Don't make the same mistake

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Today, I realized the importance of being careful when seeing MPAs, and SPs in general. While basically a noob myself, I have a handful of experiences at different locations, thus far. Only 2 of them have been good (amazing, we might say), while the rest have been either bad, or atrocious.

However, 1 in particular is "off the charts" bad. While the others were either rushed or poor service in general, this one experience words can't describe.

You might think it was some morbidly obese bait-and-switch with the worst service, who gave me HIV, but no. In fact, she looked great for her age, gave decent service and no STD.

The thing is, from the first step in the door, there was shame. As a religious person, the fact there is a "bitten apple" on the front door was a sign to turn around and walk away. While you may identify as Atheist or another religion, it's 100% OK... This isn't meant in respect to our differences in that regard.

It's about that they openly and proudly want to hurt our spirit. They know that most here see a bitten apple & associate it with sin & shame. They want us to regret seeing them. They don't care about providing service that makes us want to return, or uplifts us. It's all about tricking and deceiving us.

With that said, my visit to this location is no different. Even though she looked good, the talking down, excessively rude, rushing and fake moans & compliments left me with an intense sense of shame that even today, over a year later I still have.

An old, ugly morbidly obese bait-and-switch with poor service would have been better. Somebody who wants to hurt our soul for no reason, no matter how they look or the service they provide is somebody who we should avoid.

So remember if things reopen to respect yourself enough to walk away when it doesn't feel right... Almost never pay upfront unless familiar with the provider or agency. Hope this helps.

Peace โ˜ฎ๏ธ
 
I think at this point in your life hobbying is not for you. You may feel differently later. At 29 I would not even have thought about paying for sex. I did not want marriage and was happy just having a girlfriend and a social life. The only thing I would add is that it took me a little while to get used to this hobby. These days I am entirely comfortable, say what I am looking for and will walk away if i cannot get what I am looking for or feel apprehensive.
 
Yeah When you are reglious you will connect your own dots and paint your own picture.

There is no good or evil..there are people trying to get the most out of the situation so it benefits them. That is the common thread with everyone in life. Co-worker, spouse, sibling ..SP..friends..business competition

If you make yourself vulnerable you will be taken advantage of period. If you where able to go to work for a full day..work for 2 hrs..and get paid for all of it. You would take advantage. But you cannot because the company puts in time cards.. managers..work schedules ..meetings to make sure your there. They protect there income stream.

My point ..do you research..read reviews.. protect your space and ensure you minimize chances of being taken advantage off. I used to tell any SP before I see them to send me a pic..no pic..I dont go.. I move on.
You would surprised of how much fake girls I avoided. Now they passed the visual test but there service was shitty. "No I dont do that..your taking too long..that hurts..are you cuming now, I have another appointment hurry up, that's not what I said "

The SP world is full of fake pics and girls who think because they have a pussy they can run a business. I left the independent SP space yrs ago because of fake photos and shitty service.

Stick with well known spas or agencies..if it's shitty service you can complain to the review boards and there aware we hobbyist share info so they will try to make it right. Independent girls feel no obligation to make sure you leave happy. Count your blessings if you have some gems ..most are garbage.

Dont get me wrong you can find some good talent in the SP space. I spent many years there before I understood it was better to spend more money at a SPA vs playing around searching for gems. the effort and time wasted was not worth it.

That cheap 120 in call cost you money .gas .and time ..and you still didnt get off so you go find another incall the next day to get off..

2hrs finding girl via leolist
120 wasted and disappointed

Next day Another 2 hrs to find another girl because you need some redemption
Anothdr 120 wasted

Thats 4hrs and 220 wasted and that's not including driving all over the place..paying for parking..clearing text messages of the conversation. Waiting in parking lots and she opens the door and your like " it kinda looks like her" ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Fuck that..I dont waste my time anymore.

SPA
150 book my appointment
Drive there park for free..pay my fee..see my girl ..tip if I'm happy.. end of story.

