Butterfly Review

[Katelina]

The Hamster's back has been bugging him for the last few days, so the Hamster decided to give Butterfly MP a try. Upon entering the Hamster told the receptionist/SP that he just wanted a massage. She looked dumbfounded and unsure if the Hamster is an undercover cop. After greating the 7 and two 5's the Hamster went with the 7. Her name is May or Maya, and she said no one comes to Butterfly just for a massage. The Hamster said he will tip her $40 just for a massage. She looked somewhat pissed off and the whole time kept asking for FS or BJ or HJ. The Hamster asked how much for BJ and was told 150! LOL and $200 for FS. I guess the Hamster came across as a rookie and someone with money to burn. After a 30 min massage the Hamster was back on the street with his back in good shape.

Honestly, these girls shouldn't be SP's.

 

[deep blue2]

Hamster, don't tell us you expected great service when they knew they would not make any coin off you. There are plenty of legit massage places where you could get a far better massage for far less.

 

[Q.B]

Same thing happened with me at Soy (or something) Execuitive Club in Richmond. I also gave the girl in her early 30s a good tip because she did an excellent hard massage. She also kept whining about how they dont make any money other then tips etc. I felt both sorry for her but pissed as well..

 

[Fred]

Empty your PM box, Hamster

 

[MDNova1]

If you must have a plain old massage, go for a therapeutic massage as DynamiteKid had suggested, or goto an AMP and ask for the ugliest girl there because there are usually 1-2 girls in an AMP that will do massage only and do it very well but are not the best looking. What you did was the equivalent of going to a decent restaurant (MP) and order the soup of the day (Massage only) and sit there for the rest of the night. Of course the waiters (SP) are going to be pissed at you (no tips). No offence but you said "Honestly, these girls shouldn't be SP's." to which I reply "Honestly, you shouldn't be a pooner". This is a mistake that even a rookie won't make.

 

[CARNAGE *Anti-YOU]

Hamster I was searching for the same thing awile back and called Chester at Bex. He recommended Milly saying she gave the best massage in Vancouver. Of course it's all marketing but she gives a great example of Chinese massage. It was just what I was looking for. Cost was the room and I left a green and blue for a tip. But Butterfly is bad news. I visited a few years ago, they definately are not into giving massages.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Dear, dear Wilde What can I say? Well, quite a bit actually.

First, I don't think a poster with 14 posts under his belt can call the Hamster a "rookie". Not unless you are trying to flame him and, at the same time, disrespect this entire board. Hamster has probably been into more pussy than you will ever afford in your lifetime.

Secondly, Sir Hamster offered to pay, or did pay, $40.00 for a massage. Now I don't have to explain how these places work to a seasoned veteran like yourself, but if the Hamster had given her $40.00 for a handjob, she likely would have given him the massage first. So this way, the Hamster saved the poor waif from a severe case of up & down tendonitis! But, like I said, you already know that, right!

Thirdly, and here I think you don't eat in good enough restaurants, because your example of the waiter and the diner just doesn't measure up as either an entree` or an appettizer, which by the way, are the main course and the nibbles, respectively. In a fine restaurant, the waiter would never let you know he/she was pissed off at you for wasting a table. If you did it a couple of times, the restaurant would accomodate your particular dining habits by finding you a smaller table off to one side, maybe even by the kitchen, so as to subltly dissuade you from continuing to contribute so little to the waiter's mortgage fund.

Now let me explain all this again so that I'm sure you grasp the arguement. Since the girl would have welcomed making $40.00 to give the Hamster a hand job, she shouldn't be upset to make the same $40.00 for less work. She also had the option at all times of simply declining to accept the request. Another girl likely would have taken her place for some easy, less sweaty cash.

Had the girl treated the renowned Hammy with respect, he might have returned one day to treat her to a Hamster special and lay down some real, hard cash.

All in all the girl was just a greedy, little bitch. Some of the girls in this business are like that. They really don't give a shit, because all they want is to part the customer from as much of their money as possible.

Interestingly, you and the girl have something in common which is that neither of you show any respect for our Hamster. And that is not something I would brag about on this board. Right Hammy?

 

[rebbyshy1]

Well said!

If the Hamster came across like a rookie, maybe he didn't make himself clear.

1. The Hamster had never been to Butterfly and didn't do his homework before going.

2. Some MP's allow just a massage. SOme business is better than no business and at 11:00 am, they had no business!

3. The Hamster told the receptionist what he wanted and asked if that was okay.

 

[groovybug]

maybe Hamster should go to see Melody by Joyce Skitrain station, I heard that she gives good massage and a HJ for the finale...

