Arbone Massage Cream?

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Does anyone use this?

I was speaking with an arbone consultant, and she raved about the massage cream, especially it being all natural. She gave me a tube to test out, I put a drop on the back of my hand, rubbed it in, I was dying as I drove home... I wanted to wash it off soooooo badly!!! My hand and eyes were burning from the Menthol. She mentioned using gloves while applying it, I can see why!!!
 
Arbone Massage Cream?

Pandoras_Gift said:
She mentioned using gloves while applying it, I can see why!!!

Not to sound glib here.....but why would anyone use a massage cream that you had to use gloves to apply it?? I can't imagine putting anything on my client's skin that I wouldn't want on mine.

I'll put this brand on my list of "not to buy"

Angie
 


It didn't dawn on me until after about her mentioning the gloves... and I agree, I wouldn't want it on my clients skin if I don't want it on mine.

Arbone products are supposed to be 100% natural, and I remember a MT pushing it at a seminar that I went to... but I won't use it, at least this one!
 


I've been wary of things touted as "all-natural" ever since I figured out that arsenic is naturally present in small amounts most everywhere, among countless other poisons, toxins and what have you. :smt120 it doesn't mean it's good for you, or that it won't irritate you as an individual.

My good friend is an arbonne consultant & she's tried to get me to use arbonne's relaxing massage oil on clients. The ingredients don't look too bad, but anything with a strong scent - whether i find it appealing or not - is something I stay away from for the sake of clients' individual sensitivities. To the company's credit, however, I have used 7-day samples of their Intelligence face care line and was happy with how my skin turned out, though compared to how I usually treat my face, I bet even a strict ice-cream face-washing regimen would have worked wonders :roll:

anyways.

Weird that as a consultant, it wouldn't have struck her as odd that a massage cream of all things would need to be applied with gloves?! wonder how she would have answered if questioned as to why the gloves were needed..
 


Do some more research on the arbonne products. You will find out some interesting things. Like the fact that they are not as natural as they claim to be. I too have had several consultants in the last month try to push several pieces of the arbonne line on me. Things from herbal supplements to face cleansers and massage creams. I have a strange feeling that their bottom line must be down if their representatives are having to push so hard right now to get folks to buy the products.

Think I will stick to my trusty jojoba oils, and nutri-naturals creams.
 


I was given a bottle of the massage oil, and liked it. Way too expensive to use/buy, though.

I've had different MLM companies try to get me to use their "warming oil" which is primarily glycerine, which was very sticky!
 


Several months back an Arbonne rep tried to push me to carry the products in my shop. She left a variety of freebies for me to try out. The oil stained my sheets & the smell was a bit overpowering. When I told her I was not intrested, she then tried to get me to become a rep, apparently she got commission for signing on new people. I was SO not impressed with her sales pitch, as it all boiled down to a pyramid sales scheme. I didnt like the products. To top it off, HER supervisor called me to set up an appointment for a massage, but no-showed on me when she realised I would not stock their products.
 


swarren07 said:
Do some more research on the arbonne products. You will find out some interesting things. Like the fact that they are not as natural as they claim to be. I too have had several consultants in the last month try to push several pieces of the arbonne line on me. Things from herbal supplements to face cleansers and massage creams. I have a strange feeling that their bottom line must be down if their representatives are having to push so hard right now to get folks to buy the products.

what is it with the arbonne reps? i have had the most pushy women trying to make me sell these products for them.. i've learned a very valuable lesson though: with the most pushy, i tried to be very nice and very clear with "not now, maybe later..." which she took to mean she could keep calling and emailing and trying to stop by. i finally went with a more direct approach (i hate confrontation and go into avoidance mode sometimes) and emailed her and told her that i have decided her product is not right for my practice. i think that's finally stopped her. but it seems that these reps are being really forward here in our town, which is not used to that method of selling.
 


I knew a lady whoa was a rep and very nice. No problems with pushy-ness, and dropped off the massage oil, a bottle of salt scrub and a bottle of bath salts. I have tried all on myself and two other people (friend/family). I also decided the products were not for me. The smells are too overpowering.
 


sjidoulamt said:
Arbonne is the new Amway. Beware...

This is so not true. And unfair.

ANY person, regardless of what they are "selling" can be pushy, rude, dishonest or behave in any number of unethical ways. INCLUDING massage therapists. :roll:

I'm a PT Assistant, an LMT and a Reiki Master, AND I'm an Arbonne consultant. I use the products I like in my practice and have never had anyone complain. I don't use the Arbonne massage oil because I agree it is too expensive to use professionally and have always blended my own oils with essential oils.

The muscle rub mentioned above is like a "deep heat" or "icy hot" type of product, NOT a massage cream you would use for general purposes. It is too strong for me, I don't like the heavy scent and it does burn my hands. I much prefer Sombra and use that in my practice.

Generally speaking, some products out there are too strong, some don't have the right glide, some have artificial fragrances or ingredients and they are marketed directly to massage therapists. So beware of "Acme Massage Company", because they try to suck you in and sell you stuff, and some of their stuff will burn your eyes or make your clients have asthma attacks because of the artificial fragrances, or make their skin break out because they use petroleum products. :?

Please people, don't paint everyone with the same brush. Those people who use and like Arbonne, or use it as an extra stream of income (because the product sells itself IME) are not evil to begin with. Some people just "drink the Kool-Aide" if they end up on an unethical team.
 