My favorite Spa girl tells me shes gonna put my cock to sleep at the start of the session
That's what I pay for. Quality over Quantity. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
 
I beg to differ...
There are girls that enjoy what they do and put in effort to make it fun..comfortable and make sure you leave happy. There offerings are up front and transparent in service. Pics are accurate..everything's known. No false promises . If shes BBW ..MILF ..skinny ..green..just be honest in pics..service and price.

When I go to McDonald's I dont order a big mac ..get a TACO for a big mac price and when I complain ..I get attitude like she is doing a a favour. Thats what I'm referring to. Girls that feel entitled to not conduct business properly and RIP off guys.

Also If girls are doing this line of work and looking for guys "who really care about them" they have bigger issues no amount of appointments can solve.

Guys are paying to fuck..some are assholes some are nice. Most are not doing this for a real emotional relationship with the girls ..your confusing nice and caring . I'm a nice guy ..I treat them well and I tip well . But I dont care if shes gonna be able to buy flour .. Wtf ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ .

That's a job for her boyfriend..
 
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I doubt very much that the bitten apple is meant to be an insult towards anyone.
Different cultures, backgrounds, and upbringings expose us all to different things and thus we all have different interpretations of many things.
I for one have never heard of the symbolism of the bitten apple you refer to. There's a pretty good chance the MP owner hasn't either.
I think you may be reading far too much into something that isn't intended to mean anything at all.
 
It seems to me that you're just struggling with your conscience, which may keep you from returning to the hobby... not a bad thing, I might say.
The symbol of the bitten apple (giving into temptation) is both obvious and applicable.
Not sure why that bothers you so much... is it possible that, after a mediocre session, you're getting buyer's remorse of having a mediocre session, which doesn't outweigh the conscience factor of giving into temptation?
Maybe if you did more due diligence to vet the right provider, you might have a better experience overall, and less remorse, since you've had a better experience.

I'm a MP guy. Never been to a SP. Depending on where you go for your MPA, you can expect a certain level of overall service (and I'm not even talking about extras.)
 
Pretty intense post...

Have you thought about it from her perspective too... think about what it must feel like, to be treated by guys who really don't care one iota about her... one after the other, coming in, literally, and figuratively... she can't buy flour during a pandemic, no one gives a rats ass, just... you know... when will she next be available? If she died would you go to her funeral, or even read through her obit? Probably not... you wouldn't really care... you just want to nut, with a smile...

and so it's mutual. she doesn't really care about you either.

p.s. don't take this post personally... letter to self, really.

It's isn't about caring. It doesn't matter if a restaurant cook doesn't care about us, as long as the food is ok.

When they spit in our food, that's a problem. Especially for no reason.*
 
Your paranoid and over analyzing.
We are all here for a limited time.
Religion..superstition, beliefs ..assumptions wont save you. We are all marching towards the exit sign. So enjoy the view and smell the flowers on your way out.
 
I am guessing you went to as asian SPA?

if so you're paranoid and over thinking.

You might need to take a step back away from going to spas and relax your mind.
 
My relationship between the mpa or sp and me is strictly provider and customer relationship. As a customer i have a set of expectations. Wanting me to get the fuck out the moment the session started will get zero empathy from me. If you dont like the way the customer treat you then quit. Dont let shit the door on your way out.

If you are nice to me, i will be respectful.
 
Try it again, but this time revel in the shame and the wickedness. That's part of the fun. You can always struggle with remorse later before you do it again. I learned this when I deflowered my Jehova neighbour's daughter. The memory of her shame and post coital crying still gets me hard.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Fri ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL East & SL West, Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  33. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spaโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy and hot โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅLatino ๐ŸŒธ Japanese๐ŸŒธ girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  34. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Friday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & a New Girl. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. New Girl today apparently is very pretty, has good massage skills and good services. AMORE SPA
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    Sultry Nympho Susan is working at Sparkling Spa with Sexy Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Susan & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  37. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  38. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  39. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  45. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  46. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  48. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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