 

[p055umcub3r]

#1) I did not call him a rookie, I was merely pointing out the fact that IMHO even a rookie would not have done what the Hamster did.

#2) I don't think the number of posts means a whole lot, there are probably people on this board who don't post very often but have been in the hobby longer than you have.

#3) Definitely was not trying to flame the well "respected" Hamster .

#4) I said "decent" restaurants not fine. The massage is supposed to be the appetizer (note the single t) of the MP experience. Your main course would logically be the extras (bj, bm, fs, etc.). So I am lost as to how you fail to see my comparisons.

#5) If the girl would not massage him for $40.00 what makes a genius/expert like youself think she will give him a hj for $40.00 (after she was quoting $150.00 for bj)?

#6) I have lots of repect for you senior posters who has provided valuable information. But I think most of you also suffers from the "god calls me god" syndrome. Its not like you actually went to graduate school and got a masters in pooning, you know. Those who thinks they know it all are often the ones who knows JACK. Once in a while, maybe you could say "OK maybe I shouldn't have done that." Even the Hamster said himself that "he came across as a rookie."

#7) Are you and the Hamster related somehow.? It must be nice to have a posting buddy who will write 8 paragraphs to defend you against a tiny bit of critic.

#8) Last but not least, just remember those girls are sp's not massage therapists. After all, you don't goto a massage therapist and ask for fs, or do you?

P.S. Calling that girl a "greedy, little bitch" just show how much class you have and how much respect you have for sp's. She did give your pal the massage, didn't she. Final question to the Hamster, did you tip her in the end????????

 

[------ -]

You mean I can't correct all of his gramatical errors? Geez, that takes the fun out of it! Guess I can't take a walk on the Wilde side, huh!

 

[provider 8]

I think what the point is...

P.S. Calling that girl a "greedy, little bitch" just show how much class you have and how much respect you have for sp's.

isn't cool. But, then neither is Hamster's comment. It's too sad though that some people just don't know the meaning of good service...but I do agree with Hamster though...if that's how a lady in the business treats her customers...she's in the wrong business.

 

[Carrie]

Reply: While I won't comment on the "lack of class" statement because I intend to heed the sage advice of our illustrious moderator, suffice to say that to those of us who have been pooning for over 30 years, sometimes the truth hurts. Some of these girls are simply "greedy" and can, at times, simply be "bitches". Case in point, see the recent reviews of Broadway Bodysage where the firl got all bitchy because the pooner turned her down, politley, because she wasn't his type. As for whether or not the Hamster paid the $40.00, shouldn't you have asked him first before implying that he might not have?

Please note: no "flames" were hurt during this discourse.

Sorry for the mixed use of bold & regular print for the replies, I couldn't figure out how to turn it off within a quote.

 

[Cool B]

The intention of my first post to this thread was to point out the fact that if one goes to a MP and request a massage only, then one is going to receive some shitty treatment/attitude from the SP more often than not. Most pooners know this, so I was puzzled as to how a repected and experienced pooner like the Hamster would not know this. Granted that the Hamster was not familiar with that particular MP but if you have been to one MP you ought to know what to expect in another one.

Charming, I think your superior complex as you put it, is implicit in your reply to my #2) and #6). This complex is imbedded inside that skull of yours and you don't even know it. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. You think that girl would have given the Hamster a massage and HJ for $40.00, I think NOT. Yes, those girls sometimes are greedy and can be beaches, but remember that they are only guilty of making a better living for themselves. There is no need for name calling unless they burn you real bad (e.g., switch & bait, false advertising, plain old scam, etc). If you don't want to pay $$$, this is a free country last time I checked. Thanks for your essay (if you want to call it that) BTW, some points were well taken and some not.

I apologize for the use of "most of you" in my #6), it should have read "a small portion".

In closing, if the Hamster tipped that girl $ for the massage then good for him. If not, then I think it was that "greedy, little beach" who got the short end of the straw (she would have worked half an hour for nothing except for the pleasure of seeing and touching the Hamster's flesh).

 

[campus cutie 09]

Thanks for the reply, Wilde. Let's agree to disagree on points #2 , #5, & #8. We might have some grouds for discussion on the others, who knows. We still don't know if Hammie left the tip.

I look forward to your reviews in the future.

 

[Irish Bear]

Hamster

Why didn't you try Escape? Maybe a bit far, but good reviews.

Also this should be in 411, but does anyone know what happened to Lucy @ Edmonds & Canada Way. Would be a good 2nd choice if still around.