Energy of the arms

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My MT works prone first at the back, then the legs, then flip...the legs, then the arms, then the head/neck/pecs.

Perhaps around the second or third massage with him I suddenly have this "reaction" when he gets to me arms. It took me completely by surprise. I felt nervous and giddy and giggly. In a ticklish way kind of, but it wasn't physical it was energetic.

Now when he gets to my arms I can't relax really, I am afraid to have the same reaction. Usually now I do have some reaction but I don't know if it is nervousness about having a reaction or if I really am having a reaction.

He does a very normal technique so it's not something I haven't had before.

What kind of energy is in the arms that I might be reacting this way?
 


I don't know about the reaction, but I recall a bodyworker friend telling me once that there can be a lot of "heart-type" pent up emotions that get stored in the arms. Caring, loving, etc.
 


In Heal Your Body: The Mental Causes For Physical Illness And The Metaphysical Way To Overcome Them by Louise L. Hay, she says that the arms represent the capacity and ability to hold the experiences of life. She also adds a healing affirmation: I lovingly hold and embrace my experiences with ease and with joy.

She lists a "chart of effects of spinal misalignments" ...on the chart it shows a T-1 misalignment affecting the arms from the elbow down. Maybe your practitioner could spend more time in this area working the muscles and surrounding tissue of this area (?).

Also, consider the relationship of giving and receiving.

Many times I'll refer to her book for different things for myself...if it applies, great...if not, then I move on.

Interesting! Keep us posted please. :)
 


This is just off the top of my head, but maybe you are beginning to open up to something new energetically. Receiving new energy through your hands and arms, or they are being prepared for that event! Like I said, this is just my own intuition, I have had no experience, or have read anything about this. It does feel very strong to me though, so it may be worth considering. Are you expecting, or experiencing any major (energetic or otherwise) changes in your life soon?
 


Thanks for the responses so far!

Kindredspirits, my first thought was of the giving/receiving aspect because I give give give with my hands and arms, perhaps when my arms are being worked on it is shining a light on the fact that I am the recipient of what I usually am putting out....does it make me feel uncomfortable?

Texas-gal, I have also heard/read about a relationship between the heart chakra and the arms. Does my own energy make me nervous? Is it his energy?

Jon_O, the first time I responded in this way with the arms was very near an experience I had which I wrote about in this thread:
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3507

So you might be on to something....I have not had an experience like that since, but I have definitely been more aware of the energy of things.

I was also thinking of going to another therapist (a female) and seeing what comes of it. I won't rule out the notion that it would be an attraction issue although I don't get aroused, I get nervous...giggly...but in an anxious way like I would much prefer not to have my arms worked on at all. But they do need the work!!
 
zen theory

From a Zen Shiatsu perspective your reaction to arm work makes perfect sense. All four of the fire meridians run through the arms and the emotions and expressions are joy and laughter.

It could simply be that your fire meridian gets over-stimulated when you get massaged (increase circulation and lymph, sound familiar?) Since water controls fire it is possible that working the bladder channel along the back and legs prior to getting your arms worked may help calm down that fire in your arms. Its worth a try!

good luck

Jennifer
 


Jennifer thank you for responding. He usually does start prone at the back and gets to my arms at the end. Still maybe in general my fire is too much?

The last massage I had, I asked him to start supine at the head, not do the arms at all but just neck, pecs, shoulders, back and hips. There was a point when he was at the right side of my neck that I kind of felt that nervousness.

I think I am dealing with issues. I have noticed that he will hold points in my neck and pecs and I feel emotionally uncomfortable, and therefore I get giggly. I do not show saddness or anger when I feel those emotions and I think there are muscles stuck in these areas because of suppression.

I have also started to go to a chiropractor, but he does not adjust T1....more cervical, mid thoracic, and low lumbar....turns out I have a lumbar scoliosis!

So when I brave the arms again I'll give an update.
 
I still suspect fire imalance...

I still suspect a fire imbalance, although the only way to really be able to tell for sure is a hara assessment. Your fire meridians (in Zen Theory) all run along the aniorio-lateral aspect of the neck (in general).

" too much fire" is just a guess. Your fire merians could be a kyo (empty)and senative and protective as a result. Strengthening Liver and Gall Badder (fire's parent) could help...

