11 weeks post discectomy and still in pain HELP!

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I haven't been told a great deal about what I've had done although the specialist said he had completely removed dics L4 & L5. I am only 31 but have had lower back problems with sciatica since I was 19.
I hadn't elected to have this operation but had collapsed in severe pain with numbness from my waist down and an inability to pee! I had been in a lot of pain for a few weeks beforehand and I knew from 5 years ago when I had experienced a prolapsed disc what exactly I had done but this pain was far more excruciating.
Any way to cut a long story short, at this moment in time I am almost 11 weeks post-op and even though I do not have any lower back pain I havestill got numbness in my buttocks, down the back of my legs and in my feet through to mytoes and with that comes nerve pain which includes; burning sensations, tingling, shooting pains, constant pins and needles type feelings (but 100x stronger) and on a scale of 1-10 my pain is never any lower than a 4.
This amount of pain and nimbness is really starting to get me down and I don't feel as though physicians give me any straight answers.
I am having PT but it doesn't seem to be helping. I am able towalk, stand and sit but for only 5-10 mins max, I'mtrying out a TENS unit but that's not doing anything either.
I was told about a new drug on the market licensed for use on nerve pain - Cymbalta. Can anyone tell me if they've used it or heard of it? I am conventional pain relief at the moment:- cocodamol, voltarol and amitriptyline but they cause constipation and gut ache.
So if there is anyone out there that can tell me how long this will last or have any comments about pain relief you have had success with or just to let me know of your experiences or anything else that you think might help PLEASE, PLEASE let me know.

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
 
Hi There. I suffered the same thing as yourself in December 2003. I am now able to walk although I use a leg brace as I have dropped foot and also use a crutch for support. I have made a good recovery on my left side but still have a lot of numbness on my right leg, thighs, buttocks and saddle area and suffer with bowel problems.

With regards to the nerve pain I have found that taking both amitrriptyline and gababentin helps a great deal but conventional pain relief does not touch the pain.

The numbness can apparently vary from patient to patient and depends on how damaged the nerves were during compression and how long they were compressed for. I have been advised by the specialist that this is probably as good as it is going to get for me. I just try to look forward and focus on the things that I can do and not what I used to be able to do. I thank my lucky stars that I can walk as it could have been a lot worse.
 
Hi -
In my experience working as ahospital pharmacistas part of the acute pain team, if you are after conventional western medicine, I would be more inclined to go along the route of Amitriptylline 10-25mg at night if you find that nerve pain "buring, stinging, tingling, pins & needles" is keeping you awake at night and Gaapentin 300-600mg three times a day rather than trying Cymbalta (which is NOT licensed for this type of pain , although is licensed for DIABETIC peripheral neuropathic pain) for these symptoms during the day. Additionally, whilst you may perceive that paracetamol is not helping, I would advise that you take this on a regular basis.

As a complementary/alternative therapist, I would also say that this is not the complete answer, and that you also need to address the underlying emotional feelings that go along with the pain.

Questions -Since the pain started when you were 19,was there something emotionally effecting you 1-2 years prior to this - some major emotional event? What was the trigger? Is there any emotion that leaves you feeling "numb"?

I have found that when you deal with these issues, then the pain usually just goes away, as it is not needed anymore. I would recommend that either Time Line Therapy TM or that EFT should help.
 
Many thanks to you both for your interest in me and all your help and info.
 
Hi SJB

Picking up maceuk's comment about addressing the underlying emotional issues, I am about to have my first session of SHEN this week... for my recovering back problem. Mine is of a lower grade (and different type) than yours, though when it was at its worst it was horrendously painful. If you are interested I'll PM you with how it goes, so that perhaps you could decide if it, or something similar, could be useful to you?

N x
 
I had my second L4-L5 microdiscectomy on 7/10 (1st one of 7/25/05). I began having pain in April, progressed to severe back spasms in May. MRI showed nothing. Then in June radiating pain into my L leg, footdrop and numbness. My doc was out of town and I was scheduled for a LESI at that time so I had that done (it was so painful!) with no help. When he came back I let him know about the neurological changes so he scheduled a CT/mylegram which showed the herniation. Surgery showed 3 big chunks of disc pressing on the sciatica.
I'm having PT 3X/wk and walk 2-3 miles every day I don't do PT. But I still have numbness/weakness/burning in my leg. I have to take a Percocet 10mg and Soma every night because when I get burning and tingling starting in the afternoon and by night it prevents me from resting. My doc said not to worry about the meds - not uncommon to need for some time. He said having a repeat surgery is always more difficult to bounce back from and more painful.
I'm an ER nurse so I'm taking 8 wks off from work. I still also have sciatica pain.
I'm so fearful of re-herniation. Doc has told me that if I reherniate, he'll have to do a fusion. That is my greatest fear. I'm only 51 and physically active - like to camp, canoe, etc. Plus I still have 14 yrs of work before even thinking about retiring.
I guess I'm just asking from reassurance from anyone who's been in this position.
Thanks for letting me vent!
 
I would advise seeking postural advice and developing core stability so that your muscles strengthen and relieve pressure on your joints.
Try a good Pilates practitioner/ Alexander Technique.
Sharon.
 
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    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  36. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY, NAYLA & PHOENIX 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธMel๐ŸŒธSophia โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautifu
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy๐Ÿ’• She is a Vietnamese With nice Sexy Slender Body, Curves and Sweet Melons ๐Ÿฅ‘ Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  44. See You Health Center:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Provides Excellent Service & Smoking Hot Body ๐Ÿฅ‘Lin๐Ÿ’•โ€จVery Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž 416-988-2950
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ nice girl Luna ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide,Lisa deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. *NEW Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a model like body, 5โ€™4โ€ with sweet D Cups, nice massage, incredible services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€"
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with 36DD open mind and Young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Selina with big buttocks 30โ€™s and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  49. eyano99:
    Aurora
  50. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 2 Asian girl later tonight
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