I worked in a shop with a girl who sells Arbonne, and she's never been pushy, but she sells a good bit of product. I never tried any of their massage products, but I absolutely love the powder base makeup I bought from her. I have very sensitive skin, and every other makeup I've tried makes me itch after a couple hours and get zits the next day. AND most of them turn orange after a few hours. No telling how much money I've spent on makeup just to throw it away. The Arbonne stuff is pretty expensive, but it stays the same color all day, doesn't make me itch, and doesn't break me out. I know I sound like a commercial, and I don't wear makeup often, but after almost 40 years of having to let my bare face hang out, it's nice to be able to wear it for special occasions. So don't make the mistake of avoiding good people or good products just because of one hard sell rep. You might miss something great.
 


Most of the Arbonne sellers are VERY pushy.
This is how they train 'em!
They especially will go after you if you are an esthetician or massage therapist.

They are very much an "Amway".

The products are (IMO) just awful for the most part.
They claim that they are all "natural" but the truth is far from that....especially with the added fragrances. blech :irked:

I am also an esthetician and the people that I see with the worst skin use:
-Arbonne
-Mary Kay
-Clinique

oh and Dial soap! LOL

I can only go by what I SEE under the Mag Lamp...and it isn't pretty!
 


squash_blsm said:
I am also an esthetician and the people that I see with the worst skin use:
-Arbonne
-Mary Kay
-Clinique

oh and Dial soap! LOL

1st of all, I'd never use soap on my face and am just surprised by people (especially women....not to be sexist but we're usually the ones worrying about our skin care) who do.

But I am surprised by the fact that Clinique made your list. I don't normally use it but was given a free jar of their Moisture Surge lotion and was impressed with the way it made my skin feel. Should I not use it? I've used Alba's Sea Plus Renewal cream for years and have always like it.

Angie
 


I know! I was so surprised!
I don't have a clue as to why a lot of my "bad skin" people are clinique users. However, most of them are the mature over 40 type. I suspect it has less to do with the product than the inappropriate product.
What they do have in common is the use of the toners and the moisturizer -the yellow one, and their cleansing bar.
The newer clinique products DO seem to be milder and have more active ingredients. So - read the ingredients and know what you are using and why and you should be just fine.
FWIW - the younger ones seem to do just fine on clinique.
As for Mary Kay and Arbonne - I just meant the skin care products NOT the makeup.

moogie said:
squash_blsm said:
I am also an esthetician and the people that I see with the worst skin use:
-Arbonne
-Mary Kay
-Clinique

oh and Dial soap! LOL

1st of all, I'd never use soap on my face and am just surprised by people (especially women....not to be sexist but we're usually the ones worrying about our skin care) who do.

But I am surprised by the fact that Clinique made your list. I don't normally use it but was given a free jar of their Moisture Surge lotion and was impressed with the way it made my skin feel. Should I not use it? I've used Alba's Sea Plus Renewal cream for years and have always like it.

Angie
 


squash_blsm said:
most of them are the mature over 40 type.

:yikes:

FWIW - the younger ones seem to do just fine on clinique.

Ok the problem here is that I'm firmly in the over 40 group!! When I was "young" I couldn't afford Clinque.

:smt044

There's just no winning for me!!


Angie
 


I always consult the EWG Cosmetics Safety Database before trying a new skincare or bodycare product. Here's what they say about Arbonne
Ingredients used by this brand:
yes Cancer
yes Developmental/reproductive toxicity
yes Violations, restrictions & warnings
yes Allergies/immunotoxicity
yes Other concerns for ingredients used by this brand:
Neurotoxicity, Endocrine disruption, Persistence and bioaccumulation, Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive), Multiple, additive exposure sources, Irritation (skin, eyes, or lungs), Enhanced skin absorption, Contamination concerns, Occupational hazards, Biochemical or cellular level changes
:shock:

I put Origins and Aveda in similar categories. From the outside the product looks really great - all-natural and everything - but from the inside the ingredients are really harmful in a lot of the products.
 


I used to use Arbonne's Night creme on my face because I had such dry sensitive skin. It was so very expensive for such a small amount of product, 1oz. I actually returned it once because it had such a large are bubble there was hardly any product in it. My skin was so sensitive to most products that I had to keep using it sparingly even though it was so expensive.

The consultant had told me about the high quality ingredients and I trusted that it was so great. When I really looked at the label, I felt so betrayed that I had been putting this stuff on my face every day and it had Parabens in it. Research shows parabens showing up in breast cancer tumors.

Soon after I switched to Lemongrass and used their body creme on my face, I've had great results and it's like $16 for 4oz instead of $80 for 1oz.
And it works better it's improved my skin that would normally be read irritated and flaky and the ingredients, well there's only 4 ingredients if you get the unscented version and 5 if you get the original.

Body Creme
Aloe Vera Gel, jojoba oil, Almond Oil, evening primrose oil and fragrance unless you get the unscented.

I guess I went a little on a tangent there. I don't usually use the body creme in massage, unless i'm doing char massage and just massaging hands. I use the Chocolate Body Butter for massage that's about 90% shea butter and that's very nice also.

I'm also not a therapist who enjoys icy hot type lotions that burn my hands, even biofreeze drives me crazy if it's on my hands
 
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    🌺🌺Weclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to try☎️416-5000-800 🍷🍷
  38. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco😘- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  41. ASPA:
    𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5’3” & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    🫦 Angela & Noor are here Today! 📞📲 (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. 💋 They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime 🚶‍♀️🚶➡️ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese, Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30’s open mind and young sweet Mia 25’s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦 Nayla & Vivian are in today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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