I hope this is usefull for you...

This is just my specialty, hopefully you can find one that works for you because your arms need massage too!

Best of Luck!

Jennifer
 


Jennifer thanks so much , that is so interesting and I welcome your input! What can I do so strengthen my Liver and Gall Bladder....exercises, food, cleanse....? I will try it!

I definitely feel the protective thing going on in my neck.
 
Check this...

foods that strengthen fire: bitter greens, nori, occasional fruit, corn, summer vegetables, quinoa, brown rice.

foods that weaken fire: overeating, additives, dairy, cold foods, refined foods, too much of one kind of food.

Foods that strenghten wood(GB & LV): Grains:barley, quinoa, rye, wheat, Diakon, sour greens, broccoli, cabbage, parsley, lemon, sauerkraut (you wouldn't catch me strengthening anything but my compost with that, yuck!), and cauliflower.

foods that weaken wood: overeating (especially heavy foods: eggs, meats, dairy), alcohol, drugs, food additives, coffee, chocolate :( , and sugar.

these suggestions come from a chart I recieved in my Shiatsu 1 syllabus and I am not sure what the original source is...

to stretch GB & LV sit tall with legs straight and apart (L shape), turn torso toward one of your feet with arms reaching up to the sky, looking at toes bend forward until you feel a stretch and hold it. unbend, untwist, and let arms down.
repeat with other side and the middle.

Remember: you are stretching the meridians not the muscles so focus on the channels inside the legs (LV, runs along gracilis), and outside of the body (GB, runs along the side of the body and down the ITT).

that ought to keep you busy... let me know if that changes anything for you or if it doesn't do squat.

Jennifer
 


Jennifer, Thanks for giving me that information. I can see how I might have been weakening my wood with my diet. I'll try to incorporate some wood strengthening foods. And less of the weakening ones.

I just had a massage today and I asked him again not to do my arms. I felt alot of uneasiness in my neck and I knew I'd have the same reaction. Today he did a full body including my abs and I didn't have any uneasiness except in my neck.

I have another one in a month. So I'll work on wood strengthening and check back.

Thanks again for all the input!
 


I went for my massage yesterday and did considerably better!!!! He even did my arms and man did they need it bad. He worked on specific problems I was experiencing and I never felt that nervousness. Once when he pressed into my pecs I did feel a sudden feeling of saddness, but I allowed feelings to come and I just exerienced it like an observer. I think that really made a difference. I think I have a bunch of emotinal crap stored in my tissues and calmly letting myself experience it made me not hide anything with anxious/nervous giggles. Instead I came from a quiet, accepting and grateful place.

I haven't changed my diet much although in the past month I have not had much alcohol. And I have been consciously stretching my meridians. Thanks Jennifer! I've also started running again and that always help shake up and loosen my tissues so I feel in an all around way that "things" circulate faster and with more ease.

Thanks to all!
 


I had another massage yesterday and it was perfect. He did my arms and hands without incident. Overall I felt much more relaxed and not nervous/giddy at all.

I think part of whatever took place was a "letting go" of sorts. Letting go of a habit of not allowing myself to simply receive. And perhaps more complex hang ups are woven into it all as well, but I fully trust that creating a safe space to experience it all will allow these issues to resolve.
 


Just another update to this....

I stopped seeing that MT last summer and in the fall I started seeing another MT. This one has had much more experience with energy work and emotional release and she was exactly what I needed. I ended up having a few emotional releases when she worked deep in my shoulders and neck and her energy work techniques helped to move things along.

It was the first time I'd expereinced anything like that from bodywork and it's made a profound difference in my life.

I think I new all along that there was something lurking and I just needed to find a practitioner I trusted to help move things through.
 


Thanks for that update. Glad you're receiving such great bodywork! Do you know what techniques or modalities she used?
 


I don't know specifically what modalities or techniques she uses, but she said she has studied with a woman who had studied with Barbara Brannen. Otherwise she says she had studied/read up on anything and everything.

Recently though we both completed three levels of Pranic Healing and I know she's really into that and has gone on for some of the more advanced classes.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 14, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici โค๏ธ, Mia ๐ŸŒธ, Vicky ๐Ÿ’– and Lulu ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call 905-479-6668 to book your session!
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธZara๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธBreeCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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