Frozen shoulder

[Lover of Life]

I am a MT and I have frozen shoulder and have just gone thru 4 weeks of physical therapy with some improvments. I am still doing massage myself bc it doesnt affect my performance at all.

I hear that NMT or even myofascial is good for this condition. Just wondering if anyone has any experience having or treating this.


thanks

 

[Kate Wilson]

Check for trigger points in subscapularis. One treatment gave a client full mobility without pain. The PT had helped, so maybe that base was why I had such good results so quickly, but you've had the same baseline. I did a bit of MFR, but mostly TPT, and almost all of it in the subscap.

 

[heidi]

I was reading my Trigger Point therapy book - self help......and it says to work on and look for TPs in the infraspinatus. But Ill do both. Ive been trying to do it myself with a ball and a wall, but not as affective.

Do you know, are most physical therapists able to do trigger point massage or any massage? THe place i was going to, the PT just left and I saw the new person today and I mentioned TP, NMT, and she tried to do "deep work" on my scap.......it was a joke! She kept asking me if she was hurting me....and I told her I couldnt even FEEL what she was doing. It wasnt deep work at all.....it was effleurage, and not even done that well. SOrry to sound so neg, but Im paying her, and it was for nothing. SHe wouldnt even stretch me out! The last pt was really working me, stretching me and then digging in to get the adhesives broken up. THis lady wouldnt do anything! she actually argued with me about going to see an MD bc she wanted to make sure this is what I have. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.

sorry, im just really frustrated. I dont know where to look for someone to work my trigger points, except for fellow students from massage school.

 

[~Tyeashia~]

Trp in subscap as someone else said are often one of the culprits in frozen shoulder. Not sure how you could go about doing that yourself. Infraspinatus, supraspinatus are all great to work as well, as they cross the joint. I see no reason why you can't ask your peers to work on you, would be great experience for all of you.

Also look into pendulum exercises to stretch the joint capsule, and exercises to stretch subscap. Those you can do yourself. Heat before doing the stretches will often help. Then ice when you are done to reduce the inflammation.

 

[somehuman]

Thanks. Ive already been doing penjulums as part of my stretching exercises my previous PT gave me to do, amoung others.

I found a book on Amazon by Clair Davies who wrote the Trigger Point THerapy workbk called FROZEN SHOULDER. THis is it. I went ahead and ordered it.

http://www.amazon.com/Frozen-Shoulder-Workbook-Overcoming-Regaining/dp/157224447X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9561273-1289612?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185241876&sr=8-1

 

[forgetful]

Definitely have your classmates work on you!

Some PT's have more massage training than others. Most not much. Like MT's, or MD's, even, some will be much better than others. There is no way to generalize accurately on what a profession is good at.

 

[hummerhead2002]

Are you sure it is a true frozen shoulder and not just an impingement? A frozen shoulder usually takes 12-24 months to release. Physio's say they can fix it, MT's are taught they can fix it, surgeons just pull it out of position, if it is a true frozen shoulder nothing except keeping it moving and time will heal..

 

[JaiDiva]

Im pretty sure its what I have. IF I had an impigment, I would imagine I would have pain in my shoulder, which I do not.

I have all the symptoms of Frozen shoulder.

 

[Michael J]

That book looks great, Shane. I have the Trigger Point Therapy Workbook and it is wonderful, so my guess is this one is just as good. Let us know how it goes, okay?

 

[MarshaMarsha]

Thanks Sharon, I will.

 

[HK OS]

Thanks. Ive already been doing penjulums as part of my stretching exercises my previous PT gave me to do, amoung others.

I found a book on Amazon by Clair Davies who wrote the Trigger Point THerapy workbk called FROZEN SHOULDER. THis is it. I went ahead and ordered it.

Excellent book, lots of good info in there. I am treating a woman who came to me with severe frozen shoulder about 4 months ago. Between her PT and massage, she has most of her ROM back, but we've a ways to go. I have been finding loads to do in her subscapularis, infraspinatus, and serratus anterior, with secondary stuff in her deltoid, supraspinatus, traps, lats, pecs, and so on. She is by far the most extreme case I've seen to date, and I am learning a lot in the process.

She was very close to choosing the surgical option when I met her, and it's great to be a part of her non-invasive healing process.

 

[Babby Joshua Christomato]

Jason.....thanks for responding. Thats interesting that its been 4mos!

Im hoping to find another PT that can help me with this. Its a drag that my PT, who had alot of experience with this, moved away. Im just being deligent about the exercises and have found a fellow classmate who will work on my shoulder/arm for me. waiting for the book to arrive any day.

thanks again