Back massage - how long for treatment?

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Hi

A client has asked if I do an hour back/shoulder massage.

Currently I don't and only 30 min which includes consultation, massage, dressing/undressing, relaxing.

I am going to say that I could do back of legs, back of arms and back which would make up the time other than that, I am struggling to think how I can make the time up on the back for an hour except for repeating strokes, finding areas of tension/stress, working on knots etc.

I don't have any advanced massage techniques.

I understand people's mindset on this one. A full swedish is great in its own right, but you start to relax and then 30min. later its time to turn over, which can be annoying if you're in a deep state.

Are there any of there out there that do this ? and any advice appreciated.

Thanks
 
An hour shoulders and back is no problem at all. I do this a lot and I actually prefer it to giving a full swedish (saves my back, had problems since a child).

This is my routine: 1/2 hour on each position.

Supine - decollette routine . Really taking time to work into the trapezius L&R then pay attention to the capitis and sterno muscles and I then work the top of the head too to help relieve tension if I have time.

Turn client to prone position and do your 1/2 hour back routine. I don't worry about turning a client, that's part of an hour massage IMO.

I find this routine is what my clients prefer rather than legs or arms. It allows me to work the upper body from two different angles, keeps the work in the area of need and gets me off my feet for 1/2 hour ( i sit at the end of the couch whilst they are in the supine position). You will be surprised how quickly you will run out of time especially when you are working trigger points etc.

Rx
 
Hiya Tracy
I can understand where your coming from. I have a client who books for a 2 hour massage and I really struggle with it because he doesnt like his feet, neck, face or arms massaged, so basically I'm left with only his back stomach front & back of legs to do. It's difficult to spread it out even using much slower movements.
I love doing the back so personally I wouldnt have a problem doing that area for an hour as I tend to do at least 35 mins there anyway. My suggestion is to look through some of your massage books and incorporate some of their movements which you dont already use.
If you have any trouble with this and you have MSN We could chat on there and I will talk you through some of my movements.

Tracy x
 
Hiya,
when someone books in for a massage I always offer them a choice of an extended back massage or a full body - most opt for the back.
I only massage the back, I don't turn them over at all. So client lying on tummy and:
start with some gently pressing over back through towel (hands free technique).
apply oil.
figure of 8's approx 6-8 times.
1/4 back and do window cleaning, back and forth and wringing.
then hands free over trapezius and lower back.
stand at clients head and knuckle into trapezius.
stand to side and wring shoulder, spend time working out tension in shoulder, neck, trapezius.
neck work. could go into a little bit of scalp work too.
stand at head, figure of 8's incorporating tops of arms.
go to lower back and wring over lower back, knuckle around sacrum
stand centre, and stretch muscles in various patterns.
spinal work.
figs 8
slide down back decreasing pressure.
cover with towel and healing movements by sliding hands down full length of body.

this takes care of 55 minutes no sweat.

I understand that some of the movements are advanced, but if you enrol on a 1 day hands-free course, it will give you more ideas.
 
Hi
thanks for all the replies!

Cirrus - your massage sounds bliss, I need to sort my back out first before I can attempt a back massage for an hour! Really interesting to read about the techniques that you do.

Tracy - I might even have a look on the internet, sure there is something on YouTube so that I can incorporate extra movements into the routine.

Daisychain - handsfree sounds interesting, however I live in Grimsby, which is at the end of the world and no courses run in this area. Have never heard of figure of 8 and window cleaning, but sounds common sense, so may give it a go on the hubby.

Actually the hubby make be in some luck this weekend when I use him as a guinea pig - will need to get all the sequences spot on!
 
Hi Daisy

Your routine is astoundingly similar to mine...and I made it up from a variety of courses I did.

Patchouli
 
he! he! so I'm not mental then!!! Its just what I've borrowed from various treatments and it suits me. Glad that it works for someone else too.
 
Hey Daisy
Thats a great idea for a new thread!! More of us should write down what our back routines are so others can learn from them or incorporate a movement which they dont already use.

Isnt it funny some of the names we come up with to describe some of our techniques lol.

Innerpeace x
 
I agree with Inner peace, it would be good idea to put on a additional catergory to learn other back routines.
 
well I shall start it. I'll copy my routine and then you can all follow suit.

but, you have to find me........
 
Hi Daisy

Your window cleaning technique- is this similar to ironing? I use reinforced ironing on the back. With the figure of 8, do you just use one hand? and the whole palm of the hand sweeping up or down the back?

Thanks
 
yes pemba, the window cleaning is re-inforced ironing, ie one hand on top of the other.

fig of 8 both hands follow the contours of the body.

whole palm then fingertips lightly sweep down full length of back. I start off firm and then gradually decrease the pressure until its just fingertips lightly teasing the back.
 
