Can energy be used as a contraindication?

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another thread was talking about contraindications and licensing i was wondering with all the use of enery to heal ect. ect. could that also be used as an oppisite and be considered a contraindication?. I know what i believe i wanted to stir the minds.........
 
I'm not sure what you mean? ย But, as far as I know, energy work is always safe and has no contraindications. ย Anne, Reiki Master
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

If I understand your question correctly, from all that I have learned, when massage is contraindicated, energy work in most cases is perfectly fine. The only time I can think of where it could be a problem (and even then I can't see why it would be) would be if the client has a major heart condition. I know of other MTs who use energy work in terminal cases and have had no problem.
 
The only contraindication I know of is in certain truama cases, like the loss of a body part, that may be able to be reattached. I have heard a story, and I think I read about another one ย that the energy worked healed a little too well, and the piece almost could not be reattached. (In this case fingers).JennReiki Master
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

I can certainly see your point, puamaeole. If you can use energy to heal, why could you not use it to harm? Isn't that the fundamental concept behind black magic? Voodoo? I would hope that anyone who is involved in this kind of work would not want to use it that way.....
 
very good merle my point, yes i'm not even refering to black magic or vodoo, just intent in and of itself. ย i have had people touch me and their energy alone made me throw up. ย interesting........... ย i just wanted people who are stuck on things that are seen and making policies, to remember what we can't see.......... ย 
 
ย  ย As a reiki II practioner, I've been told that you shouldn't ย try to send reiki to someone while they are being put under anesthesia. It has something to do with making it harder to put someone "under." ย  ย As for the rest--energy knows where it is needed. It goes to where the problem areas are and does whatever it can. I personally don't believe that reiki energy can harm. Reiki in itself is not a harmful practice--rather it is beneficial. People, however, choose their own path--I don't think that reiki can be converted to the wrong path due to attunements and the geneology of the practice. I DO believe, for the same reason, that someone should find out the history and training of the instructors and practitioners in charge of giving attunements!Val
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

You cannot send anyone bad Reiki, it is impossible. Even if you are mad a the person, only good energy is transmitted.However there are other forms of energy work that negative energies can be transmitted.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

Sorry, but I have a hard time with impossible. A lot of impossible things have happened. To paraphrase an old saying: If it can be thought, it can be done.In any event, as we all know, energy is in every cell of our body. I believe energy can be directed consciously/subconsciously into the, through, and around our clients. That is why I don't recommend working with someone with whom you have a particularly bad history - unless you are both trying to work something out.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

ย i have had people touch me and their energy alone made me throw up. ย interesting........... ย 

I've had this happen too. ย One severe reaction I had was in a massage class where i had to throw up afterwards, and then felt fine. ย It turned out the student had had a kidney transplant and was on heavy duty rejection drugs for the rest of her life.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

So sorry for her! That must suck.I agree that impossible is a pretty strong word, especially when dealing with something intangible like energy.
 
Ok, maybe was impossible was a little strong ย :-[, but I was talking specifically about Reiki. The attunement process and the type of energy work that it is, makes it very difficult to send negative energy. Let me say it is improbable to send negative energy intead. ย :-/ Energy from Reiki flows through you not from you, which is why it is improbable to send negative energy. You are not generating the energy flow, just plugging yourself in. Its kind of like plugging an appliance into a wall, it is using the energy that is already there, not generating its own.However, I did mention that this does not hold true for other forms of energy work. There are many types of energy work, many of them very possible to send a lot of negative energy. Many types of energy work come from one's self, often delpleating your own energy. When you use your own energy, it makes it much easier to send negativity.And of course, it is possible to send two different types of energy at once. Does that make it a little clearer?Jenn
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

I think it's important to distinguish between Reiki and other types of energy work in this discussion. No matter what "story" one wants to put to it, the general consensus is that Reiki can't be used for harm. Whether folks believe that's because it has its own Universal Intelligence, comes straight from the Christian God, or that powerful beings guide Reiki and its use (all stories I've heard from different people, btw), I would put my bettin' money against those who want to try -- go ahead, just try ;-) -- to use Reiki for harm.Having said that, I wouldn't use Reiki on things like unset dislocations, fresh broken bones, severed parts, etc for the reason mentioned previously: get things physically aligned before initiating/speeding up the healing process. Also, clients should be made aware that Reiki has the potential to intensify, even if shortening the duration of, any acute symptoms they might be experiencing... even if just a cold or flu. I've heard it suggested that Reiki may be best applied at the early onset or tail end of such conditions if the client won't be able (e.g. because of work schedule, obligations) to make time and space for such healing. Sometimes it's more in line with a client's goals to go through a week of mild symptoms than to have to take a day off work to really be sick and then be done with it.But I definitely think the client's intention affects how it plays out. NOW, as for other types of energy work... I believe some can be used in other ways. Chi is certainly manipulated by advanced martial artists to ends other than the therapeutic bodywork done in Shiatsu ;-) But I don't think we can generalize about "energy work" as if there were no differences between the different modalities.
 
