Cinderella Massage Has Camera too!

[Nostalgic for Disaster]

Today I walked into 'CINDERELLA on JARRY street east;
and as I was talking to the reception, aN MP asked her
to restart the music.....so she pulled open a curtain (whichis located to the left of the reception); and what did I see?
I saw several monitors and on one of the monitors...the image of me...
So..I look at the receptionist and said.."""Hidden cameras....?"

She said "Only for the entrance?"
BS....
I said...."Dans un salon de massage les cameras...c'est pas correcte"
At which point I turned and left.

This kind of business depends on discretion discretion and discretion.
I am appalled.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Well do you saw any camera into room or any room into monitor? I think its legitimate for any business to have a security camera system... the polic eis already lazy so if you get robbed and you dont have video forget about it!

Wilko

 

[fatima]

Wilko you are funny dude ! A massage parlors is not a legitimate business... If they get robbed you think they will call the cops to complain ?

 

[Jebediah S]

I never gave any other massage parlour owner the permission to record an image of me; whether it's in the entrance or in the room? The laziness of the police is not a good reason to cover up another reason why an illegal operation has a hidden camera(s). As for employees ripping you off that's another story..a camera only creates another problem.

If as an mp owner you are paranoid that one of your employees will not kick back to you a percentage of the "extras or tips" that they make;
or if you are not there to make sure that the number of clients reported matches the number of clients that entered; if you do not have someone that you can trust in the front; then my dear friend...installing cameras is not the answer....installing cameras is a band-aid.....installing cameras...is something that you do not install in a business where discretion is important....maybe you are a trustworthy operator of an illegimate business; but what about some of your employees? If you or your employees are so trustworthy then please enlighten all members of the board here why you keep looking for new receptionists in the Journal De Montreal?
Who has access to the videotape? What happens to the videotape?
How many videotapes do you have? Are they locked up in a key?
Has any client of your present business or one of your prior business ever been a victim of extortion or blackmail due to a recorded image that accidentally made its ways into the hands of very bad people?
How does a client know that the VHS does not travel somewhere else?
,,,,,,And then I suppose as an owner; you shrug your shoulders and say...I don't know? I am not responsable...Is that your excuse?
May I recommend to you to get rid of your machine and ask other mp operators how they manage to do their business without the use of VHS Tape machine. Then this entire mess can be eventually forgotten and your regular customers will not have to feel paranoid when they walk into your business or undress in one of your rooms......

 

[SnakeHissperer]

Yeah I think they gonna call... Do you think police gonna say: 'ah ok 3 guys came in with guns and rob 1000$ you have them on video but BECAUSE you are a massage place and we have NO evidence that something wrong append at your place we wont investigate?'



I didnt give any permission to any commerces im going to record image of me either... so where's the line... I suggest to all of you guys to go buy a copy of journal de montreal tomorrow... Place like abandons spas advertise in 'Erotic massage' and Cinderella advertise in 'massage' like any therapist... I dont want start a debate about it cause we all know what appenning there but I guess they probably have a regular clientele...
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Two quick storys about peoples who think theses kind of business dont call cops for the purpose of this kind of business here's two little story and probably you gonna change your mind:

1-) One of my friend started an escort agency (dont worry im not a shiller) recently and one of is girl been hit buy a clients and they called the police, they told the FULL story to policeman and the clients got arrested...

2-)One of my business is a webcam studio, im providing feeds to several large adult company in USA (dont ask me URL you can find porn everywhere) and one day a girl got the great idea to tell, to 3 guy in the a big street gang in mtl, that I had a safe at the office with some money in it... the 3 guys get into the office with guns, empty the safe and got surprises by some employee comming for work and they left the office with almost nothing (they forgot the bag with cash and left with the one with the 3 controller of the xbox and tv remote I would pay 500$ to see their face after) hopefully... I called the police when they left... At this point I think all of you guy at thinking (yeah but porn is not like massage place with... best part is there) When police came in they found in one of the bag left by thoses guy all my little kit when I was raving in the past... And 2 days before I decided to buy a batch of 100 pills cause I was getting a better price (thanx god im not into that anymore) so they asked me why that was there and I told the the truth... And if you read the police report its say that it was the 3 guys who 'left it on place'...

I meet several time thoses policemans (enqueteur) after this and they finally find 2 of the guys in jail 3-4 month later for a while so we agreed the best thing was to leave it like that... During that time I spoke a lot with them about the perception of police about ALL sex related business and they explained me that they dont have problem with escort agency, massage, etc... unless they dont get complaint...

So if I was an owner of a massage place I would FOR SURE put a security camera in the entrance because its a mostly cash business... probably I would take spycam and put monitor in a smarter place than Cinderella.

A funny thing is that at Amsterdam nobody have problem with thoses security camera... When I went to philippines they have security camera in thoses malls with 300 girls... same thing when I was to hong kong...

When I go in a massage place I never give my real name and always dial *67 so they dont have my phone number either so if somebody want blackmail me GOOD luck!

I noticed that in the last couple of days camera (security and spy one to record sp) is making big story here.... like if it was a new thing..