Hi daisy

I've tried a routine however only lasted 30 min, I think this was due to me doing it on the floor, so my movements were not continuous and flowing so will have to bring out the couch next time.

What kind of work do you do on the spine. I presume thumb friction, kneading etc.,

I think really I need to go for an hour long back massage myself to get some ideas!
 
hiya pemba,

I can do about 4 things around the spine. presses down one side then the next.
press and thumb slide (bottom thumb slides down the side of the spine about an inch then the top thumb follows.
fingertip circles (got this from baby massage) all 8 fingertips circle 4-6 times then move down to next position.

or start at the base of the spine, thumbs slide up the side of the spine about 3 inches, then place palms down and slide back to starting position, repeat action but go up 6 inches then slide back down, repeat this inching up the back until you achieve a full slide up the back and full sweep back down.
 
alternatively,
you could do a 35 minute back massage, get the client to turn over and massage the neck and shoulders, decolletage area and scalp for last 15 minutes.
 
Thanks daisy, you've been of a great help to me.

I will incorporate those strokes into the routine.

Just looking at my massage books for some more inspiration.

Thanks to you all - extremely grateful
 
I am really pleased. I have just finished doing my back massage routine on my husband tonight and it took 50 minutes. He did not appear to have any knots (as confirmed by himself) by I still took time to work on the tension spots. I also worked very slowly thinking about the movements and the effects the muscles were getting.

I incorporated the massage movements I had learned from college, plus tips from all of you which worked beautifully.

Daisy, I love the figure of 8 technique, its just so delicate, my hands felt like they were gliding on the skin (sounds a bit like ice-skating lol!)

Therefore my back massage routine is now 55 minutes!

Yay to you all!
 
yay to you!!! well done you!

I think performing the massage at different tempos is important, starting off at a moderate pace, slowing it down for parts, spending time on tensions points, and then going for the hypnotic part and slowing it down.

in college we have to perform to a certain time and it puts pressure on you to move on.
a 55 minute back massage gives you permission to slow it down. put yourself in the clients place and how would you like a massage? slow, meticulous and unhurried, or fast tempo, short movements?

I have an elderly client that can't lie down on the massage couch, she insists on sitting upright and I can only get to the shoulders and neck. I've asked if she would like to shorten the time to 25 minutes but she insists on a 55 minute neck and shoulder massage every 4 weeks. That sure takes some inventive moves!!!! LOL
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  30. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  31. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  32. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, young petite girl Amanda 20 years old, Sasha, Candy, Ocean, Yuki, Grace, @6262 Hwy7 until #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  33. laluna1857:
    Nu spring spa @ ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹sexy hot Viennese โค๏ธSpanish girls ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘working at Markham ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham close Costco โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHERRY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs
  35. Reen:
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  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rita๐ŸฅฐA brand new girl from Northeast China of Russian descent has just arrived, a young sexy beauty with smooth white skin, natural 32C breasts with big juicy nipples and fantastic tight little bum bum waiting to be kissed and spa
  37. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 3 young Asian girl in Tuesday
  38. lotushubspa:
    Hello, dear customers, today Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13 and provides female masseuses for customers. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธTaiwan, China and South Korea have Anna.๐Ÿ’‹Cici๐Ÿ’‹Jissica๐Ÿ’‹ to provide customers with first-class service attitude and a large number of beauties๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ9052375885 or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคช
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna joined. She can provide very good massage and sexy touch. She knows how to take instruction and please a man๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ New girl Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜ can provide deep Thai massage. Earlobe kiss๐Ÿ’‹She looks like an ordinary girl but has a round and beautiful ass. The hot body slide is her unique asset to attract men๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œCome see her today. Feel free to walk in or make an appointment at any time.
  40. SL West:
    Shangri-la Spa, the place for luxury Asian massages in GTA. ๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. 9 gorgeous girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea โ€”Coco, Cindy, Cici, Yui, Lulu, Amber, Kelly, Anita, Evaโ€” ready to spoil you silly. ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจ Thanksgiving special on now! ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Dial 647-578-8169โ˜Ž. Feel like 10 million bucks! ๐Ÿ’ฐโœจ Just swing by 160 East Beaver, Unit 12, Richmond Hill. Let the good times roll! ๐Ÿ™Œ
  41. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA & LUISA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. LUISA is a young,pretty, and slim Spanish senorita with slight curves and a hot hot hot attittude. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you
  42. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  43. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CICI is a young, slim & beautiful Chinese gem, petite 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs with firm but soft C Cups & the absolute best of services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธIsabella โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Linda She is Vietnamese Very Spicy Sexy Girl Beautiful Face With Exotic Eyebrow Shape Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  50. See You Health Center:
    Natalie She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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