I've been wondering about this. ย I had a regular client who suffered from CFS and Fibromyalgia. ย I had had positive reiki effects with him wherein the constant pain in his feet dissapeared for a while, surprising both of us. ย The very last time I worked on him, He said he had intestinal discomfort. I massaged it gently and reiki'd it and if felt like my hand and thumb was a funnel pouring energy into his 2nd chackra. ย Then time was up and I had to let him go. He said he felt better, and not as sick feeling anymore. ย But now I wonder if perhaps I didn't ground him well enough, bacause not too long after that, he sunk into a deep depression. ย He's had them before, but never that deep. He stopped coming to the chiro, stopped getting massage, and I haven't seen him in over 6 months. ย Do you think the Reiki could have pushed him over an edge?
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

This is from a book written to Doctors about Complimentary and Alternative Medicine...Reiki specifically...There are no knowsn contraindications to Reiki treamtnets. However, some patients may experience increased gastrointestinal activity, sinus drainage or lightheadness with treatment. Indications for ReikiAlleviate painStimulate the immune systemRelieve stress and release emotional blockagesAccelerate the natural healing response.Energywork in general...There are no absolute contraindications for the use of energy treatments. Biofeeld therapy's major problems would be "sins of omission." Could there be an undiagnosed illness that might be better treated through standard medical treatments? In seroius cases like this, energy therapy should be used adjunctively. It may not be a suitable substitute of standard medical care. Information obtained during the healing process should be verified with diagnostic tests whenever possible. The practitioner may be at medicolegal risk if the patient's health declines despite the health benefits, the benign nature of the treatment and written and informed consent.Indications...Reducing pain and inflammationSpeeding healing time of surgical procedures, wounds, fractures and infectionsHelping with autoimmune disordersImproving chronic conditions like diabetes, hypertension, arthritis and MSDecreasing depression, ansiety, obsessions and other neuropsychiatric disordersPhysical rehabilitation to decrease fatigue, increase strength and enhance general well-being.
 
To Sharp regarding the client going into deep depression. ย He may be going thru a big shift. ย I had several Reiki sessions that were very powerful. ย I broke out in a huge sweat and shaking uncontrolably during one session. ย I drank about a gallon of water that day. ย I was going thru a tough time personally. ย But, over time, I released allot, moved thru the changes and came out the other side a new person. ย We all have our dark periods and Reiki or not we will experience them. ย The Reiki you gave him may be giving him the power to go thru what he needs to go thru anyway, possibly more quickly. ย Birthing is never easy, you know. ย Reiki does only good. ย If he was on your table, he was ready for it. My opionion, of course. ย You can continue to send him Reiki remotely. ย He may need time to assimilate the changes initiated by the Reiki. ย Open to thoughts about this.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

YES, I ย BELIEVE SO. IN DOING ENERGY WORK FRO OVER 20 YEARS, IN CERTAIN CASES IT CAN CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS FOLLOWING SPECIFIC KINDS OF TREATMENT.

LOOK AT YOUR CLI8ENT OVERALL AND SEE A HISTORY FIRST BEFORE TREATING.IF CLIENT HAS HAD MAJOR WORK IN LESS THAN A WEEK, TAKE ABREAK OF AWEEK BEFORE TREATING.ย 
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

Reiki has a few instances that it should not be used:Broken bones till they get setChemotherapy till it is in the bodyElectronics such as a pacemaker or hearing aidMedicinemanRM/T
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

it depends on the intention of the mind directing the energy work ;)
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

You guys are all way in your head. Energy work is NEVER contraindicated when it comes from the heart. That requires BEING IN SERVICE totally, not in some "head space, technical" place. Licensing? are you kidding? how ridiculous can it get? licensing one's INTENTION??? on second thought, maybe if we required everyone to have a license to THINK we might be onto something....;)
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Mia sexy body big boobs 36DD very good body slide and massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 14, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici โค๏ธ, Mia ๐ŸŒธ, Vicky ๐Ÿ’– and Lulu ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call 905-479-6668 to book your session!
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธZara๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธBreeCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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