugarLoveSpa:
    : Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA & CHERRY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs
  40. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธNina โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธSophia๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKarla๐ŸŒธCamila โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA . 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations
  44. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐ŸHAPPY & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  45. See You Health Center:
    Lin๐Ÿ’•โ€จVery Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM โ€จ ๐Ÿฅ‘ Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer She is very excited to serve customers โ˜Ž 416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl Sasa ๐Ÿ’• Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing and smooth. an incredible ass. ๐Ÿฅ‘ Nancy๐Ÿ’• Vietnamese BBBJ/CIM Queen Natural D+ Cups โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  48. lotushubspa:
    Hello, dear customers, today Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13 and provides female masseuses for customers. Anna, Lily, and Cici provide customers with first-class service and a large number of beauties. Please contact us by phone โ˜Ž๏ธ9052375885 or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคช
  49. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Mia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
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