Wilko

 

[jkhdjsadg(:]

You know...I called to be a receptionist there...thank god I never went to the interview. My guess is this place is a LE bust waiting to happen. Good luck fellas.

 

[Wassim Elia]

if anyone goes there in the future,tell the girls there what's happening and they'll complain to diana(the boss)or we're all fucked!

 

[lisa hampton]

You completely miss the point. If you are a customer who goes to a brothel, or a massage parlour, or any place that you would not want your friends to know about, would you want your face to be recorded on film yes or no?
Forget the possibility of being recorded while being massaged....Imagine that you walk into an mp and 3 years later, your picture is there on page 3 of Allo Police; as part of an undercover story on the trade; only no one asked you for your permission to publish it and your family finds out that you were part of the story because of the picture...all because someone sayshe is trying to protect the security of his cash business....I suppose the massage parlor owner will rescue your marrage?

I have no problem with an mp protecting his cash business.
To protect his business; he has to protect the privacy
of his customers. That is how you protect your business.
Now if the owner of mps want to continue having a video cam
in the entrance of their business so that they can own a recorded image of every customer that walks in; guess what?
Me and every paying customer who does not feel comfortable about this
policy will not return to the mp. And then if you move and do the same thing again; guess what? Your customers will abandon you and you will have
no more cash business. Customers will punish mp's who have a video-cam by spending their money elsewhere.

So please. Do not try to insult the customer with all of the reasons because none of them are convincing. Images of your customers who walked into your mp; you have them on tape. You did it without their permission.
And that my friend......is an insult to me and every customer who decided to give you $60 for an hour of your employees time only to discover that their privacy has been betrayed.

The owner of CINDERELLA should apologize.
All humans make mistakes. Be man enough to admit it; we will forgive you and with time you will earn our trust and make more money than you can imagine because instead of owning 1 or 2 or 3 successful mps' you'll own a 100; and even a 100 won't be enough to serve all of your customers. Of course we do not do this by shutting down and starting over. We do this by winning the hearts of our customers with outstanding service and discretion.
We do it with service, with discretion, and even more discretion.

Once we are advised that the camera is gone then yours truly will consider
returning to CINDERELLA for a massage. Not before.
And ..it is not negotiable. Get rid of it.

 

[Breezy]

onthelookout I truly understand the point that nobody want get recorded when they go to a mp place... im 110% with you thats not the problem... I also agree that its a bit stupid that you been able to see the camera and video... I have no problem that a mp place record entrance with a system like digital record with auto-delete after like 3hours... if its really that... I'm not into a place who record tape and keep it for ever... I dont see the point at all...

What im saying too is that Cinderalla is not smart at all to have a system that can be viewed by clients... thoses sytem at cotsco with screen and etc is out to date....

But I dont see ANYBODY here complaining about the security system at Solid Gold that you can see the screen at the entrance... and THEY record but on a 24h basis on a digital system... this screen is there for at least 3 year and never saw people on this board complaining.... I just come back from there bro and talked with management there about it.

You know in every situation there good people and... excuse the terms 'thoses f*ck*rs' there's the intelligent way to do something and the stupid way and after some beer and some thinking I agree with you that cinderella is stupid to act that way but I think we have NO idea about how many time we are recorded... or filmed...

Personnaly I would not be happy to see my face in front of allo police... but if LE make an investigation there's more chance that the picture in front of the allo police would be taken from a hidden car of LE parked in front of the business than from the tape of the MP place...

But trust me bro nothing beat your grandma asking you questions in front of all your familly, at christmas, about your webcam business cause she saw you on TV! yeah its personnal choice I made and I live with!

I think its ok to report mp place with camera but its not a new thing in that business all thoses place have camera and are still in business:

1-Abandon
2-Kama
3-Salon d'or
4-Salon Fantesie
5-Joventus (ss)
6-Salon Rouge
7-?????????
8-Pussy Cat
9-Abracadabra

So if you want be 100% sure about it call outcall agency so you are 100% sure of the environement about camera. Me I will still continue to go to Abandon and cinderella and I think its a personnal choice that each other have to take.

wilko


>>> EDITED BY MOD 11: NRP requested and granted.

 

[Chi4Now]

If there are anymore mps'that you know of,
please share their names
with us.

Iguarantee you that I will never go to anyone of the "cammed" places.

 

[Tizz]

Thanx for your input Train for a moment I was thinking I was living in another world...!

Wilko

 

[richyroy]

i am new to this site and have just been browsing more than anything, but i do know that mps who have camera's arent recording. its more for the receptionist to look to make sure the girl is safe. Not to see for her tips or for personal use... Cinderella I have never been to but i have been to a few who i know dont record. Just for safety measures.

 

[Ethiopian ruler]

That would not happen. If it did, you could sue Allo Police and get enough money to buy yourself a whole MP and forget about your ex-wife. When a place gets busted, do you think the police will waste its time looking at the tapes and trying to find all the guys they see on them? If you're not found guilty of any crime, what would be the point for anyone to publish your picture? Doing so would be very hard to justify in front of a judge.